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No indication of notability... Little or no content. Basically a dictionary entry on a given / first name. North8000 (
talk) 13:29, 6 April 2020 (UTC)reply
Reviewed as a part of new article curation / review process.North8000 (
talk) 14:34, 6 April 2020 (UTC)reply
But the guideline for
set-index article specifically says that it is a group with something in common besides the name.North8000 (
talk) 14:38, 6 April 2020 (UTC)reply
This article is extremely similar to most of those in subcategories of
Category:Given names. In order to delete articles of this type, we would need a much broader consensus than in this discussion. buidhe 15:08, 6 April 2020 (UTC)reply
Keep. It's just a routine given name list, no less acceptable than a zillion others. It is not a set index, so those criteria do not apply.
Clarityfiend (
talk) 06:30, 7 April 2020 (UTC)reply
Keep: a standard given-name article.
PamD 08:34, 7 April 2020 (UTC)reply
Comment/question@
PamD:@
Buidhe:@
Clarityfiend: On the face of it, presence of an article on this topic seems to violate both
wp:not (not a dictionary) and
wp:notability. With the wp:setindex argument being set aside the two keep arguments seem to be:
it is common accepted practice to have individual articles on first/given names despite possibly not meeting wp:not and wp:notability.
It is a list article, albeit not identified as such. In this case a lists of people with the same first/name (which seems a pretty un-wikipedian broad criteria). Or, in this case, all on the list are people with Wikipedia articles.
Could somebody clarify/comment on this? Are you saying that accepted practice is, in the case of a first/given name a looser interpretation of
wp:not (not a dictionary) and
wp:notability than following them literally? Thanks. North8000 (
talk) 13:55, 7 April 2020 (UTC)reply
I personally find many of these empty given-name articles to be unnecessary, as few users will look for people just by their given name (and if they are, they show up in the search box anyway). It has been my understanding that names are automatically noteworthy like
WP:NGEO, but as you say, that's not really a part of any guidelines except maybe
WP:SETINDEX and it is very close to being
WP:NOTDIRECTORY. – Thjarkur(talk) 20:10, 8 April 2020 (UTC)reply
Keep - Although the rules are vague when it comes to name articles I've found name articles to be very useful for navigating Wikipedia, and i have referenced the name.(
MoonlightTulsi) (
talk) 19:23, 12 April 2020 (GMT)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
No indication of notability... Little or no content. Basically a dictionary entry on a given / first name. North8000 (
talk) 13:29, 6 April 2020 (UTC)reply
Reviewed as a part of new article curation / review process.North8000 (
talk) 14:34, 6 April 2020 (UTC)reply
But the guideline for
set-index article specifically says that it is a group with something in common besides the name.North8000 (
talk) 14:38, 6 April 2020 (UTC)reply
This article is extremely similar to most of those in subcategories of
Category:Given names. In order to delete articles of this type, we would need a much broader consensus than in this discussion. buidhe 15:08, 6 April 2020 (UTC)reply
Keep. It's just a routine given name list, no less acceptable than a zillion others. It is not a set index, so those criteria do not apply.
Clarityfiend (
talk) 06:30, 7 April 2020 (UTC)reply
Keep: a standard given-name article.
PamD 08:34, 7 April 2020 (UTC)reply
Comment/question@
PamD:@
Buidhe:@
Clarityfiend: On the face of it, presence of an article on this topic seems to violate both
wp:not (not a dictionary) and
wp:notability. With the wp:setindex argument being set aside the two keep arguments seem to be:
it is common accepted practice to have individual articles on first/given names despite possibly not meeting wp:not and wp:notability.
It is a list article, albeit not identified as such. In this case a lists of people with the same first/name (which seems a pretty un-wikipedian broad criteria). Or, in this case, all on the list are people with Wikipedia articles.
Could somebody clarify/comment on this? Are you saying that accepted practice is, in the case of a first/given name a looser interpretation of
wp:not (not a dictionary) and
wp:notability than following them literally? Thanks. North8000 (
talk) 13:55, 7 April 2020 (UTC)reply
I personally find many of these empty given-name articles to be unnecessary, as few users will look for people just by their given name (and if they are, they show up in the search box anyway). It has been my understanding that names are automatically noteworthy like
WP:NGEO, but as you say, that's not really a part of any guidelines except maybe
WP:SETINDEX and it is very close to being
WP:NOTDIRECTORY. – Thjarkur(talk) 20:10, 8 April 2020 (UTC)reply
Keep - Although the rules are vague when it comes to name articles I've found name articles to be very useful for navigating Wikipedia, and i have referenced the name.(
MoonlightTulsi) (
talk) 19:23, 12 April 2020 (GMT)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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