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The result was Merge to lists of Ariane launches. Except VA246, which was not tagged for AfD. Sandstein 09:38, 22 January 2022 (UTC)
Ariane flight VA240
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Not notable, per WP:EVENTCRIT. This also fails WP:GNG. All sources are primary. The rocket launch is a normal procedural launch, that does not have "enduring historical significance". I am also nominating the following related pages because they suffer from the reasons listed above:
- Ariane flight VA242 ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- Ariane flight VA243 ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- Ariane flight VA244 ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- Ariane flight VA246 ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- Ariane flight VA247 ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- Ariane flight VA248 ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- Ariane flight VA253 ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- Ariane flight VA254 ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- Ariane flight VA255 ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Lectrician2 ( talk) 03:36, 29 December 2021 (UTC)
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Ariane flight VA245 carried
BepiColombo so probably has more historical significance than the rest.
©Geni (
talk) 03:54, 29 December 2021 (UTC)
- Oh my bad, accidentally nominated it. I'll take it out. Lectrician2 ( talk) 04:05, 29 December 2021 (UTC)
- Comment These launches are covered in list form at Ariane_5#Launch_history. — Goszei ( talk) 09:20, 31 December 2021 (UTC)
- Keep, provided that sources must be added. Per
WP:EVENTCRIT: as mentionned above, some of the articles in the series have "enduring historical significance". Moreover, all of them have "widespread (national or international) impact and were very widely covered in diverse sources". As a consequence, they all meet the notability criteria. — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
Benrem (
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contribs) 14:16, 1 January 2022 (UTC)
- I'm not sure how any of these were "widely covered", in my WP:BEFORE, for all of these articles I saw small space blogs covering them, and not reliable sources. Any of the reporting for these articles also fails WP:DEPTH, as the coverage provided is not "in-depth" reporting. Can you please point me to a example where it fulfills this criteria, with sources? Lectrician2 ( talk) 16:24, 1 January 2022 (UTC)
- Redirect all to Ariane 5#Launch history, unless some additional sources turn up that convince me otherwise. As disclosure, I was musing about AfDing these on WP:DISCORD, which helped lead to this nomination, but I was just too lazy to do a full WP:BEFORE on all of them. Goszei's point pushes me into !voting, though. The launches being considered here all appear very routine, meaning that the only pieces of information that we ought to cover about them are number/date/payload/etc., and those are all covered, along with a few others, at the Ariane page. Preserving anything more than that would be WP:INDISCRIMINATE, so these articles fail WP:PAGEDECIDE (as well as likely other parts of the notability guideline, per nom). {{u| Sdkb}} talk 17:46, 1 January 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Natg 19 ( talk) 01:43, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
- Merge to the list of launches as suggested, this one in particular is non notable. Oaktree b ( talk) 02:28, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America 1000 10:07, 14 January 2022 (UTC)
- merge as explained bove. Separate articles aren't needed ``
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The result was Merge to lists of Ariane launches. Except VA246, which was not tagged for AfD. Sandstein 09:38, 22 January 2022 (UTC)
Ariane flight VA240
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Not notable, per WP:EVENTCRIT. This also fails WP:GNG. All sources are primary. The rocket launch is a normal procedural launch, that does not have "enduring historical significance". I am also nominating the following related pages because they suffer from the reasons listed above:
- Ariane flight VA242 ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- Ariane flight VA243 ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- Ariane flight VA244 ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- Ariane flight VA246 ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- Ariane flight VA247 ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- Ariane flight VA248 ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- Ariane flight VA253 ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- Ariane flight VA254 ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- Ariane flight VA255 ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Lectrician2 ( talk) 03:36, 29 December 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Events-related deletion discussions. Lectrician2 ( talk) 03:36, 29 December 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Science-related deletion discussions. Lectrician2 ( talk) 03:36, 29 December 2021 (UTC)
- comment
Ariane flight VA245 carried
BepiColombo so probably has more historical significance than the rest.
©Geni (
talk) 03:54, 29 December 2021 (UTC)
- Oh my bad, accidentally nominated it. I'll take it out. Lectrician2 ( talk) 04:05, 29 December 2021 (UTC)
- Comment These launches are covered in list form at Ariane_5#Launch_history. — Goszei ( talk) 09:20, 31 December 2021 (UTC)
- Keep, provided that sources must be added. Per
WP:EVENTCRIT: as mentionned above, some of the articles in the series have "enduring historical significance". Moreover, all of them have "widespread (national or international) impact and were very widely covered in diverse sources". As a consequence, they all meet the notability criteria. — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
Benrem (
talk •
contribs) 14:16, 1 January 2022 (UTC)
- I'm not sure how any of these were "widely covered", in my WP:BEFORE, for all of these articles I saw small space blogs covering them, and not reliable sources. Any of the reporting for these articles also fails WP:DEPTH, as the coverage provided is not "in-depth" reporting. Can you please point me to a example where it fulfills this criteria, with sources? Lectrician2 ( talk) 16:24, 1 January 2022 (UTC)
- Redirect all to Ariane 5#Launch history, unless some additional sources turn up that convince me otherwise. As disclosure, I was musing about AfDing these on WP:DISCORD, which helped lead to this nomination, but I was just too lazy to do a full WP:BEFORE on all of them. Goszei's point pushes me into !voting, though. The launches being considered here all appear very routine, meaning that the only pieces of information that we ought to cover about them are number/date/payload/etc., and those are all covered, along with a few others, at the Ariane page. Preserving anything more than that would be WP:INDISCRIMINATE, so these articles fail WP:PAGEDECIDE (as well as likely other parts of the notability guideline, per nom). {{u| Sdkb}} talk 17:46, 1 January 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Natg 19 ( talk) 01:43, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
- Merge to the list of launches as suggested, this one in particular is non notable. Oaktree b ( talk) 02:28, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America 1000 10:07, 14 January 2022 (UTC)
- merge as explained bove. Separate articles aren't needed ``
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.