The result was keep. In closing, I'd like to remind everyone that worries of synthesis is not a valid reason to call for an article's deletion, since we can always edit an article to remove irrelevant or unsourced sections. m.o.p 04:54, 11 December 2011 (UTC) reply
At a first glance this is an article about an Archdiocese of the Russian Orthodox Church but it actually seems to be a non-notable offshoot of the Russian True Orthodox Church, which is itself a smallish schismatic offshoot group. The organisation was apparently established (allegedly re-established) in 1994. There is no evidence of organisational continuity with, or affiliation to, the Russian Orthodox Church, which would confer notability. In fact, I see no evidence for the claimed historic Archdiocese going back to 1283 under this name. Notability can not be established by Googling the name in either English, Swedish or Russian (See links above). I would expect to see it in both Books and Scholar if it was notable. If the historic organisation claimed did exist, possibly under a different name, then it would seem to belong in Gothic Christianity. DanielRigal ( talk) 11:02, 6 November 2011 (UTC) reply
-- ThomasSutter ( talk) 07:30, 14 November 2011 (UTC)The Archdiocese of Goths is also known as the Metropolitanate of Gothia and Kaphas, and Kaphas have different spelling in all western languages (Kafa/Kafe/Kaphas a.s.o), with late medieval jurisdiction in the Principate of Theodoro - also known as Gothia. That this parish existed in the late 18th century is supported by the Ukaz of Catherine the Great, incorporating the diocese into the historical Russian Orthodox Church. Soon after the remaining Goths vanished. The 1994 organisation is not a continual entity from the 1779 Archdiocese and hasn't been claimed by me nor the 1994 organization. Ecclesiastical jurisdiction is something entirely different though, and the canonical church with apostolic succession and continual traditional existence can appoint bishops to vacant seats, that is dioceses which aren't abolished, whenever they want. In no Ecclesiastical verdict of the Russian Orthodox Church have the Archdiocese / Metropolitanate been abolished, only vacant and de facto evaporated. Regarding canonicity I cannot see why a reference to the 'official' Russian Orthodox Church (established by the Soviets in 1946) would matter, when the True Orthodox have apostolic succession unbroken to the pre-revolutionary Russian Orthodox Church, just as the now defunct Russian Orthodox Church Outside Russia. The subject of the Archdiocese is mostly unnoticed historically, which is not the same as non-existing, and because of the Soviet period it has been locked in the peculiar history of Eastern Europe. There's much research to be made, and new primary sources to be published. The Ukaz of Catherine the Great on gotark.org is actual proof of the existence of the Church of the Goths in post-Tatar Russian Crimea, for instance. If the issue is too vague for the English-speaking world, I suggest it should be merged with Gothic Christianity to counter-balance the historically vague and generally unsubstantiated Arianism of the historical Gothic peoples. The source links can also be deleted or edited for better perception. An almost identical article exist on Swedish Wikipedia. reply
The result was keep. In closing, I'd like to remind everyone that worries of synthesis is not a valid reason to call for an article's deletion, since we can always edit an article to remove irrelevant or unsourced sections. m.o.p 04:54, 11 December 2011 (UTC) reply
At a first glance this is an article about an Archdiocese of the Russian Orthodox Church but it actually seems to be a non-notable offshoot of the Russian True Orthodox Church, which is itself a smallish schismatic offshoot group. The organisation was apparently established (allegedly re-established) in 1994. There is no evidence of organisational continuity with, or affiliation to, the Russian Orthodox Church, which would confer notability. In fact, I see no evidence for the claimed historic Archdiocese going back to 1283 under this name. Notability can not be established by Googling the name in either English, Swedish or Russian (See links above). I would expect to see it in both Books and Scholar if it was notable. If the historic organisation claimed did exist, possibly under a different name, then it would seem to belong in Gothic Christianity. DanielRigal ( talk) 11:02, 6 November 2011 (UTC) reply
-- ThomasSutter ( talk) 07:30, 14 November 2011 (UTC)The Archdiocese of Goths is also known as the Metropolitanate of Gothia and Kaphas, and Kaphas have different spelling in all western languages (Kafa/Kafe/Kaphas a.s.o), with late medieval jurisdiction in the Principate of Theodoro - also known as Gothia. That this parish existed in the late 18th century is supported by the Ukaz of Catherine the Great, incorporating the diocese into the historical Russian Orthodox Church. Soon after the remaining Goths vanished. The 1994 organisation is not a continual entity from the 1779 Archdiocese and hasn't been claimed by me nor the 1994 organization. Ecclesiastical jurisdiction is something entirely different though, and the canonical church with apostolic succession and continual traditional existence can appoint bishops to vacant seats, that is dioceses which aren't abolished, whenever they want. In no Ecclesiastical verdict of the Russian Orthodox Church have the Archdiocese / Metropolitanate been abolished, only vacant and de facto evaporated. Regarding canonicity I cannot see why a reference to the 'official' Russian Orthodox Church (established by the Soviets in 1946) would matter, when the True Orthodox have apostolic succession unbroken to the pre-revolutionary Russian Orthodox Church, just as the now defunct Russian Orthodox Church Outside Russia. The subject of the Archdiocese is mostly unnoticed historically, which is not the same as non-existing, and because of the Soviet period it has been locked in the peculiar history of Eastern Europe. There's much research to be made, and new primary sources to be published. The Ukaz of Catherine the Great on gotark.org is actual proof of the existence of the Church of the Goths in post-Tatar Russian Crimea, for instance. If the issue is too vague for the English-speaking world, I suggest it should be merged with Gothic Christianity to counter-balance the historically vague and generally unsubstantiated Arianism of the historical Gothic peoples. The source links can also be deleted or edited for better perception. An almost identical article exist on Swedish Wikipedia. reply