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This Wikipedia article simply lacks notable content. Most junior highs are not deemed notable, and this junior high is no different. Much of the content could have been formatted better (see 'About the School' especially). Of course, this alone could be changed, but much of the content looks as though it were just taken from the school site. There are only four sources, and a lot of uncited information. I am not an exclusionist, and do not generally want to terminate articles on the rationale of notability, but I cannot see how this article is warranted.
HarryOtter (
talk) 20:54, 1 June 2017 (UTC)reply
Keep This school is a valued part of its local community, and it would be a shame to see it go. There are numerous articles on this site which may not have the citations on them to warrant notability, but this does not mean they are not notable; it simply means that they need to be "dressed up a bit." This article may be poorly made, but that means it should be improved rather than killed. Simply because the reliable sources and notable information do not lie on this corner of the internet does not necessarily mean that the topic matter is unsuitable for a Wikipedia article; rather, it means that these missing sources should be sought out. Perhaps it would be more appropriate to go through this process after it is clear that the topic matter is not notable, but currently, the faults lie mainly within the article. Only after a search for notability should Aptakisic be brought to the chopping block.
Mysterymanblue (
talk) 21:48, 1 June 2017 (UTC)reply
You vote,
Mysterymanblue looks more like 'I like it' rather than founded on our criteria for notability. I note that you are very new here.
Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (
talk) 08:26, 5 June 2017 (UTC)reply
That comment on the significance to the local community was less of an argument for keeping the article and more of a lament that it might go, though I have no direct ties to the school in any way, shape, or form. The real argument I pose is rooted in
Wikipedia:NEXIST rather than in any sort of sentimental connection to either the article or the school. I am not sure what exactly you are insinuating by noting the age of this account, about three years, but, I can assure you, my comments were both wholehearted and genuine.
Mysterymanblue (
talk) 17:08, 5 June 2017 (UTC)reply
There have been tags on this article for a while and it appears nobody has found anything more notable now. We cannot keep articles on Wikipedia in hopes that they will one day have sources and more content. Would you be open to a redirect to the district page and a section on the school?
HarryOtter (
talk) 22:09, 1 June 2017 (UTC)reply
Logistically speaking, it seems like augmenting the district page with the content from this article would cause it to be a bit lopsided, especially considering the lack of content on Wikipedia about the other educational institutions appertaining to the district.
Mysterymanblue (
talk) 17:08, 5 June 2017 (UTC)reply
Well more content could be added. I don't think that would be a big issue.
HarryOtter (
talk) 23:21, 5 June 2017 (UTC)reply
Merge sourced material to
Aptakisic-Tripp Community Consolidated School District 102: We have that article, which can have sections for each school. I'm not convinced that a 2-year school is separately notable from the 4-school district it's in. Every school "is a valued part of its local community"; that doesn't make it separately meet
Wikipedia:Notability. --
Closeapple (
talk) 02:32, 2 June 2017 (UTC)reply
Question: Should we add
Earl Pritchett School to this discussion also? It's a K-4 school in the same district. --
Closeapple (
talk) 02:36, 2 June 2017 (UTC)reply
Redirect to the school district as per standard accepted treatment for this kind of article. Closer: Redirects are blanked and not deleted. The {{R from school}} template should be added to the redirect page.
Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (
talk) 08:37, 2 June 2017 (UTC)reply
Redirect as we do not generally have articles on non diploma granting schools and I see no reason this should be an exception.
John from Idegon (
talk) 09:38, 6 June 2017 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
This Wikipedia article simply lacks notable content. Most junior highs are not deemed notable, and this junior high is no different. Much of the content could have been formatted better (see 'About the School' especially). Of course, this alone could be changed, but much of the content looks as though it were just taken from the school site. There are only four sources, and a lot of uncited information. I am not an exclusionist, and do not generally want to terminate articles on the rationale of notability, but I cannot see how this article is warranted.
HarryOtter (
talk) 20:54, 1 June 2017 (UTC)reply
Keep This school is a valued part of its local community, and it would be a shame to see it go. There are numerous articles on this site which may not have the citations on them to warrant notability, but this does not mean they are not notable; it simply means that they need to be "dressed up a bit." This article may be poorly made, but that means it should be improved rather than killed. Simply because the reliable sources and notable information do not lie on this corner of the internet does not necessarily mean that the topic matter is unsuitable for a Wikipedia article; rather, it means that these missing sources should be sought out. Perhaps it would be more appropriate to go through this process after it is clear that the topic matter is not notable, but currently, the faults lie mainly within the article. Only after a search for notability should Aptakisic be brought to the chopping block.
Mysterymanblue (
talk) 21:48, 1 June 2017 (UTC)reply
You vote,
Mysterymanblue looks more like 'I like it' rather than founded on our criteria for notability. I note that you are very new here.
Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (
talk) 08:26, 5 June 2017 (UTC)reply
That comment on the significance to the local community was less of an argument for keeping the article and more of a lament that it might go, though I have no direct ties to the school in any way, shape, or form. The real argument I pose is rooted in
Wikipedia:NEXIST rather than in any sort of sentimental connection to either the article or the school. I am not sure what exactly you are insinuating by noting the age of this account, about three years, but, I can assure you, my comments were both wholehearted and genuine.
Mysterymanblue (
talk) 17:08, 5 June 2017 (UTC)reply
There have been tags on this article for a while and it appears nobody has found anything more notable now. We cannot keep articles on Wikipedia in hopes that they will one day have sources and more content. Would you be open to a redirect to the district page and a section on the school?
HarryOtter (
talk) 22:09, 1 June 2017 (UTC)reply
Logistically speaking, it seems like augmenting the district page with the content from this article would cause it to be a bit lopsided, especially considering the lack of content on Wikipedia about the other educational institutions appertaining to the district.
Mysterymanblue (
talk) 17:08, 5 June 2017 (UTC)reply
Well more content could be added. I don't think that would be a big issue.
HarryOtter (
talk) 23:21, 5 June 2017 (UTC)reply
Merge sourced material to
Aptakisic-Tripp Community Consolidated School District 102: We have that article, which can have sections for each school. I'm not convinced that a 2-year school is separately notable from the 4-school district it's in. Every school "is a valued part of its local community"; that doesn't make it separately meet
Wikipedia:Notability. --
Closeapple (
talk) 02:32, 2 June 2017 (UTC)reply
Question: Should we add
Earl Pritchett School to this discussion also? It's a K-4 school in the same district. --
Closeapple (
talk) 02:36, 2 June 2017 (UTC)reply
Redirect to the school district as per standard accepted treatment for this kind of article. Closer: Redirects are blanked and not deleted. The {{R from school}} template should be added to the redirect page.
Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (
talk) 08:37, 2 June 2017 (UTC)reply
Redirect as we do not generally have articles on non diploma granting schools and I see no reason this should be an exception.
John from Idegon (
talk) 09:38, 6 June 2017 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.