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The result was delete. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 05:37, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
Apple Face Shield
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The issue of notability pops up during the RM for this article. I have to agree the basis of this article is a little weak. It talks about "Apple Face Shield" as if it were a product you can go to some curbside Apple Store and buy, but all the sources in the article simply discuss how Apple is churning out generic face shields to meet new demand. That's great, but not really encyclopedic. I guess I would say, the big issue is WP:NOTNEWS and WP:OR. You can twist anything into a "product" if you want, but this is hardly the new iPhone. -- Quiz shows 19:46, 1 May 2020 (UTC)
- Delete - I honestly can't tell if this was a joke article or not. Apple (and many other big and small companies) do produce fairly generic, non-branded facemasks on a temporary basis, a fact that warrants mention in one of the pages related to pandemic response... but not as a standalone article, and not based on Apple fan(atic)'s WP:OR which conceptualizes this as some sort of major new product release. <humor>I bet they'll be waiting in line for the second-generation Apple Face Shield SE to come out next year.</humor> -- Netoholic @ 20:08, 1 May 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of COVID-19-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 20:38, 1 May 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Companies-related deletion discussions. North America 1000 08:05, 2 May 2020 (UTC)
- Redirect to products section of Apple inc. It appears to be a legitimate product designed by apple to be unique among faceshields. Seems to have created a buzz online. I agree that there is not enough for an article, but this is information that wikipedia should provide somewhere. My suggestion is at the apple article. MistyGraceWhite ( talk) 10:07, 2 May 2020 (UTC)
- Keep. It has received significant coverage from reliable news sources, and that is what matters. feminist #WearAMask😷 13:50, 2 May 2020 (UTC)
- Keep or redirect same as above. CrazyBoy826 ( talk) 17:00, 2 May 2020 (UTC)
- Delete: does not meet WP:NPRODUCT. Sources are week and the only claim to notability is that it's a generic face shield made by Apple. Notability is not inherited. -- K.e.coffman ( talk) 17:17, 2 May 2020 (UTC)
- Delete products like this are being made globally, there's nothing here that's unique. Many other large companies have shifted to mask production. ɱ (talk) 16:37, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
- Delete , just like the overpriced "Apple stand" , it's not that notable rather than being a joke. flixwito ^(•‿•)^ 01:33, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
- Delete for now. We can revisit notability after months if needed. desmay ( talk) 14:32, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:NOTINHERITED, just because Apple made it, that doesn't make it notable. Possibly worth a sentence or two in an Apple products article, but no more. Joseph 2302 ( talk) 16:48, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
- Delete there is no branded product called "Apple Face Shield". Axem Titanium ( talk) 18:04, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
- Delete Not currently being sold to the public and right now is not notable. It could be mentioned in the Apple article or in a Apple products article as a product. I am open to revisiting the deletion if it is notable in a few months 🌸 1.Ayana 🌸 ( talk) 14:16, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
- 'Delete I agree there is no such branded product. At best this should be a single line in the Apple article. HighKing ++ 17:07, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
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The result was delete. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 05:37, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
Apple Face Shield
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The issue of notability pops up during the RM for this article. I have to agree the basis of this article is a little weak. It talks about "Apple Face Shield" as if it were a product you can go to some curbside Apple Store and buy, but all the sources in the article simply discuss how Apple is churning out generic face shields to meet new demand. That's great, but not really encyclopedic. I guess I would say, the big issue is WP:NOTNEWS and WP:OR. You can twist anything into a "product" if you want, but this is hardly the new iPhone. -- Quiz shows 19:46, 1 May 2020 (UTC)
- Delete - I honestly can't tell if this was a joke article or not. Apple (and many other big and small companies) do produce fairly generic, non-branded facemasks on a temporary basis, a fact that warrants mention in one of the pages related to pandemic response... but not as a standalone article, and not based on Apple fan(atic)'s WP:OR which conceptualizes this as some sort of major new product release. <humor>I bet they'll be waiting in line for the second-generation Apple Face Shield SE to come out next year.</humor> -- Netoholic @ 20:08, 1 May 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of COVID-19-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 20:38, 1 May 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Companies-related deletion discussions. North America 1000 08:05, 2 May 2020 (UTC)
- Redirect to products section of Apple inc. It appears to be a legitimate product designed by apple to be unique among faceshields. Seems to have created a buzz online. I agree that there is not enough for an article, but this is information that wikipedia should provide somewhere. My suggestion is at the apple article. MistyGraceWhite ( talk) 10:07, 2 May 2020 (UTC)
- Keep. It has received significant coverage from reliable news sources, and that is what matters. feminist #WearAMask😷 13:50, 2 May 2020 (UTC)
- Keep or redirect same as above. CrazyBoy826 ( talk) 17:00, 2 May 2020 (UTC)
- Delete: does not meet WP:NPRODUCT. Sources are week and the only claim to notability is that it's a generic face shield made by Apple. Notability is not inherited. -- K.e.coffman ( talk) 17:17, 2 May 2020 (UTC)
- Delete products like this are being made globally, there's nothing here that's unique. Many other large companies have shifted to mask production. ɱ (talk) 16:37, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
- Delete , just like the overpriced "Apple stand" , it's not that notable rather than being a joke. flixwito ^(•‿•)^ 01:33, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
- Delete for now. We can revisit notability after months if needed. desmay ( talk) 14:32, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:NOTINHERITED, just because Apple made it, that doesn't make it notable. Possibly worth a sentence or two in an Apple products article, but no more. Joseph 2302 ( talk) 16:48, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
- Delete there is no branded product called "Apple Face Shield". Axem Titanium ( talk) 18:04, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
- Delete Not currently being sold to the public and right now is not notable. It could be mentioned in the Apple article or in a Apple products article as a product. I am open to revisiting the deletion if it is notable in a few months 🌸 1.Ayana 🌸 ( talk) 14:16, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
- 'Delete I agree there is no such branded product. At best this should be a single line in the Apple article. HighKing ++ 17:07, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.