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This is the first recording of the original version of the musical.
Niggle1892 (
talk) 21:35, 18 September 2019 (UTC)reply
Delete. note that it also fails WP:NALBUM and WP:COPYVIO. The main bulk of the article consists of long paraphrases of critics reviews - these are certainly violations of copyright.
Smerus (
talk) 06:56, 19 September 2019 (UTC)reply
copyvio concerns can be removed, this has happened.
Coolabahapple (
talk) 23:43, 21 September 2019 (UTC)reply
Comment, although technically meeting no. 1 of
WP:NALBUM - "subject of multiple [ie. 2 or more], non-trivial, published works appearing in sources that are reliable, not self-published, and are independent from the musician or ensemble who created it." as article (now after possible copyvio being removed) lists reviews by Gramophone and Sound & Vision, past consensus amongst classical album wikieditors appears to require more.
Coolabahapple (
talk) 02:06, 22 September 2019 (UTC)reply
Strong Keep per
WP:NALBUM. The article's COPYVIO issue has now been addressed - brief quotes from reviews will be supplied in due course. The album is the first historically informed recording of the work and of fundamental importance in its discography. See Opera Now, April 1991, p. 45 for further discussion.
Niggle1892 (
talk) 16:00, 22 September 2019 (UTC)reply
Keep per criteria 1 in
WP:NALBUM. The uniqueness of this recording is discussed in context to the show and other recordings in the book Anything Goes: A History of American Musical Theatre By Ethan Mordden, OUP USA, 2013, pg 141, 307, and 312. The work was also reviewed in ''Fanfare, 1993, Volume 16, Issues 5-6, Page 415; Stereo Review, 1991, Volume 56, Page 53; Theater Week, 1991, Volume 3, Issues 21-29 - Page 42; and Musical America, 1990, Volume 110, Issue 2, Page 76.
4meter4 (
talk) 20:23, 22 September 2019 (UTC)reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 14:01, 25 September 2019 (UTC)reply
Comment See also Steven Suskin's The Sound of Broadway Music, 2011; Ethan Mordden's Sing For Your Supper, 2015, p. 65; ARSC Journal, Vol. 23, 1992, p. 166. The importance of McGlinn in the history of American musical theater is almost impossible to overstate.
Niggle1892 (
talk) 20:48, 26 September 2019 (UTC)reply
Keep, meets
WP:NALBUM with multiple reviews in article and listed above.
Coolabahapple (
talk) 05:38, 27 September 2019 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
This is the first recording of the original version of the musical.
Niggle1892 (
talk) 21:35, 18 September 2019 (UTC)reply
Delete. note that it also fails WP:NALBUM and WP:COPYVIO. The main bulk of the article consists of long paraphrases of critics reviews - these are certainly violations of copyright.
Smerus (
talk) 06:56, 19 September 2019 (UTC)reply
copyvio concerns can be removed, this has happened.
Coolabahapple (
talk) 23:43, 21 September 2019 (UTC)reply
Comment, although technically meeting no. 1 of
WP:NALBUM - "subject of multiple [ie. 2 or more], non-trivial, published works appearing in sources that are reliable, not self-published, and are independent from the musician or ensemble who created it." as article (now after possible copyvio being removed) lists reviews by Gramophone and Sound & Vision, past consensus amongst classical album wikieditors appears to require more.
Coolabahapple (
talk) 02:06, 22 September 2019 (UTC)reply
Strong Keep per
WP:NALBUM. The article's COPYVIO issue has now been addressed - brief quotes from reviews will be supplied in due course. The album is the first historically informed recording of the work and of fundamental importance in its discography. See Opera Now, April 1991, p. 45 for further discussion.
Niggle1892 (
talk) 16:00, 22 September 2019 (UTC)reply
Keep per criteria 1 in
WP:NALBUM. The uniqueness of this recording is discussed in context to the show and other recordings in the book Anything Goes: A History of American Musical Theatre By Ethan Mordden, OUP USA, 2013, pg 141, 307, and 312. The work was also reviewed in ''Fanfare, 1993, Volume 16, Issues 5-6, Page 415; Stereo Review, 1991, Volume 56, Page 53; Theater Week, 1991, Volume 3, Issues 21-29 - Page 42; and Musical America, 1990, Volume 110, Issue 2, Page 76.
4meter4 (
talk) 20:23, 22 September 2019 (UTC)reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 14:01, 25 September 2019 (UTC)reply
Comment See also Steven Suskin's The Sound of Broadway Music, 2011; Ethan Mordden's Sing For Your Supper, 2015, p. 65; ARSC Journal, Vol. 23, 1992, p. 166. The importance of McGlinn in the history of American musical theater is almost impossible to overstate.
Niggle1892 (
talk) 20:48, 26 September 2019 (UTC)reply
Keep, meets
WP:NALBUM with multiple reviews in article and listed above.
Coolabahapple (
talk) 05:38, 27 September 2019 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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