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The result was delete. Doczilla @SUPERHEROLOGIST 22:33, 9 May 2022 (UTC)
Antigone (journal)
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At first sight, this is a well-sourced article on a new journal. However, it's unusual that a new journal would receive so much attention that it meets WP:GNG basically from before it even has published a first issue (several articles have been published now), so I had a closer look at the sources. This was revealing. A number of references are clearly not independent (journal's own website, press releases). The other sources are, at best, in-passing mentions, some do not even mention the journal (current reference #6 to The Times Diary). In sum, this does not meet either WP:GNG or WP:NJournals and at best is a case of WP:TOOSOON. Hence: delete. Randykitty ( talk) 21:57, 2 May 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Academic journals-related deletion discussions. Randykitty ( talk) 21:57, 2 May 2022 (UTC)
- Delete per above as it does not seem to meet the notability guidelines. Sahaib ( talk) 16:53, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
- Delete, much WP:TOOSOON. Ari T. Benchaim ( talk) 17:13, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
- This online-only website runs articles (3 a week) rather than publishes issues, and may be better described as a magazine or educational website than an "(academic) journal". Perhaps it needs recategorizing?
- Could you expand on what you mean by "before it even has published a first issue" and "several articles have been published now"? Won't there have been 100+ articles published before this Wiki page was created?
- The article from the Times mentions the journal as follows: "The writer [Stephen Fry] twangs the cithara on behalf of antiquity in Antigone, a new online magazine that aims to dust down the Greeks and Romans and make them fresh."
- A Google search gives other mentions than those on the page, such as
- https://www.the-tls.co.uk/articles/wrong-but-romantic-blog-post-mary-beard/
- https://www.thedailybeast.com/ukraine-island-is-where-achilles-supposedly-went-mad-and-wiped-out-the-amazons
- https://www.dotyk.cz/magazin/poppaea-sabina-30000210.html
- https://thewire.in/history/awakening-indo-european-philology-to-bring-us-words-from-the-ghosts
- https://www.trinity.ox.ac.uk/news/imaginative-platonic-dialogue-partygate-wins-classics-writing-prize
- https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=eMVcEAAAQBAJ&pg=PA61
- https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=8B1YEAAAQBAJ&pg=PA172 Kuyaviana ( talk) 21:23, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
- Delete WP:TOOSOON -- Nanosci ( talk) 23:45, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Doczilla @SUPERHEROLOGIST 22:33, 9 May 2022 (UTC)
Antigone (journal)
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At first sight, this is a well-sourced article on a new journal. However, it's unusual that a new journal would receive so much attention that it meets WP:GNG basically from before it even has published a first issue (several articles have been published now), so I had a closer look at the sources. This was revealing. A number of references are clearly not independent (journal's own website, press releases). The other sources are, at best, in-passing mentions, some do not even mention the journal (current reference #6 to The Times Diary). In sum, this does not meet either WP:GNG or WP:NJournals and at best is a case of WP:TOOSOON. Hence: delete. Randykitty ( talk) 21:57, 2 May 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Academic journals-related deletion discussions. Randykitty ( talk) 21:57, 2 May 2022 (UTC)
- Delete per above as it does not seem to meet the notability guidelines. Sahaib ( talk) 16:53, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
- Delete, much WP:TOOSOON. Ari T. Benchaim ( talk) 17:13, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
- This online-only website runs articles (3 a week) rather than publishes issues, and may be better described as a magazine or educational website than an "(academic) journal". Perhaps it needs recategorizing?
- Could you expand on what you mean by "before it even has published a first issue" and "several articles have been published now"? Won't there have been 100+ articles published before this Wiki page was created?
- The article from the Times mentions the journal as follows: "The writer [Stephen Fry] twangs the cithara on behalf of antiquity in Antigone, a new online magazine that aims to dust down the Greeks and Romans and make them fresh."
- A Google search gives other mentions than those on the page, such as
- https://www.the-tls.co.uk/articles/wrong-but-romantic-blog-post-mary-beard/
- https://www.thedailybeast.com/ukraine-island-is-where-achilles-supposedly-went-mad-and-wiped-out-the-amazons
- https://www.dotyk.cz/magazin/poppaea-sabina-30000210.html
- https://thewire.in/history/awakening-indo-european-philology-to-bring-us-words-from-the-ghosts
- https://www.trinity.ox.ac.uk/news/imaginative-platonic-dialogue-partygate-wins-classics-writing-prize
- https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=eMVcEAAAQBAJ&pg=PA61
- https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=8B1YEAAAQBAJ&pg=PA172 Kuyaviana ( talk) 21:23, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
- Delete WP:TOOSOON -- Nanosci ( talk) 23:45, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
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