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The result was delete. ✗ plicit 23:42, 9 June 2023 (UTC)
Angela Besharah
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WP:BLP of an actress and director, not
properly referenced as passing notability criteria for actresses or directors. As always, the notability test for a creative professional in film, television or theatre is not automatically passed just by verifying that she and her work exist, and instead requires analytical coverage to be paid to her and her work in media to establish that they've been externally validated as significant by people without a vested interest in her career.
I've already removed 16 inadmissible footnotes to IMDb and Facebook or Instagram posts -- but even so, the article is still referenced mainly to bad sources that aren't support for notability at all, such as blogs, directory entries, the self-published production websites of shows or films she was in, the self-published websites of film festivals that films she was in were screened at, a Twitter tweet, and on and so forth.
And even the stuff that does come from real reliable source media still largely isn't supporting her notability either -- for example, there's a source which verifies that somebody else got an Emmy nomination for his work in a miniseries that Besharah had a supporting part in, which has nothing to do with Besharah; and there are sources verifying that other films or TV shows she was in exist, but fail to mention Besharah's name in conjunction with them; and there are very brief glancing namechecks that mention her name without being about her in any non-trivial sense.
Only one footnote in the entire article (#22, "Go-for-broke performances drive Sarah Burgess's Dry Powder") actually represents a reliable source writing about Besharah's work in any substantive fashion, but one source isn't enough all by itself -- and even on a
WP:BEFORE search for other sources, the most useful thing I found in
ProQuest is the same article.
Nothing here is "inherently" notable enough to exempt her from having to be the subject of more proper coverage and analysis about her and her work in real media than this.
Bearcat (
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16:47, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Actors and filmmakers, Theatre, and Canada. Bearcat ( talk) 16:47, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 23:22, 2 June 2023 (UTC)- Delete using simple mentions of this name in an article about another person, or using articles that are simply passing mentions of the individual, don't help notability. Sources I find are all trivial mentions.
Oaktree b (
talk)
23:58, 2 June 2023 (UTC)
- Delete just checked the sources, can agree with nom and others Karnataka ( talk) 17:32, 9 June 2023 (UTC)
- Delete using simple mentions of this name in an article about another person, or using articles that are simply passing mentions of the individual, don't help notability. Sources I find are all trivial mentions.
Oaktree b (
talk)
23:58, 2 June 2023 (UTC)
- Delete per nom fails WP:GNG and WP:NACTOR. Pharaoh of the Wizards ( talk) 18:39, 9 June 2023 (UTC)
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The result was delete. ✗ plicit 23:42, 9 June 2023 (UTC)
Angela Besharah
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- Angela Besharah ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log | edits since nomination)
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WP:BLP of an actress and director, not
properly referenced as passing notability criteria for actresses or directors. As always, the notability test for a creative professional in film, television or theatre is not automatically passed just by verifying that she and her work exist, and instead requires analytical coverage to be paid to her and her work in media to establish that they've been externally validated as significant by people without a vested interest in her career.
I've already removed 16 inadmissible footnotes to IMDb and Facebook or Instagram posts -- but even so, the article is still referenced mainly to bad sources that aren't support for notability at all, such as blogs, directory entries, the self-published production websites of shows or films she was in, the self-published websites of film festivals that films she was in were screened at, a Twitter tweet, and on and so forth.
And even the stuff that does come from real reliable source media still largely isn't supporting her notability either -- for example, there's a source which verifies that somebody else got an Emmy nomination for his work in a miniseries that Besharah had a supporting part in, which has nothing to do with Besharah; and there are sources verifying that other films or TV shows she was in exist, but fail to mention Besharah's name in conjunction with them; and there are very brief glancing namechecks that mention her name without being about her in any non-trivial sense.
Only one footnote in the entire article (#22, "Go-for-broke performances drive Sarah Burgess's Dry Powder") actually represents a reliable source writing about Besharah's work in any substantive fashion, but one source isn't enough all by itself -- and even on a
WP:BEFORE search for other sources, the most useful thing I found in
ProQuest is the same article.
Nothing here is "inherently" notable enough to exempt her from having to be the subject of more proper coverage and analysis about her and her work in real media than this.
Bearcat (
talk)
16:47, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Actors and filmmakers, Theatre, and Canada. Bearcat ( talk) 16:47, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 17:15, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 23:22, 2 June 2023 (UTC)- Delete using simple mentions of this name in an article about another person, or using articles that are simply passing mentions of the individual, don't help notability. Sources I find are all trivial mentions.
Oaktree b (
talk)
23:58, 2 June 2023 (UTC)
- Delete just checked the sources, can agree with nom and others Karnataka ( talk) 17:32, 9 June 2023 (UTC)
- Delete using simple mentions of this name in an article about another person, or using articles that are simply passing mentions of the individual, don't help notability. Sources I find are all trivial mentions.
Oaktree b (
talk)
23:58, 2 June 2023 (UTC)
- Delete per nom fails WP:GNG and WP:NACTOR. Pharaoh of the Wizards ( talk) 18:39, 9 June 2023 (UTC)
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