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The result was redirect to Gallatin County, Montana#Census-designated places. 78.26 ( spin me / revolutions) 14:54, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
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Former CDP with no current or past significance. Amsterdam, Montana and Churchill, Montana are separate communities (and CDPs) with their own histories, so there's no reason to have a combined article. – dlthewave ☎ 02:17, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
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- Delete - Being made a CDP is not a form of "legal recognition" as required under WP:GEOLAND #1 for presumed notability. Being e.g., incorporated would be. Anyway, as the nom states, this content is already hosted on other articles so there is no need for pointless duplication. FOARP ( talk) 08:30, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
- Delete and redirect to Gallatin County, Montana#Census-designated places. Agreeing with the points made above, just not the conclusion. Also please dewiki Amsterdam-Churchill, Montana at my redirect target after deletion. gidonb ( talk) 00:35, 15 November 2021 (UTC)
- Redirect to Gallatin County, Montana#Census-designated places per above. - The Gnome ( talk) 15:49, 15 November 2021 (UTC)
- Redirect to
Amsterdam, Montana. I do see 48 matches in a newspaper search. Let's look through them: a few false positives, but also
this, which seems to be a multi-page feature on the community (the second page
here and the third page
here). This is quite significant coverage, which I didn't really expect to find. There were a number of residents, as well as a church, a cemetery, et cetera. They formed a
sewer district in 1973-74, which was voted for by 120 electors. People
farmed potatoes there in 1985. People had
"fights over gravel pits" there in 2007. This seems like it was certainly a place, quite possibly still is, about which much could be written.
jp×
g
22:38, 15 November 2021 (UTC)
- I don't see anything there that can't go on the Amsterdam and/or Churchill articles. Yes, they are sister communities that are themselves notable, but I don't think we need a third page to say that (and we definitely don't need articles on sewer districts...). Reywas92 Talk 02:51, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
- It creates unnecessary rehashing of materials. Already did. That's what this nomination seeks to eliminate. This opinion, however, illustrates why delete and redirect are needed.
gidonb (
talk)
14:36, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
- @
Reywas92: @
Gidonb: I failed to notice that there were separate articles for the respective locales that this composite region is composed of. These sources can definitely just go in those articles; I'll change my !vote from "keep" to "redirect".
jp×
g
06:36, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
- @ JPxG: Thank you for reconsidering and letting us know! gidonb ( talk) 09:17, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
- @
Reywas92: @
Gidonb: I failed to notice that there were separate articles for the respective locales that this composite region is composed of. These sources can definitely just go in those articles; I'll change my !vote from "keep" to "redirect".
jp×
g
06:36, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
- It creates unnecessary rehashing of materials. Already did. That's what this nomination seeks to eliminate. This opinion, however, illustrates why delete and redirect are needed.
gidonb (
talk)
14:36, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
- Redirect to Gallatin County, Montana#Census-designated places. An obsolete CDP doesn't need its own article. I agree with Reywas92 that the sources provided by JPxG could go in the history sections of the Amsterdam, Montana and/or Churchill, Montana articles. Keeping all 3 would be an unnecessary fork. Qwaiiplayer ( talk) 13:23, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
- Delete Fails WP:GEOLAND. Avilich ( talk) 17:58, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
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The result was redirect to Gallatin County, Montana#Census-designated places. 78.26 ( spin me / revolutions) 14:54, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
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- Amsterdam-Churchill, Montana ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log)
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Former CDP with no current or past significance. Amsterdam, Montana and Churchill, Montana are separate communities (and CDPs) with their own histories, so there's no reason to have a combined article. – dlthewave ☎ 02:17, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions. – dlthewave ☎ 02:17, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Montana-related deletion discussions. – dlthewave ☎ 02:17, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
- Delete - Being made a CDP is not a form of "legal recognition" as required under WP:GEOLAND #1 for presumed notability. Being e.g., incorporated would be. Anyway, as the nom states, this content is already hosted on other articles so there is no need for pointless duplication. FOARP ( talk) 08:30, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
- Delete and redirect to Gallatin County, Montana#Census-designated places. Agreeing with the points made above, just not the conclusion. Also please dewiki Amsterdam-Churchill, Montana at my redirect target after deletion. gidonb ( talk) 00:35, 15 November 2021 (UTC)
- Redirect to Gallatin County, Montana#Census-designated places per above. - The Gnome ( talk) 15:49, 15 November 2021 (UTC)
- Redirect to
Amsterdam, Montana. I do see 48 matches in a newspaper search. Let's look through them: a few false positives, but also
this, which seems to be a multi-page feature on the community (the second page
here and the third page
here). This is quite significant coverage, which I didn't really expect to find. There were a number of residents, as well as a church, a cemetery, et cetera. They formed a
sewer district in 1973-74, which was voted for by 120 electors. People
farmed potatoes there in 1985. People had
"fights over gravel pits" there in 2007. This seems like it was certainly a place, quite possibly still is, about which much could be written.
jp×
g
22:38, 15 November 2021 (UTC)
- I don't see anything there that can't go on the Amsterdam and/or Churchill articles. Yes, they are sister communities that are themselves notable, but I don't think we need a third page to say that (and we definitely don't need articles on sewer districts...). Reywas92 Talk 02:51, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
- It creates unnecessary rehashing of materials. Already did. That's what this nomination seeks to eliminate. This opinion, however, illustrates why delete and redirect are needed.
gidonb (
talk)
14:36, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
- @
Reywas92: @
Gidonb: I failed to notice that there were separate articles for the respective locales that this composite region is composed of. These sources can definitely just go in those articles; I'll change my !vote from "keep" to "redirect".
jp×
g
06:36, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
- @ JPxG: Thank you for reconsidering and letting us know! gidonb ( talk) 09:17, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
- @
Reywas92: @
Gidonb: I failed to notice that there were separate articles for the respective locales that this composite region is composed of. These sources can definitely just go in those articles; I'll change my !vote from "keep" to "redirect".
jp×
g
06:36, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
- It creates unnecessary rehashing of materials. Already did. That's what this nomination seeks to eliminate. This opinion, however, illustrates why delete and redirect are needed.
gidonb (
talk)
14:36, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
- Redirect to Gallatin County, Montana#Census-designated places. An obsolete CDP doesn't need its own article. I agree with Reywas92 that the sources provided by JPxG could go in the history sections of the Amsterdam, Montana and/or Churchill, Montana articles. Keeping all 3 would be an unnecessary fork. Qwaiiplayer ( talk) 13:23, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
- Delete Fails WP:GEOLAND. Avilich ( talk) 17:58, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
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