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The result was keep. Daniel ( talk) 02:16, 18 July 2021 (UTC)
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WP:REDUNDANTFORK, all of the information is copied from either American Samoa national football team or American Samoa national football team results, albeit with a slightly different all-time record. A separate article with this title has previously been deleted as an uncontested WP:PROD because it failed WP:NOTSTATS. This version is a different article and was moved from American Samoa national football team all-time record. Stevie fae Scotland ( talk) 17:41, 28 June 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions. Shellwood ( talk) 19:07, 28 June 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Oceania-related deletion discussions. Shellwood ( talk) 19:07, 28 June 2021 (UTC)
- Keep - I know WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS but we have Category:National association football team records and statistics; this forms part of an established article type and is referenced. Might need improvement, sure, but I see no reason to delete this and leave the others. Giant Snowman 19:39, 28 June 2021 (UTC)
- I had considered merging as I don't think there is any issue with article size for the two parent articles (which wouldn't be the case for say Argentina or England who have payed over 1,000 matches) but the information was already there. I still wonder though if a merge/redirect would present a more optimal solution? Stevie fae Scotland ( talk) 09:54, 29 June 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 19:44, 28 June 2021 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Extraordinary Writ ( talk) 22:18, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Extraordinary Writ ( talk) 22:18, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
- Keep = Per GiantSnowman's comment above, this is an established category of article. Agree also that improvement is the correct response. Macosal ( talk) 05:03, 6 July 2021 (UTC)
- Keep per GiantSnowman's comment. I don't think this fails WP:NOTSTATS as that policy doesn't forbid all statistics pages, just "Excessive listings of unexplained statistics." This list does not appear to be excessive, nor is it unexplained as it provides some context as to where the stats are from and why they're important (documenting the results of a national football team like other pages in Category:National association football team records and statistics). Qwaiiplayer ( talk) 12:22, 16 July 2021 (UTC)
- Keep, improvement would be worthwhile, but it is nonetheless large enough to warrant being separate from the team's article. MrsSnoozyTurtle 00:53, 17 July 2021 (UTC)
- Keep per GiantSnowman's comment. Pharaoh of the Wizards ( talk) 01:10, 18 July 2021 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
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The result was keep. Daniel ( talk) 02:16, 18 July 2021 (UTC)
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- American Samoa national football team records and statistics ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log)
- (Find sources: Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)
WP:REDUNDANTFORK, all of the information is copied from either American Samoa national football team or American Samoa national football team results, albeit with a slightly different all-time record. A separate article with this title has previously been deleted as an uncontested WP:PROD because it failed WP:NOTSTATS. This version is a different article and was moved from American Samoa national football team all-time record. Stevie fae Scotland ( talk) 17:41, 28 June 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions. Shellwood ( talk) 19:07, 28 June 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Oceania-related deletion discussions. Shellwood ( talk) 19:07, 28 June 2021 (UTC)
- Keep - I know WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS but we have Category:National association football team records and statistics; this forms part of an established article type and is referenced. Might need improvement, sure, but I see no reason to delete this and leave the others. Giant Snowman 19:39, 28 June 2021 (UTC)
- I had considered merging as I don't think there is any issue with article size for the two parent articles (which wouldn't be the case for say Argentina or England who have payed over 1,000 matches) but the information was already there. I still wonder though if a merge/redirect would present a more optimal solution? Stevie fae Scotland ( talk) 09:54, 29 June 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 19:44, 28 June 2021 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Extraordinary Writ ( talk) 22:18, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Extraordinary Writ ( talk) 22:18, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
- Keep = Per GiantSnowman's comment above, this is an established category of article. Agree also that improvement is the correct response. Macosal ( talk) 05:03, 6 July 2021 (UTC)
- Keep per GiantSnowman's comment. I don't think this fails WP:NOTSTATS as that policy doesn't forbid all statistics pages, just "Excessive listings of unexplained statistics." This list does not appear to be excessive, nor is it unexplained as it provides some context as to where the stats are from and why they're important (documenting the results of a national football team like other pages in Category:National association football team records and statistics). Qwaiiplayer ( talk) 12:22, 16 July 2021 (UTC)
- Keep, improvement would be worthwhile, but it is nonetheless large enough to warrant being separate from the team's article. MrsSnoozyTurtle 00:53, 17 July 2021 (UTC)
- Keep per GiantSnowman's comment. Pharaoh of the Wizards ( talk) 01:10, 18 July 2021 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.