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The result was speedy delete. Speedy deleted ( G5) by Dougweller. ( non-admin closure) Jim Carter (from public cyber) 11:28, 7 September 2014 (UTC)
Allison Mackie
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Not quite enough coverage in the media to satisfy WP:GNG, and not quite enough significant roles to satisfy WP:ENT. One role takes the first step toward ENT and that is a stage appearance in Cyrano, a stripped-down version of the play Cyrano de Bergerac, as the leading lady Roxanne, which Mackie played opposite Frank Langella. (The play was poorly received.) This biography needs more such roles for it to avoid deletion. Binksternet ( talk) 02:06, 3 September 2014 (UTC)
- Keep - Enough mentions of actress in the right places. She's had enough prominent roles as well and in roles with all the right profile actors. Many many more than the thosands of articles about other actors on this website. BTW: This article is only in the early stages ( Boss Reality ( talk) 08:58, 4 September 2014 (UTC))
- Can you point to two or three of the "many many" sources which will save this article? The sources must be verifiable. Binksternet ( talk) 18:43, 5 September 2014 (UTC)
- Comment, I see that Binksternet User_Binksternet who nominated this one for deletion has also nominated the C. Courtney Joyner article for deletion. Strange !!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Boss Reality ( talk • contribs) 09:02, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
- Not so strange, actually. I have been looking at the articles you have created to make sure that they are notable enough for Wikipedia. Some are, some are not. Binksternet ( talk) 18:43, 5 September 2014 (UTC)
- Delete Fails WP:ENT. A number of brief mentions in minor roles, but no articles, books, or reviews that have in-depth or exclusive coverage of her as a subject. - LuckyLouie ( talk) 17:02, 5 September 2014 (UTC)
- Comment. The article has been expanded somewhat since it was nominated for deletion. Here are the new sources:
- http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1356&dat=19991120&id=SuFPAAAAIBAJ&sjid=qAgEAAAAIBAJ&pg=2055,2198988, Ocala Star-Banner - Nov 20, 1999, Page 30, "Monday, 9 p.m. on NBC Law & Order: Special Victims Unit"
- This is just a TV schedule announcement. No in-depth coverage of Mackie.
- http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1346&dat=19981122&id=6Z0sAAAAIBAJ&sjid=Rf0DAAAAIBAJ&pg=3435,1723276, Lakeland Ledger Nov 22, 1998, page 74, "Reeve's Acting Career Back on Course by Suzanne Gill"
- Mackie is mentioned only in passing, no in-depth discussion of her characterization or her career.
- http://www.kinopoisk.ru/name/2508/ Эллисон Маки Allison Mackie
- This is a Russian-language page of information scraped from other websites. There is no original material here, nor is there in-depth coverage of Mackie.
- http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1957&dat=19900727&id=iHchAAAAIBAJ&sjid=cIkFAAAAIBAJ&pg=2341,6232024, The Daily Gazette - Jul 27, 1990 Page 52, "ELvis is Merry Satire That Needs Tightening"
- This newspaper piece about a local stage production has a short paragraph on Karen, the minor role played by Mackie. Nothing is said about how Mackie performed the role, whether she was good or bad, or any other detail about Mackie.
- http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1957&dat=19980623&id=EmFGAAAAIBAJ&sjid=7egMAAAAIBAJ&pg=1593,5444494 The Daily Gazette Jun 23, 1998, Page 4, "Stellar cast in 'The Big Knife' helps Odets pack a wallop by Ellanor Koblenz"
- This newspaper piece about a local stage production says that Mackie played the minor role of Connie Bliss "juicily". That's all they say about Mackie.
- The Hour June 16, 2000 Page C4 "Playhouse takes a wife by David A. Rosenberg"
- This newspaper piece credits Mackie with a starring role in a stage production of The Constant Wife, and the only photo they provide is of Mackie. They criticize Mackie for turning in a "journeyman performance, long on technique, short on inspiration." The reviewer says other actors steal the show from Mackie. This would be really good stuff in The New York Times but it is in a little paper in Norwalk, Connecticut. This source adds incrementally to notability but does not lift Mackie up out of the local level where there are thousands of hard-working actors with no Wikipedia biographies. Binksternet ( talk) 05:18, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k ( talk) 14:44, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
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The result was speedy delete. Speedy deleted ( G5) by Dougweller. ( non-admin closure) Jim Carter (from public cyber) 11:28, 7 September 2014 (UTC)
Allison Mackie
- Allison Mackie ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log · Stats)
- (Find sources: Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)
Not quite enough coverage in the media to satisfy WP:GNG, and not quite enough significant roles to satisfy WP:ENT. One role takes the first step toward ENT and that is a stage appearance in Cyrano, a stripped-down version of the play Cyrano de Bergerac, as the leading lady Roxanne, which Mackie played opposite Frank Langella. (The play was poorly received.) This biography needs more such roles for it to avoid deletion. Binksternet ( talk) 02:06, 3 September 2014 (UTC)
- Keep - Enough mentions of actress in the right places. She's had enough prominent roles as well and in roles with all the right profile actors. Many many more than the thosands of articles about other actors on this website. BTW: This article is only in the early stages ( Boss Reality ( talk) 08:58, 4 September 2014 (UTC))
- Can you point to two or three of the "many many" sources which will save this article? The sources must be verifiable. Binksternet ( talk) 18:43, 5 September 2014 (UTC)
- Comment, I see that Binksternet User_Binksternet who nominated this one for deletion has also nominated the C. Courtney Joyner article for deletion. Strange !!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Boss Reality ( talk • contribs) 09:02, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
- Not so strange, actually. I have been looking at the articles you have created to make sure that they are notable enough for Wikipedia. Some are, some are not. Binksternet ( talk) 18:43, 5 September 2014 (UTC)
- Delete Fails WP:ENT. A number of brief mentions in minor roles, but no articles, books, or reviews that have in-depth or exclusive coverage of her as a subject. - LuckyLouie ( talk) 17:02, 5 September 2014 (UTC)
- Comment. The article has been expanded somewhat since it was nominated for deletion. Here are the new sources:
- http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1356&dat=19991120&id=SuFPAAAAIBAJ&sjid=qAgEAAAAIBAJ&pg=2055,2198988, Ocala Star-Banner - Nov 20, 1999, Page 30, "Monday, 9 p.m. on NBC Law & Order: Special Victims Unit"
- This is just a TV schedule announcement. No in-depth coverage of Mackie.
- http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1346&dat=19981122&id=6Z0sAAAAIBAJ&sjid=Rf0DAAAAIBAJ&pg=3435,1723276, Lakeland Ledger Nov 22, 1998, page 74, "Reeve's Acting Career Back on Course by Suzanne Gill"
- Mackie is mentioned only in passing, no in-depth discussion of her characterization or her career.
- http://www.kinopoisk.ru/name/2508/ Эллисон Маки Allison Mackie
- This is a Russian-language page of information scraped from other websites. There is no original material here, nor is there in-depth coverage of Mackie.
- http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1957&dat=19900727&id=iHchAAAAIBAJ&sjid=cIkFAAAAIBAJ&pg=2341,6232024, The Daily Gazette - Jul 27, 1990 Page 52, "ELvis is Merry Satire That Needs Tightening"
- This newspaper piece about a local stage production has a short paragraph on Karen, the minor role played by Mackie. Nothing is said about how Mackie performed the role, whether she was good or bad, or any other detail about Mackie.
- http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1957&dat=19980623&id=EmFGAAAAIBAJ&sjid=7egMAAAAIBAJ&pg=1593,5444494 The Daily Gazette Jun 23, 1998, Page 4, "Stellar cast in 'The Big Knife' helps Odets pack a wallop by Ellanor Koblenz"
- This newspaper piece about a local stage production says that Mackie played the minor role of Connie Bliss "juicily". That's all they say about Mackie.
- The Hour June 16, 2000 Page C4 "Playhouse takes a wife by David A. Rosenberg"
- This newspaper piece credits Mackie with a starring role in a stage production of The Constant Wife, and the only photo they provide is of Mackie. They criticize Mackie for turning in a "journeyman performance, long on technique, short on inspiration." The reviewer says other actors steal the show from Mackie. This would be really good stuff in The New York Times but it is in a little paper in Norwalk, Connecticut. This source adds incrementally to notability but does not lift Mackie up out of the local level where there are thousands of hard-working actors with no Wikipedia biographies. Binksternet ( talk) 05:18, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k ( talk) 14:44, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k ( talk) 14:44, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.