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The result was delete. Spartaz Humbug! 22:38, 1 November 2015 (UTC)
Alfred J. Loos Fieldhouse
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non notable structure John from Idegon ( talk) 17:27, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
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- Delete unfortunately as I live very close to this (basically down the street) and it's unfortunate to have to delete but my searches of "Alfred J. Loos Fieldhouse Addison Texas" simply found nothing better than some links at Books and browser. SwisterTwister talk 05:39, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
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delete - non-notable building. DangerDogWest ( talk)—Preceding undated comment added 18:22, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
- Struck content from confirmed sock above, per WP:SOCKSTRIKE. North America 1000 03:56, 31 October 2015 (UTC)
- Delete - other than a brief mentions on News and Books, nothing else on any of the searches. Doesn't meet WP:GNG. Onel5969 TT me 16:38, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
- Keep as one of the largest high school basketball gymnasiums in the United States, former playing site for the Dallas Chaparrals, and playing venue for other minor league and semi-pro sports franchises. Search simply "Loos Fieldhouse" and your searches will be far more productive. Like Wikipedia article titles, reporters don't always use the full name of venues with long names when a shorter name will uniquely identify the site to their readers. - Dravecky ( talk) 05:55, 27 October 2015 (UTC)
- Comment On a Google news search, I turned up 1 reference to a semipro team playing there. The article was about the team, not the building. Nothing on the Chaparrals, and their Wikipedia article doesn't mention it either. I'm actually suprised at the paucity of hits. One would think it would be mentioned in articles on games that occured there. But those kinds of mentions don't make for notability, nor does the fact that a semi-pro team plays there, among other places. -- John from Idegon ( talk) 06:24, 27 October 2015 (UTC)
- Reply True, this article from The Dallas Morning News only barely mentions Loos Fieldhouse (as "Loos Field House", another fun-with-Google search possibility) but it confirms that the Chapparals did play some games there. - Dravecky ( talk) 06:45, 27 October 2015 (UTC)
- Reply We rely on op-ed pieces for factual verification now? Again, it is a passing mention. Is there a guideline that states big league use of an arena equals automatic notability? -- John from Idegon ( talk) 09:10, 27 October 2015 (UTC)
- Delete not enough to show notability. Rainbow unicorn ( talk) 23:52, 29 October 2015 (UTC)
- Comment. Here are a few sources from Newspapers.com confirming that the Chaparrals used this facility for training camps, at least [1] [2]; and that after they moved to San Antonio and became the Spurs, they returned there to play [3]. Given that all this happened before the internet, we may have a problem of FUTON bias here. -- Arxiloxos ( talk) 06:16, 31 October 2015 (UTC)
- Keep I agree with the arguments made by Dravecky and Arxiloxos, who found several sources from Newspapers.com and notes that there is probably a
FUTON bias. The gymnasium was constructed in 1965. It is very likely there are non-Internet sources from the 1960s about the gymnasium's construction and opening.
Here is another source verifying that the Chaparrals played at Loos Fieldhouse:
Faraudo, Jeff (2006-03-17). "Cal knows what it is up against". Oakland Tribune. Archived from the original on 2015-11-01. Retrieved 2015-11-01.
Cal freshman Theo Robertson, who played in a similar offense at De La Salle last year, and has tried to provide his teammates with tips, even as late as Wednesday's midday workout at nearby Loos Fieldhouse, where the Dallas Chaparrals of the old ABA once played.
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The result was delete. Spartaz Humbug! 22:38, 1 November 2015 (UTC)
Alfred J. Loos Fieldhouse
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non notable structure John from Idegon ( talk) 17:27, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
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- Delete unfortunately as I live very close to this (basically down the street) and it's unfortunate to have to delete but my searches of "Alfred J. Loos Fieldhouse Addison Texas" simply found nothing better than some links at Books and browser. SwisterTwister talk 05:39, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k ( talk) 01:00, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, sst ✈ 11:43, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
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delete - non-notable building. DangerDogWest ( talk)—Preceding undated comment added 18:22, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
- Struck content from confirmed sock above, per WP:SOCKSTRIKE. North America 1000 03:56, 31 October 2015 (UTC)
- Delete - other than a brief mentions on News and Books, nothing else on any of the searches. Doesn't meet WP:GNG. Onel5969 TT me 16:38, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
- Keep as one of the largest high school basketball gymnasiums in the United States, former playing site for the Dallas Chaparrals, and playing venue for other minor league and semi-pro sports franchises. Search simply "Loos Fieldhouse" and your searches will be far more productive. Like Wikipedia article titles, reporters don't always use the full name of venues with long names when a shorter name will uniquely identify the site to their readers. - Dravecky ( talk) 05:55, 27 October 2015 (UTC)
- Comment On a Google news search, I turned up 1 reference to a semipro team playing there. The article was about the team, not the building. Nothing on the Chaparrals, and their Wikipedia article doesn't mention it either. I'm actually suprised at the paucity of hits. One would think it would be mentioned in articles on games that occured there. But those kinds of mentions don't make for notability, nor does the fact that a semi-pro team plays there, among other places. -- John from Idegon ( talk) 06:24, 27 October 2015 (UTC)
- Reply True, this article from The Dallas Morning News only barely mentions Loos Fieldhouse (as "Loos Field House", another fun-with-Google search possibility) but it confirms that the Chapparals did play some games there. - Dravecky ( talk) 06:45, 27 October 2015 (UTC)
- Reply We rely on op-ed pieces for factual verification now? Again, it is a passing mention. Is there a guideline that states big league use of an arena equals automatic notability? -- John from Idegon ( talk) 09:10, 27 October 2015 (UTC)
- Delete not enough to show notability. Rainbow unicorn ( talk) 23:52, 29 October 2015 (UTC)
- Comment. Here are a few sources from Newspapers.com confirming that the Chaparrals used this facility for training camps, at least [1] [2]; and that after they moved to San Antonio and became the Spurs, they returned there to play [3]. Given that all this happened before the internet, we may have a problem of FUTON bias here. -- Arxiloxos ( talk) 06:16, 31 October 2015 (UTC)
- Keep I agree with the arguments made by Dravecky and Arxiloxos, who found several sources from Newspapers.com and notes that there is probably a
FUTON bias. The gymnasium was constructed in 1965. It is very likely there are non-Internet sources from the 1960s about the gymnasium's construction and opening.
Here is another source verifying that the Chaparrals played at Loos Fieldhouse:
Faraudo, Jeff (2006-03-17). "Cal knows what it is up against". Oakland Tribune. Archived from the original on 2015-11-01. Retrieved 2015-11-01.
Cal freshman Theo Robertson, who played in a similar offense at De La Salle last year, and has tried to provide his teammates with tips, even as late as Wednesday's midday workout at nearby Loos Fieldhouse, where the Dallas Chaparrals of the old ABA once played.
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