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The result was procedural close. Content userfied and article converted to redirect. (non-admin closure) ansh 666 23:35, 9 June 2017 (UTC)
Alexandre Christoyannopoulos
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French–Greek academic without significant coverage in multiple reliable, independent (third-party) sources. ( ?) Only outside coverage besides first-party sources is a BBC interview. As for the scholar notability guideline, he is a lecturer with library holdings less than 70 for his top book (the book is not independently notable based on reliable reviews either). Could potentially redirect to Christian anarchism, which attributes him a few times by name (perhaps added by same user?), but it's still an awkward target, hence the deletion recommendation. czar 15:44, 3 June 2017 (UTC)
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- Oppose I'm not sure how to use Worldcat author pages properly, but it looks to me like the page you linked doesn't include all of his works. ( worldcat and google scholar) It also looks to me like Christian anarchism : a political commentary on the gospel, has 404 library holdings. Another criteria: "The person's research has had a significant impact in their scholarly discipline, broadly construed, as demonstrated by independent reliable sources." 113 citations, 91 of which are since 2012. ( Google Scholar) He may meet another criterion based on the popularity of his works in Christian Anarchist zines, etc., "The person has had a substantial impact outside academia in their academic capacity." However, this is difficult to document. Sondra.kinsey ( talk) 21:08, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
- Even still, per the
general notability guideline, we need reliable sources that go into any sort of depth on his life and work. We don't even have any major reviews for Christian Anarchism...
czar 21:48, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
- @
Sondra.kinsey, thanks for the reviews. I'd be comfortable with redirecting to an article on his book (
Christian Anarchism: A Political Commentary on the Gospel) based on the sources. (Don't see enough for a biographical article, though.) P.S. What database did you use to find these? Edit:
Nevermind
czar 22:08, 6 June 2017 (UTC)
- @ Czar: Believe it or not, I missed that list completely, and wish I had seen in sooner. I used EBSCOhost through my local university library (a great resource), and don't recall which databases precisely (it searches multiple simultaneously). I support a move to Christian Anarchism: A Political Commentary on the Gospel. Sondra.kinsey ( talk) 21:44, 7 June 2017 (UTC)
- @
Czar: I started reading some of the reviews, but I'm realizing this is going to need a major rewrite to focus on the book and incorporate perspectives of various reviewers. I would like to
userfy it by moving the page into
my userspace until I can read more reviews and write an article worthy of mainspace. In the meantime,
Alexandre Christoyannopoulos should redirect to
Christian anarchism, in which he is repeatedly mentioned. Okay?
Sondra.kinsey (
talk) 16:16, 9 June 2017 (UTC)
- Fine by me, but we can also just gut the article in mainspace, leaving the references and a stub that you can expand. Either is fine, but if you don't want to work in mainspace, I'd recommend redirecting the current version and building the book article in your userspace separately. Then we can always change the redirect target later. (Also note that many of those source may not be reliable if they aren't coming from publications or academic journals with an editorial process and reputation for checking facts, so I wouldn't use the weaker of the refs.) czar 16:59, 9 June 2017 (UTC)
- @
Sondra.kinsey, thanks for the reviews. I'd be comfortable with redirecting to an article on his book (
Christian Anarchism: A Political Commentary on the Gospel) based on the sources. (Don't see enough for a biographical article, though.) P.S. What database did you use to find these? Edit:
Nevermind
czar 22:08, 6 June 2017 (UTC)
- Even still, per the
general notability guideline, we need reliable sources that go into any sort of depth on his life and work. We don't even have any major reviews for Christian Anarchism...
czar 21:48, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
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The result was procedural close. Content userfied and article converted to redirect. (non-admin closure) ansh 666 23:35, 9 June 2017 (UTC)
Alexandre Christoyannopoulos
- Alexandre Christoyannopoulos ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log · Stats)
- (Find sources: Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)
French–Greek academic without significant coverage in multiple reliable, independent (third-party) sources. ( ?) Only outside coverage besides first-party sources is a BBC interview. As for the scholar notability guideline, he is a lecturer with library holdings less than 70 for his top book (the book is not independently notable based on reliable reviews either). Could potentially redirect to Christian anarchism, which attributes him a few times by name (perhaps added by same user?), but it's still an awkward target, hence the deletion recommendation. czar 15:44, 3 June 2017 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Academics and educators-related deletion discussions. czar 15:48, 3 June 2017 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Authors-related deletion discussions. czar 15:48, 3 June 2017 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Christianity-related deletion discussions. czar 15:48, 3 June 2017 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of France-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 16:13, 3 June 2017 (UTC)
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- Oppose I'm not sure how to use Worldcat author pages properly, but it looks to me like the page you linked doesn't include all of his works. ( worldcat and google scholar) It also looks to me like Christian anarchism : a political commentary on the gospel, has 404 library holdings. Another criteria: "The person's research has had a significant impact in their scholarly discipline, broadly construed, as demonstrated by independent reliable sources." 113 citations, 91 of which are since 2012. ( Google Scholar) He may meet another criterion based on the popularity of his works in Christian Anarchist zines, etc., "The person has had a substantial impact outside academia in their academic capacity." However, this is difficult to document. Sondra.kinsey ( talk) 21:08, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
- Even still, per the
general notability guideline, we need reliable sources that go into any sort of depth on his life and work. We don't even have any major reviews for Christian Anarchism...
czar 21:48, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
- @
Sondra.kinsey, thanks for the reviews. I'd be comfortable with redirecting to an article on his book (
Christian Anarchism: A Political Commentary on the Gospel) based on the sources. (Don't see enough for a biographical article, though.) P.S. What database did you use to find these? Edit:
Nevermind
czar 22:08, 6 June 2017 (UTC)
- @ Czar: Believe it or not, I missed that list completely, and wish I had seen in sooner. I used EBSCOhost through my local university library (a great resource), and don't recall which databases precisely (it searches multiple simultaneously). I support a move to Christian Anarchism: A Political Commentary on the Gospel. Sondra.kinsey ( talk) 21:44, 7 June 2017 (UTC)
- @
Czar: I started reading some of the reviews, but I'm realizing this is going to need a major rewrite to focus on the book and incorporate perspectives of various reviewers. I would like to
userfy it by moving the page into
my userspace until I can read more reviews and write an article worthy of mainspace. In the meantime,
Alexandre Christoyannopoulos should redirect to
Christian anarchism, in which he is repeatedly mentioned. Okay?
Sondra.kinsey (
talk) 16:16, 9 June 2017 (UTC)
- Fine by me, but we can also just gut the article in mainspace, leaving the references and a stub that you can expand. Either is fine, but if you don't want to work in mainspace, I'd recommend redirecting the current version and building the book article in your userspace separately. Then we can always change the redirect target later. (Also note that many of those source may not be reliable if they aren't coming from publications or academic journals with an editorial process and reputation for checking facts, so I wouldn't use the weaker of the refs.) czar 16:59, 9 June 2017 (UTC)
- @
Sondra.kinsey, thanks for the reviews. I'd be comfortable with redirecting to an article on his book (
Christian Anarchism: A Political Commentary on the Gospel) based on the sources. (Don't see enough for a biographical article, though.) P.S. What database did you use to find these? Edit:
Nevermind
czar 22:08, 6 June 2017 (UTC)
- Even still, per the
general notability guideline, we need reliable sources that go into any sort of depth on his life and work. We don't even have any major reviews for Christian Anarchism...
czar 21:48, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.