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The result was no consensus. DatGuy Talk Contribs 15:24, 10 September 2022 (UTC)
Adrian Dvir
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Nonnotable alien witness, crook healer Loew Galitz ( talk) 02:46, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
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Note: I've had to move the page to conform to standard AfD naming conventions. No opinion on current nomination.
Jalen Folf
(talk) 03:01, 20 August 2022 (UTC) - Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Authors, Paranormal, and Romania. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 06:42, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
- Delete Fails WP:GNG and WP:SIGCOV. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chagropango ( talk • contribs) 07:06, 20 August 2022
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- Keep There has already been a discussion on this. He's appeared in articles on The Jerusalem Post, and appeared multiple times on Israeli TV in the 90s and 2000s. Plus, where else on Wikipedia will you read about Jewish aliens healing people in Hebrew?? -- Spafky ( talk) 11:11, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
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- Do we really need every "alien witness" on Wikipedia? Yer, he made a minor splash in the media, but extraordinary claims need extraordinary evidence, right? We do have an article about pseudoscientists, but they are based on some critical analysis. In our case the mentioned sources are basely on claims of the individual, i.e., they are not independent from the subject. 17:06, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
- What do you mean, "not independent from the subject"? --
Spafky (
talk) 13:28, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
- Mean "from the words of the subject". The article about a person cannot be based solely on interviews with the person and person's writings. Loew Galitz ( talk) 16:50, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting, I'd like to see more feedback but this person doesn't seem to meet WP:AUTHOR.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 02:36, 27 August 2022 (UTC)
- Keep AUTHOR was my first thought, but he's got multiple mentions in Gbooks and a few in GScholar of substance, as well as what's discussed above for GNG. Not sure what he does exactly, but it's notable. Oaktree b ( talk) 03:05, 27 August 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 05:03, 3 September 2022 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was no consensus. DatGuy Talk Contribs 15:24, 10 September 2022 (UTC)
Adrian Dvir
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- Adrian Dvir ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log | edits since nomination)
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Nonnotable alien witness, crook healer Loew Galitz ( talk) 02:46, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
-
Note: I've had to move the page to conform to standard AfD naming conventions. No opinion on current nomination.
Jalen Folf
(talk) 03:01, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Authors, Paranormal, and Romania. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 06:42, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
- Delete Fails WP:GNG and WP:SIGCOV. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chagropango ( talk • contribs) 07:06, 20 August 2022
(UTC)
- Keep There has already been a discussion on this. He's appeared in articles on The Jerusalem Post, and appeared multiple times on Israeli TV in the 90s and 2000s. Plus, where else on Wikipedia will you read about Jewish aliens healing people in Hebrew?? -- Spafky ( talk) 11:11, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
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- Do we really need every "alien witness" on Wikipedia? Yer, he made a minor splash in the media, but extraordinary claims need extraordinary evidence, right? We do have an article about pseudoscientists, but they are based on some critical analysis. In our case the mentioned sources are basely on claims of the individual, i.e., they are not independent from the subject. 17:06, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
- What do you mean, "not independent from the subject"? --
Spafky (
talk) 13:28, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
- Mean "from the words of the subject". The article about a person cannot be based solely on interviews with the person and person's writings. Loew Galitz ( talk) 16:50, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting, I'd like to see more feedback but this person doesn't seem to meet WP:AUTHOR.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 02:36, 27 August 2022 (UTC)
- Keep AUTHOR was my first thought, but he's got multiple mentions in Gbooks and a few in GScholar of substance, as well as what's discussed above for GNG. Not sure what he does exactly, but it's notable. Oaktree b ( talk) 03:05, 27 August 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 05:03, 3 September 2022 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.