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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) gidonb ( talk) 13:42, 15 September 2018 (UTC)
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Not sourced, not notable. Certainly not on the East Coast as UAQ only has Western seaboard. Ghalil is in Afghanistan, Aqabah in Jordan. Other close by 'towns' aren't linked. Alexandermcnabb ( talk) 07:05, 10 September 2018 (UTC)
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- Delete. Nonsensical completely uncited grossly inaccurate article. Note that the nominator has lived in the UAE for 25 years. Softlavender ( talk) 11:18, 11 September 2018 (UTC)
- Keep or draftify. Not in the UAE. It's an Omani village, probably placed in the UAE due to a database error ten years ago. Apparently appears on a 1970's topographic map here: [1] SportingFlyer talk 23:46, 11 September 2018 (UTC)
- The article is unsourced. Your source (nice find!) seems to explain some of the mystifying cruft that has been scattered all over the UAE pages - the pace and amount of change in the UAE since the 1970s is simply insane. Back then there were a bunch of desert and mountain communities, mostly semi-permanent and made of 'barasti' or palm frond houses. Some have turned into larger communities and modernised, some have simply been blown away in the wind. There weren't even metalled roads in the vast majority of the country at the time and the tribes were mostly nomadic or semi-nomadic. So, fine, change it to Oman but it's still dubious, not notable and unsourced. Ad Duss is not, as far as I can see, geo-located on that 1970s map at all. Too much energy for a three-line unsourced page, BTW! Best Alexandermcnabb ( talk) 03:26, 12 September 2018 (UTC)
- Keep - Per WP:PILLARS. It does appear to be a genuine and distinct population center. [2] The only nearby village claimed by the article seems to be Limah and I've adjusted the article as so. I've lived in California for over 25 years but that doesn't mean I know all the towns in it. -- Oakshade ( talk) 04:23, 12 September 2018 (UTC)
- But you'd know that Los Angeles isn't in New York, right? This village is NOT IN UMM AL QUWAIN IN THE UAE. And it's still not notable (it's a coastal settlement of about 15 houses and very rural indeed) and still unsourced.
- The coordinates do match a real population center in Oman, not the UAE. I've corrected the article as such. Problem solved (see
WP:SOFIXIT). --
Oakshade (
talk)
06:07, 12 September 2018 (UTC)
- Fine by me, but there's still notability WP:NPLACE. There's not even a road in Al Duss. Best Alexandermcnabb ( talk) 06:14, 12 September 2018 (UTC)
- Since Wikipedia's a gazetteer, populated places simply have to be verifiable per WP:GEOLAND - one of the least notable . A number of these are really difficult because they appear to have been digitized from older, probably inaccurate maps. This one's tricky as well because it appears to go by both Al Duss and Ad Duss, but its location on maps clearly shows human settlement at 25.90829°N, 56.39191°E. The sources that verify this place are probably Omani and in Arabic, though. SportingFlyer talk 06:31, 12 September 2018 (UTC)
- The coordinates do match a real population center in Oman, not the UAE. I've corrected the article as such. Problem solved (see
WP:SOFIXIT). --
Oakshade (
talk)
06:07, 12 September 2018 (UTC)
- But you'd know that Los Angeles isn't in New York, right? This village is NOT IN UMM AL QUWAIN IN THE UAE. And it's still not notable (it's a coastal settlement of about 15 houses and very rural indeed) and still unsourced.
I changed the infobox and page contents to put it in Oman, where it can rest in peace despite its complete and utter lack of notability or sourcing... Someone might like to move it to Al Duss to be accurate with modern naming conventions. Best Alexandermcnabb ( talk) 06:56, 12 September 2018 (UTC)
- Keep. Recognised settlements, however small, are notable. -- Necrothesp ( talk) 15:42, 12 September 2018 (UTC)
- Keep. Satisfies GEOLAND. James500 ( talk) 06:40, 15 September 2018 (UTC)
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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) gidonb ( talk) 13:42, 15 September 2018 (UTC)
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Not sourced, not notable. Certainly not on the East Coast as UAQ only has Western seaboard. Ghalil is in Afghanistan, Aqabah in Jordan. Other close by 'towns' aren't linked. Alexandermcnabb ( talk) 07:05, 10 September 2018 (UTC)
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- Delete. Nonsensical completely uncited grossly inaccurate article. Note that the nominator has lived in the UAE for 25 years. Softlavender ( talk) 11:18, 11 September 2018 (UTC)
- Keep or draftify. Not in the UAE. It's an Omani village, probably placed in the UAE due to a database error ten years ago. Apparently appears on a 1970's topographic map here: [1] SportingFlyer talk 23:46, 11 September 2018 (UTC)
- The article is unsourced. Your source (nice find!) seems to explain some of the mystifying cruft that has been scattered all over the UAE pages - the pace and amount of change in the UAE since the 1970s is simply insane. Back then there were a bunch of desert and mountain communities, mostly semi-permanent and made of 'barasti' or palm frond houses. Some have turned into larger communities and modernised, some have simply been blown away in the wind. There weren't even metalled roads in the vast majority of the country at the time and the tribes were mostly nomadic or semi-nomadic. So, fine, change it to Oman but it's still dubious, not notable and unsourced. Ad Duss is not, as far as I can see, geo-located on that 1970s map at all. Too much energy for a three-line unsourced page, BTW! Best Alexandermcnabb ( talk) 03:26, 12 September 2018 (UTC)
- Keep - Per WP:PILLARS. It does appear to be a genuine and distinct population center. [2] The only nearby village claimed by the article seems to be Limah and I've adjusted the article as so. I've lived in California for over 25 years but that doesn't mean I know all the towns in it. -- Oakshade ( talk) 04:23, 12 September 2018 (UTC)
- But you'd know that Los Angeles isn't in New York, right? This village is NOT IN UMM AL QUWAIN IN THE UAE. And it's still not notable (it's a coastal settlement of about 15 houses and very rural indeed) and still unsourced.
- The coordinates do match a real population center in Oman, not the UAE. I've corrected the article as such. Problem solved (see
WP:SOFIXIT). --
Oakshade (
talk)
06:07, 12 September 2018 (UTC)
- Fine by me, but there's still notability WP:NPLACE. There's not even a road in Al Duss. Best Alexandermcnabb ( talk) 06:14, 12 September 2018 (UTC)
- Since Wikipedia's a gazetteer, populated places simply have to be verifiable per WP:GEOLAND - one of the least notable . A number of these are really difficult because they appear to have been digitized from older, probably inaccurate maps. This one's tricky as well because it appears to go by both Al Duss and Ad Duss, but its location on maps clearly shows human settlement at 25.90829°N, 56.39191°E. The sources that verify this place are probably Omani and in Arabic, though. SportingFlyer talk 06:31, 12 September 2018 (UTC)
- The coordinates do match a real population center in Oman, not the UAE. I've corrected the article as such. Problem solved (see
WP:SOFIXIT). --
Oakshade (
talk)
06:07, 12 September 2018 (UTC)
- But you'd know that Los Angeles isn't in New York, right? This village is NOT IN UMM AL QUWAIN IN THE UAE. And it's still not notable (it's a coastal settlement of about 15 houses and very rural indeed) and still unsourced.
I changed the infobox and page contents to put it in Oman, where it can rest in peace despite its complete and utter lack of notability or sourcing... Someone might like to move it to Al Duss to be accurate with modern naming conventions. Best Alexandermcnabb ( talk) 06:56, 12 September 2018 (UTC)
- Keep. Recognised settlements, however small, are notable. -- Necrothesp ( talk) 15:42, 12 September 2018 (UTC)
- Keep. Satisfies GEOLAND. James500 ( talk) 06:40, 15 September 2018 (UTC)
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