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The result was keep. ‑Scottywong | comment _ 23:36, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
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Do we really need this article? I don't think having Active ships per year is such a good idea, too much effort maintaining it. This article is an orphan so nothing links here - rather delete IMO it as all the info is available on other pages Gbawden ( talk) 10:55, 27 June 2014 (UTC)
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- Keep We don't seem to need this nomination because, if this information is covered elsewhere, there are sensible alternatives to deletion per our editing policy. Andrew ( talk) 12:27, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
- Delete. Not even heads of state get listed by year, and they're much more time-critical. Ships? Noooo. The simple fact that they're in commission at a certain date is unnotable. (The article doesn't even match its own title: it includes ships "being planned or under construction".) I'd say WP:NOTDIRECTORY. What next? Shopping centers open in 1982? Clarityfiend ( talk) 13:30, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
- Weak keep Given that these were the ships available for the Falklands War, the article seems useful. Nick-D ( talk) 03:13, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
- So, are you volunteering to create Active Royal Navy vessels in 1789, Active Royal Navy vessels in 1812, Active Royal Navy vessels in 1939, etc.? Clarityfiend ( talk) 04:31, 30 June 2014 (UTC)
- Not at the moment, but those would be good ideas for articles, and dedicated sources on those topics exist. Nick-D ( talk) 11:45, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
- Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NorthAmerica 1000 20:33, 6 July 2014 (UTC)
- Keep - I am not persuaded by the maintenance argument; because, since this is a year gone by nothing will change unlike List of active Royal Navy ships for example. The connection with the ships available for the Falklands War is an interesting concept. I think a restructure to make that link more direct, or perhaps a merge somewhere, would be a good idea but, meanwhile, I see no reason for deletion. The Whispering Wind ( talk) 15:32, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
- Keep or Merge. As a concept for an article, I think this is reasonable, and certainly reference exist (a number of which are cited on the page) to verify this information and satisfy WP:N. But, the title is terrible (nobody is ever going to type that into a search box), and it's an orphan, so as a practical matter, it's unreachable. Not to mention that, as pointed out by others, the title is just plain wrong, since the article includes ships under construction, etc. So, I think we need to find a better title ( Royal Navy in 1982, perhaps), and make sure it's linked into the appropriate places, such as Falklands War. Alternatively, just merge there. -- RoySmith (talk) 02:35, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
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The result was keep. ‑Scottywong | comment _ 23:36, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
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Do we really need this article? I don't think having Active ships per year is such a good idea, too much effort maintaining it. This article is an orphan so nothing links here - rather delete IMO it as all the info is available on other pages Gbawden ( talk) 10:55, 27 June 2014 (UTC)
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- Keep We don't seem to need this nomination because, if this information is covered elsewhere, there are sensible alternatives to deletion per our editing policy. Andrew ( talk) 12:27, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
- Delete. Not even heads of state get listed by year, and they're much more time-critical. Ships? Noooo. The simple fact that they're in commission at a certain date is unnotable. (The article doesn't even match its own title: it includes ships "being planned or under construction".) I'd say WP:NOTDIRECTORY. What next? Shopping centers open in 1982? Clarityfiend ( talk) 13:30, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
- Weak keep Given that these were the ships available for the Falklands War, the article seems useful. Nick-D ( talk) 03:13, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
- So, are you volunteering to create Active Royal Navy vessels in 1789, Active Royal Navy vessels in 1812, Active Royal Navy vessels in 1939, etc.? Clarityfiend ( talk) 04:31, 30 June 2014 (UTC)
- Not at the moment, but those would be good ideas for articles, and dedicated sources on those topics exist. Nick-D ( talk) 11:45, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
- Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NorthAmerica 1000 20:33, 6 July 2014 (UTC)
- Keep - I am not persuaded by the maintenance argument; because, since this is a year gone by nothing will change unlike List of active Royal Navy ships for example. The connection with the ships available for the Falklands War is an interesting concept. I think a restructure to make that link more direct, or perhaps a merge somewhere, would be a good idea but, meanwhile, I see no reason for deletion. The Whispering Wind ( talk) 15:32, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
- Keep or Merge. As a concept for an article, I think this is reasonable, and certainly reference exist (a number of which are cited on the page) to verify this information and satisfy WP:N. But, the title is terrible (nobody is ever going to type that into a search box), and it's an orphan, so as a practical matter, it's unreachable. Not to mention that, as pointed out by others, the title is just plain wrong, since the article includes ships under construction, etc. So, I think we need to find a better title ( Royal Navy in 1982, perhaps), and make sure it's linked into the appropriate places, such as Falklands War. Alternatively, just merge there. -- RoySmith (talk) 02:35, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
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