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The result was Delete. Randykitty ( talk) 18:58, 25 November 2014 (UTC)
Acharya Surinder Sharma Shastri
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Subject does not meet WP:BASIC or WP:GNG. The references contain little or no mention of him; one of them says he prayed before a business meeting, others don't say anything about him. Binksternet ( talk) 15:39, 13 November 2014 (UTC)
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- Delete per nom; fails all relevant notability guidelines due to lack of coverage in secondary reliable sources. If the assertion in the article is true, I have no objection to redirecting to Hindu Heritage Centre. - Location ( talk) 16:16, 13 November 2014 (UTC)
- I was unable to connect Shastri with the Hindu Heritage Centre in any significant fashion. Despite many newspaper articles having been written about the HHC, Shastri is not in them. Binksternet ( talk) 19:38, 13 November 2014 (UTC)
Hello,
Thank you for you considerations and concerns, I believe Acharya Surinder Sharma Shastri deserves a spot in wikipedia because he is one of the most prominent hindu priests in Canada. As for sources, I do have newspaper articles that have cited information about him and as for the bhasker panchang there are not really any secondary sources available. However bhasker panchang helps calculate all the auspicious dates that come under the hindu calendar and as a result he is responsible for calculating the hindu festival dates for the government calendars. If there is any other ways of sourcing information please let me know, Thanks
18:08, 13 November 2014 (UTC)
- Delete Founding a religious institution that passes notability requirements is not enough to make someone notable. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 12:27, 14 November 2014 (UTC)
- Delete as stated above there are not really any secondary sources available. Reliable secondary sources are required to establish notability. Ellin Beltz ( talk) 15:53, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
I have found a source from the public library and newspaper here http://news.ourontario.ca/1449262/data?n=1 and another here http://news.ourontario.ca/1540477/data?n=1
Here is another news article connecting acharya surinder sharma to the hindu heritage centre aswell as showing his notability as we can see him with members of the ontario legislative including the premier http://www.ourwindsor.ca/news-story/3117035-premier-joins-hindu-celebration/
Here is Acharya surinder sharma shastri being mentioned in the legislative assembly (his name was misspelled acharya surender sharma shastri in this transcript of the legislative assembly) http://www.ontla.on.ca/web/house-proceedings/house_detail.do?Date=2011-05-10&Parl=39&Sess=2&locale=en
We can see the local MPP mention him in his Diary here http://www.bobdelaney.com/canadaday-12/ (again his name is mispelled as surender instead of surinder)
I can find even more sources if that is deemed necessary. I hope this satisfied your needs of secondary sources aswell as notability.
14:32, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
- Unfortunately, I cannot see the full text in your first two links,
[1]
[2] so I cannot judge whether Shastri's life and career is described in any depth. Your third link just has a photo of Shastri greeting some politicians,
[3] so it does not establish notability. Your 4th link is Bob Delaney calling Shastri a spiritual leader in front of the Legislative Assembly of Ontario,
[4] but there is no detailed coverage of Shastri's life and career. Your 5th link is Delaney again, writing in his official blog, saying Shastri is a spiritual leader.
[5] Like the other links, there is nothing about this that satisfies any portion of
WP:BASIC or
WP:GNG, which require in-depth descriptions of Shastri.
Binksternet (
talk) 15:41, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
- Being a "spiritual leader" is not enough to establish notability. There are far, far too many people so described for us to have articles on all of them. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 20:40, 22 November 2014 (UTC)
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The result was Delete. Randykitty ( talk) 18:58, 25 November 2014 (UTC)
Acharya Surinder Sharma Shastri
- Acharya Surinder Sharma Shastri ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log · Stats)
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Subject does not meet WP:BASIC or WP:GNG. The references contain little or no mention of him; one of them says he prayed before a business meeting, others don't say anything about him. Binksternet ( talk) 15:39, 13 November 2014 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Authors-related deletion discussions. NorthAmerica 1000 16:03, 13 November 2014 (UTC)
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- Delete per nom; fails all relevant notability guidelines due to lack of coverage in secondary reliable sources. If the assertion in the article is true, I have no objection to redirecting to Hindu Heritage Centre. - Location ( talk) 16:16, 13 November 2014 (UTC)
- I was unable to connect Shastri with the Hindu Heritage Centre in any significant fashion. Despite many newspaper articles having been written about the HHC, Shastri is not in them. Binksternet ( talk) 19:38, 13 November 2014 (UTC)
Hello,
Thank you for you considerations and concerns, I believe Acharya Surinder Sharma Shastri deserves a spot in wikipedia because he is one of the most prominent hindu priests in Canada. As for sources, I do have newspaper articles that have cited information about him and as for the bhasker panchang there are not really any secondary sources available. However bhasker panchang helps calculate all the auspicious dates that come under the hindu calendar and as a result he is responsible for calculating the hindu festival dates for the government calendars. If there is any other ways of sourcing information please let me know, Thanks
18:08, 13 November 2014 (UTC)
- Delete Founding a religious institution that passes notability requirements is not enough to make someone notable. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 12:27, 14 November 2014 (UTC)
- Delete as stated above there are not really any secondary sources available. Reliable secondary sources are required to establish notability. Ellin Beltz ( talk) 15:53, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
I have found a source from the public library and newspaper here http://news.ourontario.ca/1449262/data?n=1 and another here http://news.ourontario.ca/1540477/data?n=1
Here is another news article connecting acharya surinder sharma to the hindu heritage centre aswell as showing his notability as we can see him with members of the ontario legislative including the premier http://www.ourwindsor.ca/news-story/3117035-premier-joins-hindu-celebration/
Here is Acharya surinder sharma shastri being mentioned in the legislative assembly (his name was misspelled acharya surender sharma shastri in this transcript of the legislative assembly) http://www.ontla.on.ca/web/house-proceedings/house_detail.do?Date=2011-05-10&Parl=39&Sess=2&locale=en
We can see the local MPP mention him in his Diary here http://www.bobdelaney.com/canadaday-12/ (again his name is mispelled as surender instead of surinder)
I can find even more sources if that is deemed necessary. I hope this satisfied your needs of secondary sources aswell as notability.
14:32, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
- Unfortunately, I cannot see the full text in your first two links,
[1]
[2] so I cannot judge whether Shastri's life and career is described in any depth. Your third link just has a photo of Shastri greeting some politicians,
[3] so it does not establish notability. Your 4th link is Bob Delaney calling Shastri a spiritual leader in front of the Legislative Assembly of Ontario,
[4] but there is no detailed coverage of Shastri's life and career. Your 5th link is Delaney again, writing in his official blog, saying Shastri is a spiritual leader.
[5] Like the other links, there is nothing about this that satisfies any portion of
WP:BASIC or
WP:GNG, which require in-depth descriptions of Shastri.
Binksternet (
talk) 15:41, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
- Being a "spiritual leader" is not enough to establish notability. There are far, far too many people so described for us to have articles on all of them. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 20:40, 22 November 2014 (UTC)
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