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The result was keep. Article has been improved since nomination. (non-admin closure) ASTIG️🙃 ( ICE-T • ICE CUBE) 14:35, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
Abu Ali Express
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Two sources, one a blog. Unsure this passes wp:n, ther are also serious neutrality issues (hardly a surprise given the lack of sourcing). Slatersteven ( talk) 14:37, 25 September 2022 (UTC)
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MergeKeepto Media coverage of the Arab–Israeli conflict. Here is another ref. Changed !vote in view of much improved referencing. Selfstudier ( talk) 15:01, 25 September 2022 (UTC)- Delete per General notability guideline: "There is no fixed number of sources required since sources vary in quality and depth of coverage, but multiple sources are generally expected." In this case only one source is reliable. The blog, Tikun Olam, has a mixed record of reliability. It is not possible to base a balanced article on one or two sources writing about a specific aspect, in this case it's relationship with Israeli intelligence. TFD ( talk) 18:26, 25 September 2022 (UTC)
- Keep per notability; I had only added two sources because it was a first edit, but I have just added five other sources that confirm that (as said in the Hebrew Wikipedia version of the article), as of September 2022, it is the Telegram channel with the most views per post in Israel [1], and stories first published by Abu Ali Express have been often reproduced in the mainstream Israeli media, including in Maariv, [2] Globes, [3] Ynet, [4] Arutz Sheva, [5] as well as on Israeli television. [6] Dan Palraz ( talk) 13:30, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
- Keep per 'In May 2021, during the Israeli-Gaza war, the channel hit a record of 6.7 million views per day, posting many exclusive articles during the fighting, which were then cited by many media outlets.[3]' That shows that it has extraordinary influence. Several sources have since been added. Deletion is not an option because the mediatic angle figures as influential as an instrument of psychological warfare. Merge of course is an option, but I suggest this is the kind of article that has an intrinsic interest, and merits some patience to give the editor time to strengthen its sourcing. Nishidani ( talk) 21:41, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
- Snow keep; article has been greatly expanded since this nomination. The Middle East Eye source ( link) has not yet been added, though, Huldra ( talk) 23:56, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
- Keep: The article in question has been expanded, and now seems to meet notability guidelines. Still needs some polishing though. TucanHolmes ( talk) 10:39, 28 September 2022 (UTC)
New sources added:
- ^ telemetrio.io. "Popular channels by Israel". telemetr.io. Retrieved 2022-09-27.
- ^ "חיזבאללה מכחישים: לא הייתה כוונה לתקוף את ישראל - תגובה תגיע בהמשך". www.maariv.co.il. Retrieved 2022-09-27.
- ^ ברקוביץ', אורי (2020-07-06). ""בחלק מהמפעלים לא מבינים מה מתקפות סייבר קשורות אליהם"". Globes. Retrieved 2022-09-27.
- ^ אברהמי, זאב; פולין (2022-02-28). ""לא נשאיר אף אחד מאחור": יממה עם מחלצי הישראלים באוקראינה". Ynet (in Hebrew). Retrieved 2022-09-27.
- ^ פייגלין, אריאל (2020-10-13). "חמשת ערוצי הטלגרם שאתם צריכים להכיר". ערוץ 7 (in Hebrew). Retrieved 2022-09-27.
- ^ "אבו עלי אקספרס". Telegram. Retrieved 2022-09-27.
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The result was keep. Article has been improved since nomination. (non-admin closure) ASTIG️🙃 ( ICE-T • ICE CUBE) 14:35, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
Abu Ali Express
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Two sources, one a blog. Unsure this passes wp:n, ther are also serious neutrality issues (hardly a surprise given the lack of sourcing). Slatersteven ( talk) 14:37, 25 September 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Journalism and Internet. Slatersteven ( talk) 14:37, 25 September 2022 (UTC)
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MergeKeepto Media coverage of the Arab–Israeli conflict. Here is another ref. Changed !vote in view of much improved referencing. Selfstudier ( talk) 15:01, 25 September 2022 (UTC)- Delete per General notability guideline: "There is no fixed number of sources required since sources vary in quality and depth of coverage, but multiple sources are generally expected." In this case only one source is reliable. The blog, Tikun Olam, has a mixed record of reliability. It is not possible to base a balanced article on one or two sources writing about a specific aspect, in this case it's relationship with Israeli intelligence. TFD ( talk) 18:26, 25 September 2022 (UTC)
- Keep per notability; I had only added two sources because it was a first edit, but I have just added five other sources that confirm that (as said in the Hebrew Wikipedia version of the article), as of September 2022, it is the Telegram channel with the most views per post in Israel [1], and stories first published by Abu Ali Express have been often reproduced in the mainstream Israeli media, including in Maariv, [2] Globes, [3] Ynet, [4] Arutz Sheva, [5] as well as on Israeli television. [6] Dan Palraz ( talk) 13:30, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
- Keep per 'In May 2021, during the Israeli-Gaza war, the channel hit a record of 6.7 million views per day, posting many exclusive articles during the fighting, which were then cited by many media outlets.[3]' That shows that it has extraordinary influence. Several sources have since been added. Deletion is not an option because the mediatic angle figures as influential as an instrument of psychological warfare. Merge of course is an option, but I suggest this is the kind of article that has an intrinsic interest, and merits some patience to give the editor time to strengthen its sourcing. Nishidani ( talk) 21:41, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
- Snow keep; article has been greatly expanded since this nomination. The Middle East Eye source ( link) has not yet been added, though, Huldra ( talk) 23:56, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
- Keep: The article in question has been expanded, and now seems to meet notability guidelines. Still needs some polishing though. TucanHolmes ( talk) 10:39, 28 September 2022 (UTC)
New sources added:
- ^ telemetrio.io. "Popular channels by Israel". telemetr.io. Retrieved 2022-09-27.
- ^ "חיזבאללה מכחישים: לא הייתה כוונה לתקוף את ישראל - תגובה תגיע בהמשך". www.maariv.co.il. Retrieved 2022-09-27.
- ^ ברקוביץ', אורי (2020-07-06). ""בחלק מהמפעלים לא מבינים מה מתקפות סייבר קשורות אליהם"". Globes. Retrieved 2022-09-27.
- ^ אברהמי, זאב; פולין (2022-02-28). ""לא נשאיר אף אחד מאחור": יממה עם מחלצי הישראלים באוקראינה". Ynet (in Hebrew). Retrieved 2022-09-27.
- ^ פייגלין, אריאל (2020-10-13). "חמשת ערוצי הטלגרם שאתם צריכים להכיר". ערוץ 7 (in Hebrew). Retrieved 2022-09-27.
- ^ "אבו עלי אקספרס". Telegram. Retrieved 2022-09-27.
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.