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The result was delete. Malcolmxl5 ( talk) 09:42, 30 June 2022 (UTC) reply

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Completely unverifiable. Sourced only to maps, where I can't find it anyway, and looking for info from actual sources only gives me a company called Abellio in Ellesmere, not a neighborhood. There is e.g. not a single source linking Abellio and Banbury Green [1], but then again there is no source for a Banbury Green in Ellesmere Port as well [2].

Given that the same author also was responsible for Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Loch Urigull, it may be time to think about sanctions if my misgivings about this Abellio turn out to be true. I don't t think it is a case of trolling or vandalism, just a WP:CIR issue (see also Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Comunal Documents of Santa Margherita Ligure and the article behind it). Fram ( talk) 08:16, 23 June 2022 (UTC) reply

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Geography and England. Fram ( talk) 08:16, 23 June 2022 (UTC) reply

I found this settlement at /info/en/?search=List_of_United_Kingdom_locations:_Aa-Ak#Ab#Abe. It was part of a list on this site therefore I assumed the place existed but the only sources I could find were from Geohack. I've just been trying my best to make articles for some of the settlements and I've been using that page as reference for where to make a new article. I couldn't find any sources but I assumed what the list posted would be sources in themeselves as I could not find anything else. So if anything I'm certainly not causing vandalism on purpose, I only fell for somebody else's vandalism in the form of whoever wrote that down on the list. And Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Loch Urigull was no different, it was misspelled therefore I couldn't find anything on it therefore it was useless. And I apologise for Loch Urigull because that was simply stupid however Abellio was part of list I thought had some kind of protection and officiality and there was a listed source when I clicked on the grid reference. My sources were found under the column in that article which stated:

(links to map & photo sources) So I assumed it was sources. N1TH Music ( talk) 08:30, 23 June 2022 (UTC) reply

• Delete I think the above makes the delete argument nicely enough, but here's a vote anyway. It's a railway company based in Ellesmere, not a place. Best Alexandermcnabb ( talk) 09:45, 23 June 2022 (UTC) reply
• Delete or merge to Ellesmere Port. Its not an OS settlement and it isn't in the Domesday Book or Vision of Britain and I can't find any sources for it, most Google results appear to be related to Greater Anglia train company. Although at List of United Kingdom locations: Aa-Ak#Abe the grid reference given doesn't show anything and it was added to the list in 2012 and the article uses the Geohack for "List of United Kingdom locations: Aa-Ak" as a source so it seems like this is WP:CIRCULAR. Crouch, Swale ( talk) 11:11, 24 June 2022 (UTC) reply
• Delete, don't merge as it doesn't exist as a settlement. The fact that Abellio (transport company) run Merseyrail, the rail network which runs through the area, cannot be coincidental - the GeoHack is probably an error generated by a railway depot or similar. Black Kite (talk) 12:00, 24 June 2022 (UTC) reply

• Delete as noted above. Going back to the original edits that caused the confusion, 78.150.226.248 ( talk · contribs · WHOIS) who added this to the list of places (back in 2012!) also added a number of other areas of Ellesmere - I've removed redlinks to "Canal Village" ( Template talk:Ellesmere Port suggests it was a housing development?), "Cyprus", "Santa Monica", and "Pacific Heights"; but kept Westminster, Ellesmere Port which has an article and seems to be a legitimate area (it's a council ward). Lastly there is Hope Farm, Ellesmere Port, which seems to have been redirected to a wider area but is not mentioned in that article. Andrew Gray ( talk) 17:03, 24 June 2022 (UTC) reply

  I'll check all the places added by that IP after this discussion. Crouch, Swale ( talk) 19:54, 24 June 2022 (UTC) reply

  Thanks - the appearance of "Westminster" makes me think the IP was just very confused rather than actually trying to vandalise, but who knows. It's not a part of the country I know well enough to be sure either way. Andrew Gray ( talk) 20:02, 24 June 2022 (UTC) reply

  Hope Farm is one of those places that exists in the sense that people will say "I'm going up Hope Farm way" but I think you'd struggle to source it as an actual named settlement - it's more a suburb or housing estate in Great Sutton, which is itself a suburb of Ellesmere Port. There are a number of businesses called "Hope Farm (whatever)" but that's because they stand on Hope Farm Road. Hope Farm Church is the same, but is a contemporary building so there's no history there. Black Kite (talk) 09:40, 25 June 2022 (UTC) reply

• Delete per nom or it'll be little streets next. - Roxy the grumpy dog. wooF 15:02, 25 June 2022 (UTC) reply

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