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The result was delete, without prejudice against recreation of the article if the subject receives significant independent coverage in the future. (I note that the article has not changed substantially since the scheduled start date of the show.) Der yck C. 11:37, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
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Fails WP:GNG and there is no assertion of notability. All it says is "this will be a TV show." WP:TOO SOON. Shinyang-i ( talk) 06:57, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Korea-related deletion discussions. Shinyang-i ( talk) 06:59, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
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- Keep - why keep this category
Category:Upcoming television series? see google
[1].
Kanghuitari (
talk) 07:28, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
- I'm sorry, I don't understand when you say "why keep this category." I wasn't proposing deleting or changing the category(?). I just thought since this article says pretty much nothing and there's no evidence the show will be notable, it shouldn't be created until it actually is notable. The google search was a combination of non-reliable sources and a few RS that simply all carried the same article announcing the show as upcoming, just like every single new show in Korea is announced. Because every show is announced like this, such an announcement cannot establish notability. Anyway, I'm trying to find guidelines for upcoming TV shows because I couldn't find a common thread in the articles in the "upcoming" category - some were one line and terrible, some were quite long and well-sourced, some are for things that aired years ago and have never been removed from the "upcoming" category. I just don't get why you don't wait until the show begins and receives actual significant discussion (not just recaps) in reliable sources before making the article. Shinyang-i ( talk) 21:18, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
- And I'm back. Per WP:TV, this article is not appropriate for Wikipedia. The show needs to have received significant coverage in RS, more than just quickie announcements, and there needs to be enough detailed information aside from plot to create a start-class article. This article is one line and the name of the hosts, and there's nothing else to say about it. It might be in the future - wait until then. Shinyang-i ( talk) 21:26, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
- BTW, The program was aired yesterday.
Bradley sniper (
talk) 00:13, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
- So, I think this article should be Keep. Bradley sniper ( talk) 06:10, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America 1000 17:03, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America 1000 17:03, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
- Airing does not establish notability. Existence does not establish notability. Will kpop fans ever learn this?! Shinyang-i ( talk) 03:21, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
- Delete just an attempt to promote a new television series that has nothing but regurgitated press releases for sources. Does not meet notability guidelines. Wikipedia is not a TV Guide. (On the air only two weeks as of this edit.) -- Bejnar ( talk) 21:15, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
- Delete. Does not meet the general notability guideline. -- Inother ( talk) 16:44, 16 April 2015 (UTC)
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The result was delete, without prejudice against recreation of the article if the subject receives significant independent coverage in the future. (I note that the article has not changed substantially since the scheduled start date of the show.) Der yck C. 11:37, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
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Fails WP:GNG and there is no assertion of notability. All it says is "this will be a TV show." WP:TOO SOON. Shinyang-i ( talk) 06:57, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Korea-related deletion discussions. Shinyang-i ( talk) 06:59, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. Random86 ( talk) 07:06, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
- Keep - why keep this category
Category:Upcoming television series? see google
[1].
Kanghuitari (
talk) 07:28, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
- I'm sorry, I don't understand when you say "why keep this category." I wasn't proposing deleting or changing the category(?). I just thought since this article says pretty much nothing and there's no evidence the show will be notable, it shouldn't be created until it actually is notable. The google search was a combination of non-reliable sources and a few RS that simply all carried the same article announcing the show as upcoming, just like every single new show in Korea is announced. Because every show is announced like this, such an announcement cannot establish notability. Anyway, I'm trying to find guidelines for upcoming TV shows because I couldn't find a common thread in the articles in the "upcoming" category - some were one line and terrible, some were quite long and well-sourced, some are for things that aired years ago and have never been removed from the "upcoming" category. I just don't get why you don't wait until the show begins and receives actual significant discussion (not just recaps) in reliable sources before making the article. Shinyang-i ( talk) 21:18, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
- And I'm back. Per WP:TV, this article is not appropriate for Wikipedia. The show needs to have received significant coverage in RS, more than just quickie announcements, and there needs to be enough detailed information aside from plot to create a start-class article. This article is one line and the name of the hosts, and there's nothing else to say about it. It might be in the future - wait until then. Shinyang-i ( talk) 21:26, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
- BTW, The program was aired yesterday.
Bradley sniper (
talk) 00:13, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
- So, I think this article should be Keep. Bradley sniper ( talk) 06:10, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America 1000 17:03, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America 1000 17:03, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
- Airing does not establish notability. Existence does not establish notability. Will kpop fans ever learn this?! Shinyang-i ( talk) 03:21, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
- Delete just an attempt to promote a new television series that has nothing but regurgitated press releases for sources. Does not meet notability guidelines. Wikipedia is not a TV Guide. (On the air only two weeks as of this edit.) -- Bejnar ( talk) 21:15, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
- Delete. Does not meet the general notability guideline. -- Inother ( talk) 16:44, 16 April 2015 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.