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The result was redirect to A roads in Zone 2 of the Great Britain numbering scheme. Liz Read! Talk! 21:29, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
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Unremarkable set of urban streets in the middle of the South London urban sprawl, largely unsourced, no reliable sources. South Circular it isn't. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 19:15, 19 July 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Transportation and England. Shellwood ( talk) 19:48, 19 July 2022 (UTC)
- Redirect to A roads in Zone 2 of the Great Britain numbering scheme and call it a day. Imzadi 1979 → 00:09, 20 July 2022 (UTC)
- Redirect to A roads in Zone 2 of the Great Britain numbering scheme#Four digit roads. There might be something in here that could be added to the notes column but there is no indication in this article of any notability. The main author, Carlwev should be encouraged to contribute this sort of thing to the SABRE Wiki (I can't find a copyright statement for that Wiki, so I don't think a transwiki is possible). All non-notable UK roads should redirect to their list entry or some other appropriate target, there is no other obvious target in this case. Thryduulf ( talk) 10:11, 20 July 2022 (UTC)
- Do not redirect to A roads in Zone 2 of the Great Britain numbering scheme#Four digit roads. Instead, just add some information from reliable sources, for example SABRE, and give it a tidy up. Roads4117 ( talk) 17:16, 21 July 2022 (UTC)
- No, you need sources like The London Encyclopedia and The Survey of London. This is a general purpose encyclopedia, so you need to write for a general audience. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 18:12, 21 July 2022 (UTC)
- Firstly, SABRE is not a reliable source and secondly it contains less information about this road than the article does. Thryduulf ( talk) 10:01, 22 July 2022 (UTC)
- Keep I would prefer to keep this. But I am biased as I wrote most of the article and it is close to my childhood home. I wrote it 14 years ago, and haven't really gone back to it. I would probably write a better sourced article now, although I am very busy with work right now but I wanted to comment before it was too late. Wikipedia with it's 6.5 million articles is going to have articles on small locations and infrastructure. I know it's smaller priority than the south circular, but it seems just as notable as A2199 road, Burnt Ash Pond, Northbrook Park, London, A2216 road, Dartford Cable Tunnel, or Grove Park Sidings. I admit it's not very well written, I wrote it 14 years ago when I was less experienced editor, It is a main route that has existed for centuries, but guilty of not being the M25. I am sure when I have time I/we could write a better article with good sources like I did for local parks in the area that also aren't nationally famous, Northbrook Park, London, The Tarn, Horn Park (park). Carl wev 18:37, 21 July 2022 (UTC)
- Redirect per above. When 2/3 of the article is about the buses and trains that happen to run near the road, it's just not worth a separate article. (Not to mention, the postal codes!) -- Rs chen 7754 18:57, 21 July 2022 (UTC)
- Keep As said by Roads4117, add some references fro reliable sources, for example SABRE, and then tidy up the article to maybe reduce the content about public transport and focus more on the road itself. Rillington ( talk) 12:52, 25 July 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Devonian Wombat ( talk) 03:42, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions. Necrothesp ( talk) 10:16, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
- Redirect to A roads in Zone 2 of the Great Britain numbering scheme per Imzadi1979 and Thryduulf. I fail to see how SABRE meets WP:RS, and the majority of the content of the article is tangential (i.e., about proximate public transport). If there isn't much else to say, a redirect to a list is the least destructive option. -- Kinu t/ c 17:14, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
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The result was redirect to A roads in Zone 2 of the Great Britain numbering scheme. Liz Read! Talk! 21:29, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
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Unremarkable set of urban streets in the middle of the South London urban sprawl, largely unsourced, no reliable sources. South Circular it isn't. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 19:15, 19 July 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Transportation and England. Shellwood ( talk) 19:48, 19 July 2022 (UTC)
- Redirect to A roads in Zone 2 of the Great Britain numbering scheme and call it a day. Imzadi 1979 → 00:09, 20 July 2022 (UTC)
- Redirect to A roads in Zone 2 of the Great Britain numbering scheme#Four digit roads. There might be something in here that could be added to the notes column but there is no indication in this article of any notability. The main author, Carlwev should be encouraged to contribute this sort of thing to the SABRE Wiki (I can't find a copyright statement for that Wiki, so I don't think a transwiki is possible). All non-notable UK roads should redirect to their list entry or some other appropriate target, there is no other obvious target in this case. Thryduulf ( talk) 10:11, 20 July 2022 (UTC)
- Do not redirect to A roads in Zone 2 of the Great Britain numbering scheme#Four digit roads. Instead, just add some information from reliable sources, for example SABRE, and give it a tidy up. Roads4117 ( talk) 17:16, 21 July 2022 (UTC)
- No, you need sources like The London Encyclopedia and The Survey of London. This is a general purpose encyclopedia, so you need to write for a general audience. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 18:12, 21 July 2022 (UTC)
- Firstly, SABRE is not a reliable source and secondly it contains less information about this road than the article does. Thryduulf ( talk) 10:01, 22 July 2022 (UTC)
- Keep I would prefer to keep this. But I am biased as I wrote most of the article and it is close to my childhood home. I wrote it 14 years ago, and haven't really gone back to it. I would probably write a better sourced article now, although I am very busy with work right now but I wanted to comment before it was too late. Wikipedia with it's 6.5 million articles is going to have articles on small locations and infrastructure. I know it's smaller priority than the south circular, but it seems just as notable as A2199 road, Burnt Ash Pond, Northbrook Park, London, A2216 road, Dartford Cable Tunnel, or Grove Park Sidings. I admit it's not very well written, I wrote it 14 years ago when I was less experienced editor, It is a main route that has existed for centuries, but guilty of not being the M25. I am sure when I have time I/we could write a better article with good sources like I did for local parks in the area that also aren't nationally famous, Northbrook Park, London, The Tarn, Horn Park (park). Carl wev 18:37, 21 July 2022 (UTC)
- Redirect per above. When 2/3 of the article is about the buses and trains that happen to run near the road, it's just not worth a separate article. (Not to mention, the postal codes!) -- Rs chen 7754 18:57, 21 July 2022 (UTC)
- Keep As said by Roads4117, add some references fro reliable sources, for example SABRE, and then tidy up the article to maybe reduce the content about public transport and focus more on the road itself. Rillington ( talk) 12:52, 25 July 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Devonian Wombat ( talk) 03:42, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions. Necrothesp ( talk) 10:16, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
- Redirect to A roads in Zone 2 of the Great Britain numbering scheme per Imzadi1979 and Thryduulf. I fail to see how SABRE meets WP:RS, and the majority of the content of the article is tangential (i.e., about proximate public transport). If there isn't much else to say, a redirect to a list is the least destructive option. -- Kinu t/ c 17:14, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.