The result of the debate was No consensus, after ignoring invalid votes by new users and anons. Deathphoenix ʕ 15:53, 25 May 2006 (UTC) reply
If you came here because someone asked you to, or you read a message on another website, please note that this is
not a majority vote, but instead a discussion among Wikipedia contributors. Wikipedia has
policies and guidelines regarding the encyclopedia's content, and
consensus (agreement) is gauged based on the merits of the arguments, not by counting votes.
However, you are invited to participate and your opinion is welcome. Remember to assume good faith on the part of others and to sign your posts on this page by adding ~~~~ at the end. Note: Comments may be tagged as follows: suspected single-purpose accounts:{{subst:
spa|username}} ; suspected
canvassed users: {{subst:
canvassed|username}} ; accounts blocked for
sockpuppetry: {{subst:
csm|username}} or {{subst:
csp|username}} . |
This suffers from the same faults as the recently-deleted 7/7 Truth Movement, which is to say that there does not seem to be any evidence that this movement actually exists. (As one user says on the talk page, " Every time I stumble across this article, I'm confused about just what exactly is the "Movement"?") The article cites numerous books by various authors, speeches by various politicians, studies by various academics, protests by various groups, and even famous individuals such as Charlie Sheen and Larry Flynt. What it does not cite is any evidence that these people belong to any common organisation, or even that they are in sympathy with each other. This article appears to be very carefully written, constructed to give the impression of impartiality, while in its very existence it promulgates the idea of a single "movement". As such, it violates Wikipedia guidelines on original research and opinion. The most notable groups and individuals questioning the official 9/11 narrative are listed at the category "Alternative theories of September 11, 2001 attacks". In making this nomination, I am explicitly not questioning the validity of questioning the American government's description of the events surrounding 9/11, but I am urging the community to delete this specific misleading article. Vizjim 10:46, 19 May 2006 (UTC) reply
No, it means that a number of people active in the movement have contributed to presenting the facts of the history on this page, to work together toward a comprehensive coverage of the significant events, publications and activists. Most individual groups promote their own events and don't spend the time to compile a history of the efforts of the entire movement, although some have made good efforts [12], [13], [14]. bov 02:10, 24 May 2006 (UTC) reply
So what's the case here? I think the strongest argument anyone could possibly come up with is WP:NOT. Can you people who are so hungry to delete this article make a case for that? Otherwise, please go away and do some constructive content creation instead of trying to bring down what others are trying to put together. Kaimiddleton 04:24, 24 May 2006 (UTC) reply
The result of the debate was No consensus, after ignoring invalid votes by new users and anons. Deathphoenix ʕ 15:53, 25 May 2006 (UTC) reply
If you came here because someone asked you to, or you read a message on another website, please note that this is
not a majority vote, but instead a discussion among Wikipedia contributors. Wikipedia has
policies and guidelines regarding the encyclopedia's content, and
consensus (agreement) is gauged based on the merits of the arguments, not by counting votes.
However, you are invited to participate and your opinion is welcome. Remember to assume good faith on the part of others and to sign your posts on this page by adding ~~~~ at the end. Note: Comments may be tagged as follows: suspected single-purpose accounts:{{subst:
spa|username}} ; suspected
canvassed users: {{subst:
canvassed|username}} ; accounts blocked for
sockpuppetry: {{subst:
csm|username}} or {{subst:
csp|username}} . |
This suffers from the same faults as the recently-deleted 7/7 Truth Movement, which is to say that there does not seem to be any evidence that this movement actually exists. (As one user says on the talk page, " Every time I stumble across this article, I'm confused about just what exactly is the "Movement"?") The article cites numerous books by various authors, speeches by various politicians, studies by various academics, protests by various groups, and even famous individuals such as Charlie Sheen and Larry Flynt. What it does not cite is any evidence that these people belong to any common organisation, or even that they are in sympathy with each other. This article appears to be very carefully written, constructed to give the impression of impartiality, while in its very existence it promulgates the idea of a single "movement". As such, it violates Wikipedia guidelines on original research and opinion. The most notable groups and individuals questioning the official 9/11 narrative are listed at the category "Alternative theories of September 11, 2001 attacks". In making this nomination, I am explicitly not questioning the validity of questioning the American government's description of the events surrounding 9/11, but I am urging the community to delete this specific misleading article. Vizjim 10:46, 19 May 2006 (UTC) reply
No, it means that a number of people active in the movement have contributed to presenting the facts of the history on this page, to work together toward a comprehensive coverage of the significant events, publications and activists. Most individual groups promote their own events and don't spend the time to compile a history of the efforts of the entire movement, although some have made good efforts [12], [13], [14]. bov 02:10, 24 May 2006 (UTC) reply
So what's the case here? I think the strongest argument anyone could possibly come up with is WP:NOT. Can you people who are so hungry to delete this article make a case for that? Otherwise, please go away and do some constructive content creation instead of trying to bring down what others are trying to put together. Kaimiddleton 04:24, 24 May 2006 (UTC) reply