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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 08:26, 21 September 2017 (UTC)
291 Broadway
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Non-notable building. No in-depth coverage to show it passes WP:GNG. It exists. It had some tenants. Onel5969 TT me 02:37, 7 September 2017 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of New York-related deletion discussions. Onel5969 TT me 02:38, 7 September 2017 (UTC)
- Keep. The NYTimes article is substantially about it, and is in-depth coverage. It is a 19-story building built in 1911; there were obviously much taller buildings by then but this is still major at the time, i think. There's no indication in the article that it is a NYC landmark or has other designation, but the phos suggests to me that it is significant. Why has this article just been created though, I wonder. -- do ncr am 15:11, 7 September 2017 (UTC)
- Keep - In-depth coverage with prime example of such from doncram indicating passing WP:GNG.-- Oakshade ( talk) 01:10, 11 September 2017 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, J 947( c) ( m) 17:59, 14 September 2017 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, J 947( c) ( m) 17:59, 14 September 2017 (UTC)
- Comment: I would like to invite Beyond My Ken to opine, as a resident of NYC. Softlavender ( talk) 22:00, 14 September 2017 (UTC)
- Just to note that I've seen this, but I am at work at the moment. I'll comment when I'm home and have access to my references. Beyond My Ken ( talk) 23:40, 14 September 2017 (UTC)
- Keep: Given the full New York Times article, and the fact that it is still in the American Institute of Architects Guide to New York City, means it meets notability. Softlavender ( talk) 02:33, 15 September 2017 (UTC)
- So, everything about this building is fairly equivocal. It's not a landmarked building, but it's across the street from the African Burial Ground and the Commons Historic District, and it's in an area that has a fair number of old but not landmarked buildings. It's listed in the AIA Guide to NYC, but the book doesn't have all that much to say about it; still I found it interesting enough visually to take the picture of it that's in the article. The architects aren't stars by any means, but they did a number of notable buildings in the city, and they have an article here. And then there's the NYT article. I think that if there wasn't that, the building would be borderline and I'd !vote "delete", with the NYT article, it inches over the notability line, and I therefore !vote:
- Keep Beyond My Ken ( talk) 03:50, 15 September 2017 (UTC)
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- A neutral pointer to this discussion has been posted on the talk page of WikiProject New York City. Beyond My Ken ( talk) 20:24, 15 September 2017 (UTC)
- Keep per arguments above. -- Michael Bednarek ( talk) 04:28, 16 September 2017 (UTC)
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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 08:26, 21 September 2017 (UTC)
291 Broadway
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Non-notable building. No in-depth coverage to show it passes WP:GNG. It exists. It had some tenants. Onel5969 TT me 02:37, 7 September 2017 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of New York-related deletion discussions. Onel5969 TT me 02:38, 7 September 2017 (UTC)
- Keep. The NYTimes article is substantially about it, and is in-depth coverage. It is a 19-story building built in 1911; there were obviously much taller buildings by then but this is still major at the time, i think. There's no indication in the article that it is a NYC landmark or has other designation, but the phos suggests to me that it is significant. Why has this article just been created though, I wonder. -- do ncr am 15:11, 7 September 2017 (UTC)
- Keep - In-depth coverage with prime example of such from doncram indicating passing WP:GNG.-- Oakshade ( talk) 01:10, 11 September 2017 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, J 947( c) ( m) 17:59, 14 September 2017 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, J 947( c) ( m) 17:59, 14 September 2017 (UTC)
- Comment: I would like to invite Beyond My Ken to opine, as a resident of NYC. Softlavender ( talk) 22:00, 14 September 2017 (UTC)
- Just to note that I've seen this, but I am at work at the moment. I'll comment when I'm home and have access to my references. Beyond My Ken ( talk) 23:40, 14 September 2017 (UTC)
- Keep: Given the full New York Times article, and the fact that it is still in the American Institute of Architects Guide to New York City, means it meets notability. Softlavender ( talk) 02:33, 15 September 2017 (UTC)
- So, everything about this building is fairly equivocal. It's not a landmarked building, but it's across the street from the African Burial Ground and the Commons Historic District, and it's in an area that has a fair number of old but not landmarked buildings. It's listed in the AIA Guide to NYC, but the book doesn't have all that much to say about it; still I found it interesting enough visually to take the picture of it that's in the article. The architects aren't stars by any means, but they did a number of notable buildings in the city, and they have an article here. And then there's the NYT article. I think that if there wasn't that, the building would be borderline and I'd !vote "delete", with the NYT article, it inches over the notability line, and I therefore !vote:
- Keep Beyond My Ken ( talk) 03:50, 15 September 2017 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Architecture-related deletion discussions. NewYorkActuary ( talk) 04:29, 15 September 2017 (UTC)
- A neutral pointer to this discussion has been posted on the talk page of WikiProject New York City. Beyond My Ken ( talk) 20:24, 15 September 2017 (UTC)
- Keep per arguments above. -- Michael Bednarek ( talk) 04:28, 16 September 2017 (UTC)
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