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The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 23:15, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
2028 Democratic Party presidential primaries
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WP:CRYSTALBALL. No major candidate has declared for the Presidency, all this article contains in speculation about who might run in 2028. Esolo5002 ( talk) 23:27, 27 February 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Politics and United States of America. Shellwood ( talk) 00:52, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
- Delete general practice is to not have these articles until after the current election has taken place (and I don't see significant cause to deviate from that here). Indeed we don't have 2028 United States presidential election yet so it is weird for what is effectively a subarticle of that to exist. Elli ( talk | contribs) 10:05, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
- Delete Too soon, seems like someone is trying to be first to create the articles. "Wikipedia is not a collection of unverifiable speculation, rumors, or presumptions. Wikipedia does not predict the future." The section about Gavin Newsom is completely unrelated to 2028 and just says he debated someone last year. AusLondonder ( talk) 22:36, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
- Delete it's WP:SPECUALTION for now, the page can be recreated once there's relevant information. Given how much of it is speculation, I don't really see draftification as an option Shaws username . talk . 22:38, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
- Delete (copy and paste from the Republican one since this is) clearly WP:TOOSOON. SportingFlyer T· C 16:46, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. and others. Obviously WP:TOOSOON. Sal2100 ( talk) 19:54, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. All opposition to Joe Biden and Donald Trump, barring something truly insane, will be mathematically eliminated on or before March 19. We're about to have our presumptive nominees; I don't see any harm in keeping this or the
2028 Republican Party presidential primaries pages up.
WorldMappings (
talk)
02:56, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
- If we are to delete this page, could we at least make it a draft page? There are a lot of useful references, etc here that I don't think should be wasted. WorldMappings ( talk) 19:46, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
- Comment — The article now contains further speculation with the addition of significantly more candidates, which was not my intention. I initially included candidates who were largely believed to be candidates in 2028, not candidates who were mentioned in one article or two as a candidate. The current article is far more conjectural than I conceived. I am willing to support this nomination, but I believe there is redemption here. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 21:27, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
- Speedy Delete Another clear-cut example of
WP:TOOSOON.
TH1980 (
talk)
02:38, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
- Concur 108.181.160.193 ( talk) 14:30, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per the above without prejudice to draftification. Based on past cycles sources should start to appear soon after the 2024 election is complete in or before early 2025. Eluchil404 ( talk) 02:15, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
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The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 23:15, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
2028 Democratic Party presidential primaries
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WP:CRYSTALBALL. No major candidate has declared for the Presidency, all this article contains in speculation about who might run in 2028. Esolo5002 ( talk) 23:27, 27 February 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Politics and United States of America. Shellwood ( talk) 00:52, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
- Delete general practice is to not have these articles until after the current election has taken place (and I don't see significant cause to deviate from that here). Indeed we don't have 2028 United States presidential election yet so it is weird for what is effectively a subarticle of that to exist. Elli ( talk | contribs) 10:05, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
- Delete Too soon, seems like someone is trying to be first to create the articles. "Wikipedia is not a collection of unverifiable speculation, rumors, or presumptions. Wikipedia does not predict the future." The section about Gavin Newsom is completely unrelated to 2028 and just says he debated someone last year. AusLondonder ( talk) 22:36, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
- Delete it's WP:SPECUALTION for now, the page can be recreated once there's relevant information. Given how much of it is speculation, I don't really see draftification as an option Shaws username . talk . 22:38, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
- Delete (copy and paste from the Republican one since this is) clearly WP:TOOSOON. SportingFlyer T· C 16:46, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. and others. Obviously WP:TOOSOON. Sal2100 ( talk) 19:54, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. All opposition to Joe Biden and Donald Trump, barring something truly insane, will be mathematically eliminated on or before March 19. We're about to have our presumptive nominees; I don't see any harm in keeping this or the
2028 Republican Party presidential primaries pages up.
WorldMappings (
talk)
02:56, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
- If we are to delete this page, could we at least make it a draft page? There are a lot of useful references, etc here that I don't think should be wasted. WorldMappings ( talk) 19:46, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
- Comment — The article now contains further speculation with the addition of significantly more candidates, which was not my intention. I initially included candidates who were largely believed to be candidates in 2028, not candidates who were mentioned in one article or two as a candidate. The current article is far more conjectural than I conceived. I am willing to support this nomination, but I believe there is redemption here. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 21:27, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
- Speedy Delete Another clear-cut example of
WP:TOOSOON.
TH1980 (
talk)
02:38, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
- Concur 108.181.160.193 ( talk) 14:30, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per the above without prejudice to draftification. Based on past cycles sources should start to appear soon after the 2024 election is complete in or before early 2025. Eluchil404 ( talk) 02:15, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.