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The result was redirect to 29th Canadian Ministry. Sandstein 16:57, 3 November 2021 (UTC)
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Articles about very minor events that fail the
will people still need this article to exist ten years from now test. These were created late last year by a British editor on analogy to British articles like
2021 British cabinet reshuffle, but that British example literally has dozens of people moving around, whereas these have far, far fewer, and the British one has almost five times as much sourcing as either of these do -- and WikiProject Canada has never had a consensus that standalone articles about Canadian cabinet shuffles were needed (as witness the fact that these are the only two Canadian cabinet shuffle articles that exist at all, even though Canada has been having cabinet shuffles for over 150 years.) Information about portfolio reassignments can be, and already is, handled in the existing
29th Canadian Ministry, without needing separate articles about the shuffles as standalone "events" in their own right.
I can imagine a scenario where a Canadian cabinet shuffle could accumulate more notability than usual as an event — but the one I can think of that might potentially have a genuine case for that isn't even either of these, and we certainly wouldn't need an indiscriminate box set of hundreds of articles about every Canadian cabinet shuffle that's ever happened.
And even if for some reason these were to be kept, they would have to be moved on
WP:ENGVAR grounds, as Canadian English doesn't call them reshuffles, we just call them shuffles.
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- Delete/redirect to 29th Canadian Ministry. Both of these are just before-and-after listings of the positions members held, but this is already covered in the main article showing the tenures of members at each position. Reywas92 Talk 17:12, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
- Merge to 29th Canadian Ministry. These aren't notable enough for standalone articles, for all the reasons outlined above, but I do think there's use in explicitly noting when each shuffle took place and who joined or left. These tables would fit in easily on the ministry's page (albeit without the portraits).
- Delete or Redirect to the 29th Canadian Ministry article. GoodDay ( talk) 19:50, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
- Delete. The federal cabinet gets reshuffled as often as a deck of cards. (Okay, not that often, but often enough to be routine.) Clarityfiend ( talk) 23:24, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
- Redirect I created the articles because 29th Canadian Ministry is just a long table and is difficult to navigate. Moondragon21 ( talk) 14:13, 27 October 2021 (UTC)
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The result was redirect to 29th Canadian Ministry. Sandstein 16:57, 3 November 2021 (UTC)
2021 Canadian cabinet reshuffle
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Articles about very minor events that fail the
will people still need this article to exist ten years from now test. These were created late last year by a British editor on analogy to British articles like
2021 British cabinet reshuffle, but that British example literally has dozens of people moving around, whereas these have far, far fewer, and the British one has almost five times as much sourcing as either of these do -- and WikiProject Canada has never had a consensus that standalone articles about Canadian cabinet shuffles were needed (as witness the fact that these are the only two Canadian cabinet shuffle articles that exist at all, even though Canada has been having cabinet shuffles for over 150 years.) Information about portfolio reassignments can be, and already is, handled in the existing
29th Canadian Ministry, without needing separate articles about the shuffles as standalone "events" in their own right.
I can imagine a scenario where a Canadian cabinet shuffle could accumulate more notability than usual as an event — but the one I can think of that might potentially have a genuine case for that isn't even either of these, and we certainly wouldn't need an indiscriminate box set of hundreds of articles about every Canadian cabinet shuffle that's ever happened.
And even if for some reason these were to be kept, they would have to be moved on
WP:ENGVAR grounds, as Canadian English doesn't call them reshuffles, we just call them shuffles.
Bearcat (
talk)
16:39, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politics-related deletion discussions. Bearcat ( talk) 16:39, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Canada-related deletion discussions. Bearcat ( talk) 16:39, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
- Delete/redirect to 29th Canadian Ministry. Both of these are just before-and-after listings of the positions members held, but this is already covered in the main article showing the tenures of members at each position. Reywas92 Talk 17:12, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
- Merge to 29th Canadian Ministry. These aren't notable enough for standalone articles, for all the reasons outlined above, but I do think there's use in explicitly noting when each shuffle took place and who joined or left. These tables would fit in easily on the ministry's page (albeit without the portraits).
- Delete or Redirect to the 29th Canadian Ministry article. GoodDay ( talk) 19:50, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
- Delete. The federal cabinet gets reshuffled as often as a deck of cards. (Okay, not that often, but often enough to be routine.) Clarityfiend ( talk) 23:24, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
- Redirect I created the articles because 29th Canadian Ministry is just a long table and is difficult to navigate. Moondragon21 ( talk) 14:13, 27 October 2021 (UTC)
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