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The result was delete. Daniel ( talk) 05:56, 20 May 2021 (UTC) reply

2021 Avignon shooting

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WP:NOTNEWS applies here. Sakiv ( talk) 00:20, 6 May 2021 (UTC) reply

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Crime-related deletion discussions. Sakiv ( talk) 00:20, 6 May 2021 (UTC) reply
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of France-related deletion discussions. Mangoe ( talk) 01:33, 6 May 2021 (UTC) reply
  • delete per WP:NOTNEWS. Mangoe ( talk) 01:34, 6 May 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Delete per WP:NOTNEWS. Nothing is really notable from this event. Police raids and shootouts are tragically common, and should not be on Wikipedia. SunDawn ( talk) 04:03, 6 May 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Keep In France, shootouts may be common with police raids against narcotics, but the outcome of such operations is almost never deadly. All media outlets are almost exclusively talking about that since yesterday, quite odd for a common story.---Wikaviani (talk) (contribs) 17:10, 6 May 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Keep. Murders of police officers are not that common and usually receive far more attention than other murders. More information will doubtless emerge and the article can be expanded. -- Necrothesp ( talk) 11:51, 12 May 2021 (UTC) reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America 1000 03:06, 13 May 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Delete for the reason given. In addition, the article is too "stubby" to be useful to anyone. I might add that I live 90 minutes' drive from Avignon and have been hearing endlessly on television about this event since it happened. Incidentally, Avignon is one of the most crime-ridden cities in France, though mostly (not this time) the violence happens outside the bit that tourists visit. Athel cb ( talk) 09:20, 13 May 2021 (UTC) reply
@ Athel cb: I must confess that i don't get well your rationale, on one hand you say that you have been hearing endlessly on television about this event since it happened and on the other hand you support delete. The fact that you hear a lot about that event is rather an argument for keep rather than delete. Best.---Wikaviani (talk) (contribs) 18:13, 18 May 2021 (UTC) reply
Comment. I mentioned the endless repetition as an example of the way journalists get hold of a story and do it to death until something else comes along, without significantly extending it. In this case the something else is the murderer in the Cévennes, and before the Avignon story it was the woman burned to death by her ex-husband in Mérignac. This last is vastly more notable than the event in Avignon, but if there is an article about it I haven't seen it (and searching Wikipedia for "Mérignac" doesn't find it). Athel cb ( talk) 15:12, 19 May 2021 (UTC) reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Daniel ( talk) 05:56, 20 May 2021 (UTC) reply

2021 Avignon shooting

2021 Avignon shooting (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log)
(Find sources:  Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs· FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

WP:NOTNEWS applies here. Sakiv ( talk) 00:20, 6 May 2021 (UTC) reply

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Crime-related deletion discussions. Sakiv ( talk) 00:20, 6 May 2021 (UTC) reply
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of France-related deletion discussions. Mangoe ( talk) 01:33, 6 May 2021 (UTC) reply
  • delete per WP:NOTNEWS. Mangoe ( talk) 01:34, 6 May 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Delete per WP:NOTNEWS. Nothing is really notable from this event. Police raids and shootouts are tragically common, and should not be on Wikipedia. SunDawn ( talk) 04:03, 6 May 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Keep In France, shootouts may be common with police raids against narcotics, but the outcome of such operations is almost never deadly. All media outlets are almost exclusively talking about that since yesterday, quite odd for a common story.---Wikaviani (talk) (contribs) 17:10, 6 May 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Keep. Murders of police officers are not that common and usually receive far more attention than other murders. More information will doubtless emerge and the article can be expanded. -- Necrothesp ( talk) 11:51, 12 May 2021 (UTC) reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America 1000 03:06, 13 May 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Delete for the reason given. In addition, the article is too "stubby" to be useful to anyone. I might add that I live 90 minutes' drive from Avignon and have been hearing endlessly on television about this event since it happened. Incidentally, Avignon is one of the most crime-ridden cities in France, though mostly (not this time) the violence happens outside the bit that tourists visit. Athel cb ( talk) 09:20, 13 May 2021 (UTC) reply
@ Athel cb: I must confess that i don't get well your rationale, on one hand you say that you have been hearing endlessly on television about this event since it happened and on the other hand you support delete. The fact that you hear a lot about that event is rather an argument for keep rather than delete. Best.---Wikaviani (talk) (contribs) 18:13, 18 May 2021 (UTC) reply
Comment. I mentioned the endless repetition as an example of the way journalists get hold of a story and do it to death until something else comes along, without significantly extending it. In this case the something else is the murderer in the Cévennes, and before the Avignon story it was the woman burned to death by her ex-husband in Mérignac. This last is vastly more notable than the event in Avignon, but if there is an article about it I haven't seen it (and searching Wikipedia for "Mérignac" doesn't find it). Athel cb ( talk) 15:12, 19 May 2021 (UTC) reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

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