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The result was delete. ‑Scottywong | confabulate _ 02:04, 30 July 2019 (UTC)
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Completely hypothetical event that has not been announced, and definitely not certain to take place in 2019, as it might not be called. -- Ted Edwards 19:23, 22 July 2019 (UTC)
- Also, I don't believe this article meets WP:GNG, as I can't find any source on it (never mind reliable secondary independent ones). I also believe it violates WP:CRYSTAL, as the article is just speculation. -- Ted Edwards 21:46, 22 July 2019 (UTC)
- Delete Also, not convinced this is significant enough for an article. If it happens, it could be added to an aftermath section of 2019 Liberal Democrats leadership election. Number 5 7 20:59, 22 July 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politics-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 23:57, 22 July 2019 (UTC)
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- Delete as a clear WP:CRYSTAL violation. In addition, the BBC source given only mentions Swinson becoming party leader, so any speculation on an election would constitute WP:OR. Highway 89 ( talk) 01:31, 23 July 2019 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 05:34, 23 July 2019 (UTC)
- Neutral per WP:RAPID. We have articles on each of the deputy leadership elections in the lib dems (at least all of the recent ones in the last two decade). One is expected to take place - in 2019 (the timetable for these is rather swift - and many of the previous ones occurred when the deputy was appointed to something else and didn't want to hold on to the party post). I can't quite find a source discussing this (in the sea of sources on the leadership election results - in which the deputy leader Jo Swinson became leader) - however I'm fairly sure that even at this early stage there are sources, and that the election itself will take place in the near future. If we delete this - we'll only end up re-creating it in less than a week. I'm at a neutral as the current article is ORish (need at least one source discussing this) Icewhiz ( talk) 09:21, 23 July 2019 (UTC)
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Icewhiz: Why are you fairly sure that there are sources, if you can't find any? --
Ted
Edwards
17:28, 23 July 2019 (UTC)
- As there will be deputy elections in very short order - and at the moment search results are masked out by Boris and the deputy Lib Dem being elected to ldeader.
Icewhiz (
talk)
17:33, 23 July 2019 (UTC)
- If there was going to be news anywhere it would be on the Lib Dem's website, but if there it's hidden so well that they've not put it on their "latest news" page nor can google find it. Thryduulf ( talk) 13:13, 24 July 2019 (UTC)
- As there will be deputy elections in very short order - and at the moment search results are masked out by Boris and the deputy Lib Dem being elected to ldeader.
Icewhiz (
talk)
17:33, 23 July 2019 (UTC)
- @
Icewhiz: Why are you fairly sure that there are sources, if you can't find any? --
Ted
Edwards
17:28, 23 July 2019 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. while there is an article, it could be added to an aftermath section of 2019 Liberal Democrats leadership election -- SalmanZ ( talk) 20:44, 24 July 2019 (UTC)
- Delete for now - As far as I can see at the moment there is no guarantee it will take place - the position went unfilled from 2015-2017 and the Lib Dem parliamentary party is only slightly larger now than it was then. Equally, given the current parliamentary arithmetic, there is a chance that when parliament meets after the recess a general election could be called. In this case it is more likely that any ballot would happen after that date, possibly as late as early 2020, so I think this an event not certain to occur. If and when a ballot is announced then the issue can be looked at again. Dunarc ( talk) 20:43, 25 July 2019 (UTC)
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The result was delete. ‑Scottywong | confabulate _ 02:04, 30 July 2019 (UTC)
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Completely hypothetical event that has not been announced, and definitely not certain to take place in 2019, as it might not be called. -- Ted Edwards 19:23, 22 July 2019 (UTC)
- Also, I don't believe this article meets WP:GNG, as I can't find any source on it (never mind reliable secondary independent ones). I also believe it violates WP:CRYSTAL, as the article is just speculation. -- Ted Edwards 21:46, 22 July 2019 (UTC)
- Delete Also, not convinced this is significant enough for an article. If it happens, it could be added to an aftermath section of 2019 Liberal Democrats leadership election. Number 5 7 20:59, 22 July 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politics-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 23:57, 22 July 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of United Kingdom-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 23:58, 22 July 2019 (UTC)
- Delete as a clear WP:CRYSTAL violation. In addition, the BBC source given only mentions Swinson becoming party leader, so any speculation on an election would constitute WP:OR. Highway 89 ( talk) 01:31, 23 July 2019 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 05:34, 23 July 2019 (UTC)
- Neutral per WP:RAPID. We have articles on each of the deputy leadership elections in the lib dems (at least all of the recent ones in the last two decade). One is expected to take place - in 2019 (the timetable for these is rather swift - and many of the previous ones occurred when the deputy was appointed to something else and didn't want to hold on to the party post). I can't quite find a source discussing this (in the sea of sources on the leadership election results - in which the deputy leader Jo Swinson became leader) - however I'm fairly sure that even at this early stage there are sources, and that the election itself will take place in the near future. If we delete this - we'll only end up re-creating it in less than a week. I'm at a neutral as the current article is ORish (need at least one source discussing this) Icewhiz ( talk) 09:21, 23 July 2019 (UTC)
- @
Icewhiz: Why are you fairly sure that there are sources, if you can't find any? --
Ted
Edwards
17:28, 23 July 2019 (UTC)
- As there will be deputy elections in very short order - and at the moment search results are masked out by Boris and the deputy Lib Dem being elected to ldeader.
Icewhiz (
talk)
17:33, 23 July 2019 (UTC)
- If there was going to be news anywhere it would be on the Lib Dem's website, but if there it's hidden so well that they've not put it on their "latest news" page nor can google find it. Thryduulf ( talk) 13:13, 24 July 2019 (UTC)
- As there will be deputy elections in very short order - and at the moment search results are masked out by Boris and the deputy Lib Dem being elected to ldeader.
Icewhiz (
talk)
17:33, 23 July 2019 (UTC)
- @
Icewhiz: Why are you fairly sure that there are sources, if you can't find any? --
Ted
Edwards
17:28, 23 July 2019 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. while there is an article, it could be added to an aftermath section of 2019 Liberal Democrats leadership election -- SalmanZ ( talk) 20:44, 24 July 2019 (UTC)
- Delete for now - As far as I can see at the moment there is no guarantee it will take place - the position went unfilled from 2015-2017 and the Lib Dem parliamentary party is only slightly larger now than it was then. Equally, given the current parliamentary arithmetic, there is a chance that when parliament meets after the recess a general election could be called. In this case it is more likely that any ballot would happen after that date, possibly as late as early 2020, so I think this an event not certain to occur. If and when a ballot is announced then the issue can be looked at again. Dunarc ( talk) 20:43, 25 July 2019 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.