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Fails
WP:NSEASONS, there is only list of matches with zero prose. Furthermore, I never saw a seasonal articles for the national teams, there is no seasonal articles like "2017 England national football team season", "2017 Spain national football team season" etc.
I am also nominating the following related pages for the same reason:
Keep nothing wrong with recording the matches of a team in detail, there is nothing saying that friendly matches cannot be recorded in detail.
Inter&anthro (User talk:Inter&anthro|talk]])
02:24, 30 January 2018 (UTC)reply
Then read NSEASONS instead, it is CLEARLY written "Articles can be created on individual seasons of teams in top professional leagues, as these articles almost always meet the notability requirements. Team season articles should consist mainly of well-sourced prose, not just statistics and lists of players. Wikipedia is not a stats directory. It is strongly recommended that those articles be redirected to the team page if no sourced prose can be created.", those article are just a list of matches.
Snowflake91 (
talk)
10:09, 30 January 2018 (UTC)reply
Merge as above, using collapsible boxes so that the useful information is all available in the two articles and the boxes prevent overloading the page, and rather than deleting the articles they can be converted to redirects. The information is easily verified so maintenance issues are not a problem. This would be a more useful solution than blanket deletions.
Atlantic306 (
talk)
17:38, 31 January 2018 (UTC)reply
Delete and Merge, I kind of agree with Hhhhhkohhhhh, collaspable tables formatting would be much better instead of all these forked pages.
Govvy (
talk)
14:22, 1 February 2018 (UTC)reply
I think we need to have some sort of article that covers each team's World Cup and Euros/Africa Cup of Nations/equivalent cycle. Instead of having one article per year, what I suggest would cover approximately two years, starting with the first qualifier and ending with the final of the competition. Perhaps this wouldn't work, but it would be better than what we have right now. –
PeeJay09:42, 2 February 2018 (UTC)reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: I am relisting this somewhat reluctantly as I think the guideline based arguments as well as the practical considerations favor deletion. However as there are arguments on the other side I'd like to see if we can get a little closer to something that can be readily identified as consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,
Ad Orientem (
talk)
01:07, 5 February 2018 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
Fails
WP:NSEASONS, there is only list of matches with zero prose. Furthermore, I never saw a seasonal articles for the national teams, there is no seasonal articles like "2017 England national football team season", "2017 Spain national football team season" etc.
I am also nominating the following related pages for the same reason:
Keep nothing wrong with recording the matches of a team in detail, there is nothing saying that friendly matches cannot be recorded in detail.
Inter&anthro (User talk:Inter&anthro|talk]])
02:24, 30 January 2018 (UTC)reply
Then read NSEASONS instead, it is CLEARLY written "Articles can be created on individual seasons of teams in top professional leagues, as these articles almost always meet the notability requirements. Team season articles should consist mainly of well-sourced prose, not just statistics and lists of players. Wikipedia is not a stats directory. It is strongly recommended that those articles be redirected to the team page if no sourced prose can be created.", those article are just a list of matches.
Snowflake91 (
talk)
10:09, 30 January 2018 (UTC)reply
Merge as above, using collapsible boxes so that the useful information is all available in the two articles and the boxes prevent overloading the page, and rather than deleting the articles they can be converted to redirects. The information is easily verified so maintenance issues are not a problem. This would be a more useful solution than blanket deletions.
Atlantic306 (
talk)
17:38, 31 January 2018 (UTC)reply
Delete and Merge, I kind of agree with Hhhhhkohhhhh, collaspable tables formatting would be much better instead of all these forked pages.
Govvy (
talk)
14:22, 1 February 2018 (UTC)reply
I think we need to have some sort of article that covers each team's World Cup and Euros/Africa Cup of Nations/equivalent cycle. Instead of having one article per year, what I suggest would cover approximately two years, starting with the first qualifier and ending with the final of the competition. Perhaps this wouldn't work, but it would be better than what we have right now. –
PeeJay09:42, 2 February 2018 (UTC)reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: I am relisting this somewhat reluctantly as I think the guideline based arguments as well as the practical considerations favor deletion. However as there are arguments on the other side I'd like to see if we can get a little closer to something that can be readily identified as consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,
Ad Orientem (
talk)
01:07, 5 February 2018 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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