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The result was keep. ( non-admin closure) CAPTAIN RAJU (✉) 21:30, 1 March 2017 (UTC)
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Too early per WP:CRYSTAL. The game has not begun yet. The article was deprodded by 2600:8803:7A00:19:90E6:5F9B:D3A9:BA6F, an IPv6 user. GeoffreyT2000 ( talk, contribs) 17:00, 22 February 2017 (UTC)
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- Keep I believe that for major scheduled sports championships in the coming year like this, or Super Bowl LII, or closer to home, 105th Grey Cup, we generally default to keep. If you're basing this on CRYSTAL, it states: "Individual scheduled or expected future events should be included only if the event is notable and almost certain to take place." This is certain to take place. And a major NCAA football championship at a major venue like this is notable. To be sure, that notability isn't currently supported by references in this case, but to delete this bare bones article only means recreating it later, and there is already pertinent info on the venue and date, etc. Shawn in Montreal ( talk) 18:34, 22 February 2017 (UTC)
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- Also, not to pile on, but with a statement like "game has not begun yet," the nominator seems to believe we can only have articles on championship games when play is underway, which is clearly not so. Shawn in Montreal ( talk) 18:55, 22 February 2017 (UTC)
- Keep, per WP:CRYSTAL. Event is notable and almost certain to take place. ansh 666 19:29, 22 February 2017 (UTC)
- Keep the policy cited as a reason for deletion is actually in favor of retaining articles such as this one. Lepricavark ( talk) 20:58, 22 February 2017 (UTC)
Yes Shawn In Montreal is right the article should be kept and it should be saved. 2600:8803:7A00:19:8CE4:E923:7556:7597 ( talk) 23:29, 22 February 2017 (UTC)
- Keep even though the event has not happened yet, there is clearly enough coverage in the media to more than warrant an article. Passes WP:GNG.-- Paul McDonald ( talk) 13:21, 24 February 2017 (UTC)
Yes I Agree with That please save it. 68.102.39.189 ( talk) 22:09, 24 February 2017 (UTC)
- Keep. The Drover's Wife ( talk) 01:44, 26 February 2017 (UTC)
- Keep We know this event is coming up, it's notable, and it's not too far in the future. CRYSTAL doesn't apply here. South Nashua ( talk) 22:04, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
- Weak keep. Personally, I wouldn't have created this article this soon, but, it's an event that we know will definitely happen, and it's less than 12 months away, so I have no issue with it staying. On the other hand, if someone wanted to WP:BOLDly redirect it until we at least know who's going to play in it, I wouldn't have a problem with that, either. Ejgreen77 ( talk) 05:32, 1 March 2017 (UTC)
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The result was keep. ( non-admin closure) CAPTAIN RAJU (✉) 21:30, 1 March 2017 (UTC)
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Too early per WP:CRYSTAL. The game has not begun yet. The article was deprodded by 2600:8803:7A00:19:90E6:5F9B:D3A9:BA6F, an IPv6 user. GeoffreyT2000 ( talk, contribs) 17:00, 22 February 2017 (UTC)
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- Keep I believe that for major scheduled sports championships in the coming year like this, or Super Bowl LII, or closer to home, 105th Grey Cup, we generally default to keep. If you're basing this on CRYSTAL, it states: "Individual scheduled or expected future events should be included only if the event is notable and almost certain to take place." This is certain to take place. And a major NCAA football championship at a major venue like this is notable. To be sure, that notability isn't currently supported by references in this case, but to delete this bare bones article only means recreating it later, and there is already pertinent info on the venue and date, etc. Shawn in Montreal ( talk) 18:34, 22 February 2017 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of American football-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal ( talk) 18:52, 22 February 2017 (UTC)
- Also, not to pile on, but with a statement like "game has not begun yet," the nominator seems to believe we can only have articles on championship games when play is underway, which is clearly not so. Shawn in Montreal ( talk) 18:55, 22 February 2017 (UTC)
- Keep, per WP:CRYSTAL. Event is notable and almost certain to take place. ansh 666 19:29, 22 February 2017 (UTC)
- Keep the policy cited as a reason for deletion is actually in favor of retaining articles such as this one. Lepricavark ( talk) 20:58, 22 February 2017 (UTC)
Yes Shawn In Montreal is right the article should be kept and it should be saved. 2600:8803:7A00:19:8CE4:E923:7556:7597 ( talk) 23:29, 22 February 2017 (UTC)
- Keep even though the event has not happened yet, there is clearly enough coverage in the media to more than warrant an article. Passes WP:GNG.-- Paul McDonald ( talk) 13:21, 24 February 2017 (UTC)
Yes I Agree with That please save it. 68.102.39.189 ( talk) 22:09, 24 February 2017 (UTC)
- Keep. The Drover's Wife ( talk) 01:44, 26 February 2017 (UTC)
- Keep We know this event is coming up, it's notable, and it's not too far in the future. CRYSTAL doesn't apply here. South Nashua ( talk) 22:04, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
- Weak keep. Personally, I wouldn't have created this article this soon, but, it's an event that we know will definitely happen, and it's less than 12 months away, so I have no issue with it staying. On the other hand, if someone wanted to WP:BOLDly redirect it until we at least know who's going to play in it, I wouldn't have a problem with that, either. Ejgreen77 ( talk) 05:32, 1 March 2017 (UTC)
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