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The result was Keep per Wikipedia:Snowball clause. There is ample "significant national or international coverage" and overwhelming support for retention. (non-admin closure) Otr500 ( talk) 15:47, 16 December 2018 (UTC)
2017 Halamish stabbing attack
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WP:NOTNEWS - no lasting impact and no significant coverage in reliable sources outside of the immediate news reports on the attack and trial Nableezy 22:11, 13 December 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Israel-related deletion discussions. Nableezy 22:12, 13 December 2018 (UTC)
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- Keep. Perhaps nominator missed Aftermath section. This was brought up at UN Security Council. There was talk of changing laws. A cursory and quick Google search will show articles a year later still discussing changing laws as a result of this heinous crime. One example https://www.jpost.com/Arab-Israeli-Conflict/Palestinian-Authority-to-pay-Salomon-family-murderer-35-million-553667. brew crewer (yada, yada) 03:00, 14 December 2018 (UTC)
- Speedy keep This subject meets
WP:GNG and was widely reported both nationally and (to a lesser degree) internationally, with dozens of news stories already cited in the article. See also
WP:NEVENT:
Significant national or international coverage is usually expected for an event to be notable. Wide-ranging reporting tends to show significance, but sources that simply mirror or tend to follow other sources, or are under common control with other sources, are usually discounted.
- That criterion has been satisfied here. Catrìona ( talk) 04:50, 14 December 2018 (UTC)
- Keep. Yes another spurious nomination. Wide international coverage, SUSTAINED national coverage. Icewhiz ( talk) 05:05, 14 December 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Terrorism-related deletion discussions. Icewhiz ( talk) 05:06, 14 December 2018 (UTC)
- Keep Apart from the arguments provided by my predecessors, who and which I agree with, I am a little worried about the nomination for deletion on
45 articles from Category:Palestinian terrorism by one and the same editor, whose POV is well-known. Debresser ( talk) 05:51, 14 December 2018 (UTC) - Comment - the GNG is not Wikipedia policy.
WP:NOTNEWS is. There has been no sustained, significant coverage outside of the immediate news sources on the attack and the arrest and trial of the person charged with it. Arguments about notability miss entirely that
policy trumps
guideline.
nableezy -
10:00, 14 December 2018 (UTC)
- Wrong reading of NOTNEWS - this is not routine news reporting. The assertion on sources is false - and clearly false even in a cursory BEFORE. I added several sources sources not from the initial burst or the non-routine trial. This has impacted legislation. E.g. [1], [2], [3]. One is expected to perform a WP:BEFORE prior to nominating. Icewhiz ( talk) 12:29, 14 December 2018 (UTC)
- Keep Incident took place in 2017 and coverage also occurred this year per WP:LASTING. OccultZone ( Talk • Contributions • Log) 14:19, 14 December 2018 (UTC)
- Keep plenty of reliable sources to satisfy GNG for the event.-- 1l2l3k ( talk) 15:29, 14 December 2018 (UTC)
- WP:SNOW Keep of well-sourced article with demonstrable ONGOING and IMPACT that meet WP:SIGCOV. E.M.Gregory ( talk) 22:09, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
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The result was Keep per Wikipedia:Snowball clause. There is ample "significant national or international coverage" and overwhelming support for retention. (non-admin closure) Otr500 ( talk) 15:47, 16 December 2018 (UTC)
2017 Halamish stabbing attack
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WP:NOTNEWS - no lasting impact and no significant coverage in reliable sources outside of the immediate news reports on the attack and trial Nableezy 22:11, 13 December 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Israel-related deletion discussions. Nableezy 22:12, 13 December 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Palestine-related deletion discussions. Nableezy 22:12, 13 December 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Crime-related deletion discussions. Nableezy 22:13, 13 December 2018 (UTC)
- Keep. Perhaps nominator missed Aftermath section. This was brought up at UN Security Council. There was talk of changing laws. A cursory and quick Google search will show articles a year later still discussing changing laws as a result of this heinous crime. One example https://www.jpost.com/Arab-Israeli-Conflict/Palestinian-Authority-to-pay-Salomon-family-murderer-35-million-553667. brew crewer (yada, yada) 03:00, 14 December 2018 (UTC)
- Speedy keep This subject meets
WP:GNG and was widely reported both nationally and (to a lesser degree) internationally, with dozens of news stories already cited in the article. See also
WP:NEVENT:
Significant national or international coverage is usually expected for an event to be notable. Wide-ranging reporting tends to show significance, but sources that simply mirror or tend to follow other sources, or are under common control with other sources, are usually discounted.
- That criterion has been satisfied here. Catrìona ( talk) 04:50, 14 December 2018 (UTC)
- Keep. Yes another spurious nomination. Wide international coverage, SUSTAINED national coverage. Icewhiz ( talk) 05:05, 14 December 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Terrorism-related deletion discussions. Icewhiz ( talk) 05:06, 14 December 2018 (UTC)
- Keep Apart from the arguments provided by my predecessors, who and which I agree with, I am a little worried about the nomination for deletion on
45 articles from Category:Palestinian terrorism by one and the same editor, whose POV is well-known. Debresser ( talk) 05:51, 14 December 2018 (UTC) - Comment - the GNG is not Wikipedia policy.
WP:NOTNEWS is. There has been no sustained, significant coverage outside of the immediate news sources on the attack and the arrest and trial of the person charged with it. Arguments about notability miss entirely that
policy trumps
guideline.
nableezy -
10:00, 14 December 2018 (UTC)
- Wrong reading of NOTNEWS - this is not routine news reporting. The assertion on sources is false - and clearly false even in a cursory BEFORE. I added several sources sources not from the initial burst or the non-routine trial. This has impacted legislation. E.g. [1], [2], [3]. One is expected to perform a WP:BEFORE prior to nominating. Icewhiz ( talk) 12:29, 14 December 2018 (UTC)
- Keep Incident took place in 2017 and coverage also occurred this year per WP:LASTING. OccultZone ( Talk • Contributions • Log) 14:19, 14 December 2018 (UTC)
- Keep plenty of reliable sources to satisfy GNG for the event.-- 1l2l3k ( talk) 15:29, 14 December 2018 (UTC)
- WP:SNOW Keep of well-sourced article with demonstrable ONGOING and IMPACT that meet WP:SIGCOV. E.M.Gregory ( talk) 22:09, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
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