The result was no consensus. Obviously this debate centred pretty heavily on NOTNEWS. The proponents of deletion followed the idea that the incident was a news story not worthy of an encyclopedia article. There was also a BLP concern, which was also articulated quite nicely. The proponents of keeping the article were mostly either saying the event was getting significant enough coverage to count, that the incident was unique enough, or that it passed our notability criteria for criminal acts. Both sides made their case well, although the insight in the comments tends to peter out once all the main points have been made; as is often the case with these sized AfDs. Given how well both sides made there case, it is quite clear there wasn't a consensus to delete or keep; although I would encourage everyone participating to add this article to their watchlists; as there are going to be ongoing BLP concerns. \ Backslash Forwardslash / ( talk) 00:01, 13 November 2009 (UTC) reply
No doubt a fairly horrible event that has stirred up a lot of media attention, but I'm unconvinced that's it anything else but a WP:NOT#NEWS violation. It's also an utter BLP nightmare in waiting, although that's a secondary concern. Black Kite 14:57, 5 November 2009 (UTC) reply
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# News reports. Wikipedia considers the historical notability of persons and events. News coverage can be useful source material for encyclopedic topics, but not all events warrant an encyclopedia article of their own. Routine news coverage of such things as announcements, sports, and tabloid journalism are not sufficient basis for an article. ... --- this case is not routine coverage of announcements, sports, tabloid journalism etc. Richmondian ( talk) 15:23, 5 November 2009 (UTC) reply
*Keep This is clearly a notable event. I read this under World/Nations in the newspaper. How can it be a minor event when it was listed under World/Nation? Obviously people are reading this from around the world.
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Sixth, do not do any research or make any investigation on your own about any matter involved in this case. By way of examples, that means you must not read from a dictionary or a text book or an encyclopedia or talk with a person you consider knowledgeable or go to the Internet for information about some issue in this case. In fairness, learn about this case from the evidence you receive here at the trial and apply it to the law as I give it to you.
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The result was no consensus. Obviously this debate centred pretty heavily on NOTNEWS. The proponents of deletion followed the idea that the incident was a news story not worthy of an encyclopedia article. There was also a BLP concern, which was also articulated quite nicely. The proponents of keeping the article were mostly either saying the event was getting significant enough coverage to count, that the incident was unique enough, or that it passed our notability criteria for criminal acts. Both sides made their case well, although the insight in the comments tends to peter out once all the main points have been made; as is often the case with these sized AfDs. Given how well both sides made there case, it is quite clear there wasn't a consensus to delete or keep; although I would encourage everyone participating to add this article to their watchlists; as there are going to be ongoing BLP concerns. \ Backslash Forwardslash / ( talk) 00:01, 13 November 2009 (UTC) reply
No doubt a fairly horrible event that has stirred up a lot of media attention, but I'm unconvinced that's it anything else but a WP:NOT#NEWS violation. It's also an utter BLP nightmare in waiting, although that's a secondary concern. Black Kite 14:57, 5 November 2009 (UTC) reply
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# News reports. Wikipedia considers the historical notability of persons and events. News coverage can be useful source material for encyclopedic topics, but not all events warrant an encyclopedia article of their own. Routine news coverage of such things as announcements, sports, and tabloid journalism are not sufficient basis for an article. ... --- this case is not routine coverage of announcements, sports, tabloid journalism etc. Richmondian ( talk) 15:23, 5 November 2009 (UTC) reply
*Keep This is clearly a notable event. I read this under World/Nations in the newspaper. How can it be a minor event when it was listed under World/Nation? Obviously people are reading this from around the world.
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Sixth, do not do any research or make any investigation on your own about any matter involved in this case. By way of examples, that means you must not read from a dictionary or a text book or an encyclopedia or talk with a person you consider knowledgeable or go to the Internet for information about some issue in this case. In fairness, learn about this case from the evidence you receive here at the trial and apply it to the law as I give it to you.
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