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The result was keep. Fenix down ( talk) 20:23, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
2002–03 Yeovil Town F.C. season
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A decent article, but it fails WP:NSEASONS. REDMAN 2019 ( talk) 10:42, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
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- Keep WP:NSEASONS states that "Articles can be created on individual seasons of teams in top professional leagues, as these articles almost always meet the notability requirements" (my emphasis). It doesn't state that a season outside of a top professional league MUST NOT be created. This article is well written with plenty of prose, and would surely meet WP:GNG, and could possibly be a GA contender. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 14:31, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
- Also, in comparsion, I looked at some of the other 2002/03 articles linked from the footer, and pages such as
2002–03 Sheffield Wednesday F.C. season and
2002–03 West Ham United F.C. season are pretty terrible, with them mainly being a stats-dump. But because they are Div1/Div2 teams, they get to be kept.
Lugnuts
Fire Walk with Me
14:33, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
- It has a lot of refs but 95% are either BBC reports or posts at the clubs website.
REDMAN 2019 (
talk)
15:18, 7 October 2020 (UTC)
- Is the BBC not a reliable source?
Lugnuts
Fire Walk with Me
16:14, 7 October 2020 (UTC)
- Of course its reliable, but ideally a article should have sources from more then just a couple of websites. REDMAN 2019 ( talk) 12:17, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
- Is the BBC not a reliable source?
Lugnuts
Fire Walk with Me
16:14, 7 October 2020 (UTC)
- It has a lot of refs but 95% are either BBC reports or posts at the clubs website.
REDMAN 2019 (
talk)
15:18, 7 October 2020 (UTC)
- Also, in comparsion, I looked at some of the other 2002/03 articles linked from the footer, and pages such as
2002–03 Sheffield Wednesday F.C. season and
2002–03 West Ham United F.C. season are pretty terrible, with them mainly being a stats-dump. But because they are Div1/Div2 teams, they get to be kept.
Lugnuts
Fire Walk with Me
14:33, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
- Weak keep - meets the NSEASONS criteria in the sense that it satisfies "Team season articles should consist mainly of well-sourced prose", however, a lot of the sourcing is just routine match reports and/or primary sources Spiderone 15:57, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
- Delete - what is significant here, where is the coverage? Yes the prose is well-written, but it's 90% match reports. Giant Snowman 16:50, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
- Keep Championship winning season and extremely well source! I would say GNG is met. @ GiantSnowman: Do you not think that winning the league and being promoted back to the Football League not significant?? Govvy ( talk) 17:16, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
- So you're saying every non-league team gets a season article when they win a title? Giant Snowman 18:35, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
- Keep - surely passes GNG as a notable season that was not only the club's promotion winning season to the Football League after 108 years as a non-league club but also broke a number of records winning the league by a then record points margin and unbeaten home season. Ytfc23 ( talk) 17:58, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:NSEASONS failure. Number 5 7 09:37, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Fenix down ( talk) 13:40, 11 October 2020 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Fenix down ( talk) 13:40, 11 October 2020 (UTC)
- Keep, the match reports provide SIGCOV, meaning that this article passes WP:GNG. Devonian Wombat ( talk) 00:17, 15 October 2020 (UTC)
- Keep Well written article about professional team playing at the national level who were top in their league, gaining promotion. I don't see any indication that NSEASONS wasn't met. That aside, article is well referenced and promotion to League 2 provides GNG coverage. Nfitz ( talk) 23:08, 18 October 2020 (UTC)
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The result was keep. Fenix down ( talk) 20:23, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
2002–03 Yeovil Town F.C. season
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A decent article, but it fails WP:NSEASONS. REDMAN 2019 ( talk) 10:42, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
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- Keep WP:NSEASONS states that "Articles can be created on individual seasons of teams in top professional leagues, as these articles almost always meet the notability requirements" (my emphasis). It doesn't state that a season outside of a top professional league MUST NOT be created. This article is well written with plenty of prose, and would surely meet WP:GNG, and could possibly be a GA contender. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 14:31, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
- Also, in comparsion, I looked at some of the other 2002/03 articles linked from the footer, and pages such as
2002–03 Sheffield Wednesday F.C. season and
2002–03 West Ham United F.C. season are pretty terrible, with them mainly being a stats-dump. But because they are Div1/Div2 teams, they get to be kept.
Lugnuts
Fire Walk with Me
14:33, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
- It has a lot of refs but 95% are either BBC reports or posts at the clubs website.
REDMAN 2019 (
talk)
15:18, 7 October 2020 (UTC)
- Is the BBC not a reliable source?
Lugnuts
Fire Walk with Me
16:14, 7 October 2020 (UTC)
- Of course its reliable, but ideally a article should have sources from more then just a couple of websites. REDMAN 2019 ( talk) 12:17, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
- Is the BBC not a reliable source?
Lugnuts
Fire Walk with Me
16:14, 7 October 2020 (UTC)
- It has a lot of refs but 95% are either BBC reports or posts at the clubs website.
REDMAN 2019 (
talk)
15:18, 7 October 2020 (UTC)
- Also, in comparsion, I looked at some of the other 2002/03 articles linked from the footer, and pages such as
2002–03 Sheffield Wednesday F.C. season and
2002–03 West Ham United F.C. season are pretty terrible, with them mainly being a stats-dump. But because they are Div1/Div2 teams, they get to be kept.
Lugnuts
Fire Walk with Me
14:33, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
- Weak keep - meets the NSEASONS criteria in the sense that it satisfies "Team season articles should consist mainly of well-sourced prose", however, a lot of the sourcing is just routine match reports and/or primary sources Spiderone 15:57, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
- Delete - what is significant here, where is the coverage? Yes the prose is well-written, but it's 90% match reports. Giant Snowman 16:50, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
- Keep Championship winning season and extremely well source! I would say GNG is met. @ GiantSnowman: Do you not think that winning the league and being promoted back to the Football League not significant?? Govvy ( talk) 17:16, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
- So you're saying every non-league team gets a season article when they win a title? Giant Snowman 18:35, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
- Keep - surely passes GNG as a notable season that was not only the club's promotion winning season to the Football League after 108 years as a non-league club but also broke a number of records winning the league by a then record points margin and unbeaten home season. Ytfc23 ( talk) 17:58, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:NSEASONS failure. Number 5 7 09:37, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Fenix down ( talk) 13:40, 11 October 2020 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Fenix down ( talk) 13:40, 11 October 2020 (UTC)
- Keep, the match reports provide SIGCOV, meaning that this article passes WP:GNG. Devonian Wombat ( talk) 00:17, 15 October 2020 (UTC)
- Keep Well written article about professional team playing at the national level who were top in their league, gaining promotion. I don't see any indication that NSEASONS wasn't met. That aside, article is well referenced and promotion to League 2 provides GNG coverage. Nfitz ( talk) 23:08, 18 October 2020 (UTC)
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