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The result was keep. Fenix down ( talk) 15:44, 14 September 2020 (UTC)
1911–12 Stoke F.C. season
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The team was playing non-league football and so fails WP:NSEASONS. REDMAN 2019 ( talk) 14:01, 7 September 2020 (UTC)
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- Comment - Saying the team was playing non-league is a little simplistic given that the Southern League was probably on a similar footing to the Football League at the time. This discussion would hinge on whether the Southern League was fully professional, which has been a matter of debate for some time. Only recently George Edwards' AfD was closed as no consensus over the same issue on the idea that further discussion would clear the matter up. No discussion has been forthcoming I believe, so this is likely to go the same way unless a consensus on the professional status of the league is established. Kosack ( talk) 14:09, 7 September 2020 (UTC)
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- Keep The Southern League was considered a professional league at the time see these previous afds here and here article is also at a high standard so should pass WP:GNG.-- Add92 ( talk) 17:47, 7 September 2020 (UTC)
- While there was discussion over the issue, I'm not seeing where a consensus was established that the SFL was fully professional. The Edwards AfD was inconclusive and the Hargreaves AfD simply points to the other? Kosack ( talk) 19:08, 7 September 2020 (UTC)
- Keep per Add92. Giant Snowman 18:41, 7 September 2020 (UTC)
- Speedy Keep - I fail to understand why User:REDMAN 2019 is doing this. Please withdraw these poor nominations! Nfitz ( talk)
- Keep per above. Useful sports stats article. Batmanthe8th ( talk) 04:56, 9 September 2020 (UTC)
- Keep I agree with others here -- FootyMessi9147 ( talk) -- FootyMessi9147 ( talk) 05:54, 9 September 2020 (UTC) — FootyMessi9147 ( talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
- Keep per above. Pharaoh of the Wizards ( talk) 10:38, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
- keep, notable. Frietjes ( talk) 13:31, 14 September 2020 (UTC)
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The result was keep. Fenix down ( talk) 15:44, 14 September 2020 (UTC)
1911–12 Stoke F.C. season
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The team was playing non-league football and so fails WP:NSEASONS. REDMAN 2019 ( talk) 14:01, 7 September 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions. REDMAN 2019 ( talk) 14:01, 7 September 2020 (UTC)
- Comment - Saying the team was playing non-league is a little simplistic given that the Southern League was probably on a similar footing to the Football League at the time. This discussion would hinge on whether the Southern League was fully professional, which has been a matter of debate for some time. Only recently George Edwards' AfD was closed as no consensus over the same issue on the idea that further discussion would clear the matter up. No discussion has been forthcoming I believe, so this is likely to go the same way unless a consensus on the professional status of the league is established. Kosack ( talk) 14:09, 7 September 2020 (UTC)
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- Keep The Southern League was considered a professional league at the time see these previous afds here and here article is also at a high standard so should pass WP:GNG.-- Add92 ( talk) 17:47, 7 September 2020 (UTC)
- While there was discussion over the issue, I'm not seeing where a consensus was established that the SFL was fully professional. The Edwards AfD was inconclusive and the Hargreaves AfD simply points to the other? Kosack ( talk) 19:08, 7 September 2020 (UTC)
- Keep per Add92. Giant Snowman 18:41, 7 September 2020 (UTC)
- Speedy Keep - I fail to understand why User:REDMAN 2019 is doing this. Please withdraw these poor nominations! Nfitz ( talk)
- Keep per above. Useful sports stats article. Batmanthe8th ( talk) 04:56, 9 September 2020 (UTC)
- Keep I agree with others here -- FootyMessi9147 ( talk) -- FootyMessi9147 ( talk) 05:54, 9 September 2020 (UTC) — FootyMessi9147 ( talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
- Keep per above. Pharaoh of the Wizards ( talk) 10:38, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
- keep, notable. Frietjes ( talk) 13:31, 14 September 2020 (UTC)
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