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The result was keep. Mark Arsten ( talk) 23:38, 2 September 2014 (UTC)
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This episode is not notable. The television series is a typical hour-long drama network TV series so obviously notable. The pilot episode is notable; pilots typically are and the episodes broke some records and lots of public attention, fanboy expectations, etc. The second episode is not notable; it has a guest star reprising role from films but that is not a notable occurrence - there was no public hype, noticeable reaction, etc. I could understand and support an argument that the seventeenth episode "Turn, Turn, Turn" was notable and warrants an article (due to positive reviews and public opinion after worsening reviews; changes in main characters dynamics; beginning the HYDRA storyline; and its pop culture impacts on MCU film franchise, particularly Captain America: The Winter Soldier) but not the sophomore, expectedly less viewed, typical second episode. FilmTVComicsNerd ( talk) 13:09, 25 August 2014 (UTC)
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- Oppose Yes, the episode is not notable in and of its self, but it is sourced and can probably be cleaned up some to make it a solid article, instead of starting again from scratch. - Favre1fan93 ( talk) 15:58, 25 August 2014 (UTC)
- Oppose Agree with Favre, it won't take much to improve the quality of the page by finding a few references. Also, you contradict yourself by stating that the second episode is not notable and is notable. And by the way, many series have pages for every episode, whether they are significantly notable or not. -
adamstom97 (
talk) 21:31, 25 August 2014 (UTC)
- Comment. "Many series have pages for every episode, whether they are significantly notable or not." I consider that a problem.
23
W 00:08, 26 August 2014 (UTC)
- I think what was meant by that statement, is there are pages for every episode of a series (with notable coverage), but in the grand scheme of each series, each episode is obviously not equally notable. (Such as if a series choses to create articles for only the significant episodes.) - Favre1fan93 ( talk) 03:31, 26 August 2014 (UTC)
- Comment. "Many series have pages for every episode, whether they are significantly notable or not." I consider that a problem.
23
W 00:08, 26 August 2014 (UTC)
- Keep. I've found other sources that demonstrate its notability:
- 23 W 00:08, 26 August 2014 (UTC)
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- Comment I have recently made some major expansions to the page, and I think it justifies its own existence now. - adamstom97 ( talk) 08:15, 1 September 2014 (UTC)
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The result was keep. Mark Arsten ( talk) 23:38, 2 September 2014 (UTC)
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This episode is not notable. The television series is a typical hour-long drama network TV series so obviously notable. The pilot episode is notable; pilots typically are and the episodes broke some records and lots of public attention, fanboy expectations, etc. The second episode is not notable; it has a guest star reprising role from films but that is not a notable occurrence - there was no public hype, noticeable reaction, etc. I could understand and support an argument that the seventeenth episode "Turn, Turn, Turn" was notable and warrants an article (due to positive reviews and public opinion after worsening reviews; changes in main characters dynamics; beginning the HYDRA storyline; and its pop culture impacts on MCU film franchise, particularly Captain America: The Winter Soldier) but not the sophomore, expectedly less viewed, typical second episode. FilmTVComicsNerd ( talk) 13:09, 25 August 2014 (UTC)
- Automated comment: This AfD was not correctly transcluded to the log ( step 3). I have transcluded it to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2014 August 25. — cyberbot I NotifyOnline 13:52, 25 August 2014 (UTC)
- Oppose Yes, the episode is not notable in and of its self, but it is sourced and can probably be cleaned up some to make it a solid article, instead of starting again from scratch. - Favre1fan93 ( talk) 15:58, 25 August 2014 (UTC)
- Oppose Agree with Favre, it won't take much to improve the quality of the page by finding a few references. Also, you contradict yourself by stating that the second episode is not notable and is notable. And by the way, many series have pages for every episode, whether they are significantly notable or not. -
adamstom97 (
talk) 21:31, 25 August 2014 (UTC)
- Comment. "Many series have pages for every episode, whether they are significantly notable or not." I consider that a problem.
23
W 00:08, 26 August 2014 (UTC)
- I think what was meant by that statement, is there are pages for every episode of a series (with notable coverage), but in the grand scheme of each series, each episode is obviously not equally notable. (Such as if a series choses to create articles for only the significant episodes.) - Favre1fan93 ( talk) 03:31, 26 August 2014 (UTC)
- Comment. "Many series have pages for every episode, whether they are significantly notable or not." I consider that a problem.
23
W 00:08, 26 August 2014 (UTC)
- Keep. I've found other sources that demonstrate its notability:
- 23 W 00:08, 26 August 2014 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k ( talk) 16:42, 26 August 2014 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k ( talk) 16:42, 26 August 2014 (UTC)
- Comment I have recently made some major expansions to the page, and I think it justifies its own existence now. - adamstom97 ( talk) 08:15, 1 September 2014 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.