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The result was redirect to Minnesota–Nebraska football rivalry. MBisanz talk 00:31, 8 December 2014 (UTC)
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This is a Twitter wager between mascots. Fails WP:GNG. Tchaliburton ( talk) 04:00, 30 November 2014 (UTC)
- Delete - NN trophy. reddogsix ( talk) 04:08, 30 November 2014 (UTC)
- Comment: Is there an overall article on the rivalry? I'm thinking that this is just way, way WP:TOOSOON for an entry (as all of the coverage is extremely recent) but if the rivalry is particularly well documented to merit its own article then this would be mentioned there. Otherwise there's really nothing to prove that this very recently created trophy would really pass notability guidelines. If people do decide to delete I'd definitely recommend that someone incubate it because if it is awarded in following years then it would merit an article. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 04:30, 30 November 2014 (UTC)
- Tokyogirl, the article creator apparently does not understand the applicable notability standards for either a college football "rivalry" series or a trophy. Per WP:NRIVALRY, no sports rivalry is inherently notable and must satisfy the general notability guidelines per WP:GNG, with significant coverage of the series as a "rivalry" in multiple, independent, reliable sources. For a stand-alone article, a rivalry trophy must likewise satisfy the general notability guidelines. In this instance, it is seriously doubtful whether either the trophy or the series (as a "rivalry") satisfy GNG. Dirtlawyer1 ( talk) 16:27, 30 November 2014 (UTC)
- Delete A traveling trophy that has not yet travelled, since it was first award3d in 2014. It doesn't seem to fit in any speedy category--it would be too much of a stretch to call it an organized event. . DGG ( talk ) 09:56, 30 November 2014 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. Harsh (talk) 10:42, 30 November 2014 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of American football-related deletion discussions. Harsh (talk) 10:52, 30 November 2014 (UTC)
- Keep/Merge: There is a 54 game rivalry between these teams - this article could be merged with that page. Meanwhile, the trophy is a physical entity that, admittedly, was just created this year and hasn't had time to travel. I find the trophy notable because it was created by a groundswell of fan support, not as an Astroturfed administrative decision like the Freedom Trophy - DiogenesNY ( talk) 15:20, 30 November 2014 (UTC)
- See my comments above and below. The "Freedom Trophy" is arguably not notable per GNG, as reflected by the fact that it does not have a stand-alone article. Moreover, the Nebraska-Wisconsin football series probably fails GNG as a "rivalry," and probably deserves an AfD of its own. Not every college football series that has been played twice or more is a notable "rivalry." Dirtlawyer1 ( talk) 16:32, 30 November 2014 (UTC)
- Delete - Non-notable trophy for a football college football series. Given that the trophy is newly created, the subject unsurprisingly lacks significant coverage in multiple, independent, reliable sources. Moreover, there is a serious question of whether the underlying series constitutes a notable "rivalry" per WP:NRIVALRY and WP:GNG, given that it lacks significant coverage of the series as a "rivalry". Dirtlawyer1 ( talk) 16:20, 30 November 2014 (UTC)
- As a side note, DL, what about stuff like
this and
this? The football rivalries are redundant to the football navboxes, and none of the other "rivalries" have actual articles of their own. Someone appears to have gone through and made a whole bunch of these for the B1G teams, see
Category:American college sports rivalry navigational boxes.
Ejgreen77 (
talk) 18:33, 30 November 2014 (UTC)
- Those navboxes should not exist because they are completely redundant to the Minnesota Golden Gophers and Nebraska Cornhuskers football navboxes. Please propose both for deletion at TfD and post a notice and TfD links on the WP:CFB talk page. Dirtlawyer1 ( talk) 22:57, 30 November 2014 (UTC)
- As a side note, DL, what about stuff like
this and
this? The football rivalries are redundant to the football navboxes, and none of the other "rivalries" have actual articles of their own. Someone appears to have gone through and made a whole bunch of these for the B1G teams, see
Category:American college sports rivalry navigational boxes.
Ejgreen77 (
talk) 18:33, 30 November 2014 (UTC)
- Merge to Minnesota–Nebraska football rivalry, presuming that article is notable itself. Ejgreen77 ( talk) 19:14, 30 November 2014 (UTC)
- After I get a chance to do my WP:BEFORE homework, I will be proposing Minnesota–Nebraska football rivalry for separate review at AfD. We have a lot of AfD and TfD clean-up work to do after the season is over -- especially with regard to the non-notable CFB "rivalry" articles that several users seem determined to create. Not every CFB series that has been played more than once rises to the level of a genuine rivalry that merits a stand-alone Wikipedia article -- there will be many (30+) proposed for deletion in January, February and March 2015, after the dust from the current season settles. There are also another 10 to 20 regular season game articles that still need to get whacked, too. Dirtlawyer1 ( talk) 22:57, 30 November 2014 (UTC)
- Merge for now to Minnesota–Nebraska football rivalry. This trophy obviously isn't worthy of a standalone article, but it might merit mention in relation to the rivalry. If the rivalry is deemed to not be notable, the info can be deleted at that point. Mellowed Fillmore ( talk) 01:55, 1 December 2014 (UTC)
- Delete as non-notable, having been in existence less than a fortnight according to the article. I would not even merge this. Ifnord ( talk) 02:34, 2 December 2014 (UTC)
- Merge to Minnesota–Nebraska football rivalry. Jweiss11 ( talk) 07:27, 2 December 2014 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
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The result was redirect to Minnesota–Nebraska football rivalry. MBisanz talk 00:31, 8 December 2014 (UTC)
$5 Bits of Wooden Chair
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This is a Twitter wager between mascots. Fails WP:GNG. Tchaliburton ( talk) 04:00, 30 November 2014 (UTC)
- Delete - NN trophy. reddogsix ( talk) 04:08, 30 November 2014 (UTC)
- Comment: Is there an overall article on the rivalry? I'm thinking that this is just way, way WP:TOOSOON for an entry (as all of the coverage is extremely recent) but if the rivalry is particularly well documented to merit its own article then this would be mentioned there. Otherwise there's really nothing to prove that this very recently created trophy would really pass notability guidelines. If people do decide to delete I'd definitely recommend that someone incubate it because if it is awarded in following years then it would merit an article. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 04:30, 30 November 2014 (UTC)
- Tokyogirl, the article creator apparently does not understand the applicable notability standards for either a college football "rivalry" series or a trophy. Per WP:NRIVALRY, no sports rivalry is inherently notable and must satisfy the general notability guidelines per WP:GNG, with significant coverage of the series as a "rivalry" in multiple, independent, reliable sources. For a stand-alone article, a rivalry trophy must likewise satisfy the general notability guidelines. In this instance, it is seriously doubtful whether either the trophy or the series (as a "rivalry") satisfy GNG. Dirtlawyer1 ( talk) 16:27, 30 November 2014 (UTC)
- Delete A traveling trophy that has not yet travelled, since it was first award3d in 2014. It doesn't seem to fit in any speedy category--it would be too much of a stretch to call it an organized event. . DGG ( talk ) 09:56, 30 November 2014 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. Harsh (talk) 10:42, 30 November 2014 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of American football-related deletion discussions. Harsh (talk) 10:52, 30 November 2014 (UTC)
- Keep/Merge: There is a 54 game rivalry between these teams - this article could be merged with that page. Meanwhile, the trophy is a physical entity that, admittedly, was just created this year and hasn't had time to travel. I find the trophy notable because it was created by a groundswell of fan support, not as an Astroturfed administrative decision like the Freedom Trophy - DiogenesNY ( talk) 15:20, 30 November 2014 (UTC)
- See my comments above and below. The "Freedom Trophy" is arguably not notable per GNG, as reflected by the fact that it does not have a stand-alone article. Moreover, the Nebraska-Wisconsin football series probably fails GNG as a "rivalry," and probably deserves an AfD of its own. Not every college football series that has been played twice or more is a notable "rivalry." Dirtlawyer1 ( talk) 16:32, 30 November 2014 (UTC)
- Delete - Non-notable trophy for a football college football series. Given that the trophy is newly created, the subject unsurprisingly lacks significant coverage in multiple, independent, reliable sources. Moreover, there is a serious question of whether the underlying series constitutes a notable "rivalry" per WP:NRIVALRY and WP:GNG, given that it lacks significant coverage of the series as a "rivalry". Dirtlawyer1 ( talk) 16:20, 30 November 2014 (UTC)
- As a side note, DL, what about stuff like
this and
this? The football rivalries are redundant to the football navboxes, and none of the other "rivalries" have actual articles of their own. Someone appears to have gone through and made a whole bunch of these for the B1G teams, see
Category:American college sports rivalry navigational boxes.
Ejgreen77 (
talk) 18:33, 30 November 2014 (UTC)
- Those navboxes should not exist because they are completely redundant to the Minnesota Golden Gophers and Nebraska Cornhuskers football navboxes. Please propose both for deletion at TfD and post a notice and TfD links on the WP:CFB talk page. Dirtlawyer1 ( talk) 22:57, 30 November 2014 (UTC)
- As a side note, DL, what about stuff like
this and
this? The football rivalries are redundant to the football navboxes, and none of the other "rivalries" have actual articles of their own. Someone appears to have gone through and made a whole bunch of these for the B1G teams, see
Category:American college sports rivalry navigational boxes.
Ejgreen77 (
talk) 18:33, 30 November 2014 (UTC)
- Merge to Minnesota–Nebraska football rivalry, presuming that article is notable itself. Ejgreen77 ( talk) 19:14, 30 November 2014 (UTC)
- After I get a chance to do my WP:BEFORE homework, I will be proposing Minnesota–Nebraska football rivalry for separate review at AfD. We have a lot of AfD and TfD clean-up work to do after the season is over -- especially with regard to the non-notable CFB "rivalry" articles that several users seem determined to create. Not every CFB series that has been played more than once rises to the level of a genuine rivalry that merits a stand-alone Wikipedia article -- there will be many (30+) proposed for deletion in January, February and March 2015, after the dust from the current season settles. There are also another 10 to 20 regular season game articles that still need to get whacked, too. Dirtlawyer1 ( talk) 22:57, 30 November 2014 (UTC)
- Merge for now to Minnesota–Nebraska football rivalry. This trophy obviously isn't worthy of a standalone article, but it might merit mention in relation to the rivalry. If the rivalry is deemed to not be notable, the info can be deleted at that point. Mellowed Fillmore ( talk) 01:55, 1 December 2014 (UTC)
- Delete as non-notable, having been in existence less than a fortnight according to the article. I would not even merge this. Ifnord ( talk) 02:34, 2 December 2014 (UTC)
- Merge to Minnesota–Nebraska football rivalry. Jweiss11 ( talk) 07:27, 2 December 2014 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.