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Keep. This website is not obscure. The Language Construction Kit, for example, is a very important and popular document in the conlanging community. -
Branddobbe 20:57, May 6, 2004 (UTC)
Does the writer of the article get a vote? The above user wrote it, anyway. I feel this needs to be said. --
bodnotbod 21:18, May 6, 2004 (UTC)
Why wouldn't I? I don't get a chance to defend it? -
Branddobbe 21:57, May 6, 2004 (UTC)
I see no problem for the writer to add his vote or comment here. About the page: I haven't made up my mind yet --
Chris 73 |
Talk22:46, 6 May 2004 (UTC)
That's OK. I wasn't saying it shouldn't happen. Just wanted to know what the rule was. --
bodnotbod 23:07, May 6, 2004 (UTC)
OK, I tried to find value in the site, but until Mr. Rosenfelder becomes a famous creator of
conlangs, a nationally syndicated columnist, or president of his own
micronation, this is vanity. Delete.
Alcarillo20:59, 6 May 2004 (UTC)
Keep. Probably uneccessary to post, that seems to be the majority position already. But I just wanted say, Dude! Mr. Rosenfelder is a famous creator of conlangs. His languages stand as some of the very best known fictional languages other than those that have been commercially published by major publishers. The most straight forward quantification of this is at
LangMaker's Top 100. I vote for artistic accomplishment over delusions of grandeur (micronations) any day of the week. :
Aidan 00:23, 2004 May 8 (UTC)
Keep. If you'll notice Zompist's
hit-count page, the front page had 132,216 in 2002 and the Language Construction Kit had 68,631. Admittedly, you're probably not going to see it on
Alexa.com, but I'd call that a significant figure, especially when you consider that the content isn't really aiming for a very wide audience. In addition, the data available is only from 2000 to 2002; judging from the upward trend, the hit-counts likely have been and are on the rise. Also, as Branddobbe said, the Language Construction Kit, written by Rosenfelder and hosted at Zompist, is a very well-known and respected guide to constructing languages among the Internet conlanging community. --
Djinn112 22:46, May 6, 2004 (UTC)
Comment: A mention in Britain's Sunday Times
[1] - last para. --
bodnotbod 23:15, May 6, 2004 (UTC)
Keep. Hosts the Language Construction Kit, which is notable. Besides, the dude who runs Zompist actually has a grip on reality, instead of claiming his living room as a micronation. ;) --
Wirehead19:08, 7 May 2004 (UTC)
Delete. There is no point on having articles on web pages when we can simply link to them.
silsor 20:14, May 7, 2004 (UTC)
We have articles on dozens of webpages already. -
Branddobbe 20:20, May 7, 2004 (UTC)
This page is now preserved as an archive of the debate up to the point of deletion and is no longer 'live'. Subsequent comments on the issue, the deletion or on the new method of assessing voting, should be placed on other relevant 'live' pages. Please do not edit this page.
This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the
current main page.
This page is an archive of the discussion surrounding the proposed deletion of the page entitled
Zompist.com.
Keep. This website is not obscure. The Language Construction Kit, for example, is a very important and popular document in the conlanging community. -
Branddobbe 20:57, May 6, 2004 (UTC)
Does the writer of the article get a vote? The above user wrote it, anyway. I feel this needs to be said. --
bodnotbod 21:18, May 6, 2004 (UTC)
Why wouldn't I? I don't get a chance to defend it? -
Branddobbe 21:57, May 6, 2004 (UTC)
I see no problem for the writer to add his vote or comment here. About the page: I haven't made up my mind yet --
Chris 73 |
Talk22:46, 6 May 2004 (UTC)
That's OK. I wasn't saying it shouldn't happen. Just wanted to know what the rule was. --
bodnotbod 23:07, May 6, 2004 (UTC)
OK, I tried to find value in the site, but until Mr. Rosenfelder becomes a famous creator of
conlangs, a nationally syndicated columnist, or president of his own
micronation, this is vanity. Delete.
Alcarillo20:59, 6 May 2004 (UTC)
Keep. Probably uneccessary to post, that seems to be the majority position already. But I just wanted say, Dude! Mr. Rosenfelder is a famous creator of conlangs. His languages stand as some of the very best known fictional languages other than those that have been commercially published by major publishers. The most straight forward quantification of this is at
LangMaker's Top 100. I vote for artistic accomplishment over delusions of grandeur (micronations) any day of the week. :
Aidan 00:23, 2004 May 8 (UTC)
Keep. If you'll notice Zompist's
hit-count page, the front page had 132,216 in 2002 and the Language Construction Kit had 68,631. Admittedly, you're probably not going to see it on
Alexa.com, but I'd call that a significant figure, especially when you consider that the content isn't really aiming for a very wide audience. In addition, the data available is only from 2000 to 2002; judging from the upward trend, the hit-counts likely have been and are on the rise. Also, as Branddobbe said, the Language Construction Kit, written by Rosenfelder and hosted at Zompist, is a very well-known and respected guide to constructing languages among the Internet conlanging community. --
Djinn112 22:46, May 6, 2004 (UTC)
Comment: A mention in Britain's Sunday Times
[1] - last para. --
bodnotbod 23:15, May 6, 2004 (UTC)
Keep. Hosts the Language Construction Kit, which is notable. Besides, the dude who runs Zompist actually has a grip on reality, instead of claiming his living room as a micronation. ;) --
Wirehead19:08, 7 May 2004 (UTC)
Delete. There is no point on having articles on web pages when we can simply link to them.
silsor 20:14, May 7, 2004 (UTC)
We have articles on dozens of webpages already. -
Branddobbe 20:20, May 7, 2004 (UTC)
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