From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I have lurked on Wikipedia for several months now, learning about the system and all of the unique elements that make Wikipedia the fascinating endeavor that it is. I have recently begun to add my own touches to articles, interconnecting and disambiguating and wikifying. I admit freely that I am relatively new to this process, particularly given the experience of many other candidates.

That might be a strength.

I am eager to provide a fresh perspective to the committee. I haven't been around that long, I don't have any biases to fall back onto. Nor do I have a preconcieved notion as to how the site (or the committee) should function. This may make me a sort of "odd man out", where a pseudo-outsider is brought into the committee to provide just that fresh perspective. My experience is with the encyclopedia; I believe it is the duty of each committee member to evaluate the merits of each case in terms of impacts to the Wikipedia project as a whole. We're here to improve the encyclopedia, and any decision must reflect that ultimate goal.

I agree with and support the hastening of the process; arbitration should not take forever. It is important to ensure that the committee is able to make an informed and reasoned decision, and time must be allotted for due diligence. With the committment of the committee members, I believe that this due diligence does not need to take forever.

It is unfortunate when a case escalates to the point of ArbCom's involvement, but such cases can and will occur from time to time. The committee's committment to swift and fair resolution of such matters is precisely why such a committee can be effective as a final semi-judicial authority.

ZZ 14:51, 29 December 2005 (UTC) reply

Questions

Support

  1. Support, a difference in opinions can be good. Matt Yeager 04:28, 9 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  2. Support. -- Kefalonia 09:53, 9 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  3. Support All signs say he's not fit for the job, but I think he is TrafficBenBoy 11:02, 9 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  4. Weak Support Nothing wrong with this candidate, but by far not the most qualified I've seen so far. Jared 18:41, 11 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  5. Support Dr. B 23:27, 13 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  6. Strong support. Seems well adjusted, balanced, and acts in a neutral manner, based on responses to questions (see the questions link in the statement section). Also seems thoughtful enough to produce sensible rather than vengeful decisions. -- Victim of signature fascism | help remove biblecruft 19:02, 15 January 2006 (UTC) reply

Oppose

  1. Oppose. Too new. Ambi 00:03, 9 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  2. Michael Snow 00:03, 9 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  3. Oppose, lack of experience. See my voting rationale. Talrias ( t | e | c) 00:04, 9 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  4. Opppose. Mo0[ talk] 00:07, 9 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  5. Oppose inexperience. David | explanation | Talk 00:08, 9 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  6. Oppose, lack of experience. -- Interiot 00:09, 9 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  7. Zach (Smack Back) Fair use policy 00:13, 9 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  8. Cryptic (talk) 00:17, 9 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  9. Oppose; need more experience with the community. Antandrus (talk) 00:27, 9 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  10. Oppose - Inexperience - Mackensen (talk) 00:29, 9 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  11. Kirill Lok s hin 00:30, 9 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  12. Oppose. -- GraemeL (talk) 00:46, 9 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  13. -- Jaranda wat's sup 01:00, 9 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  14. OpposeOmegatron 01:17, 9 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  15. Oppose. While I agree almost totally with your candidate statement, you have just not been around long enough. Sorry. Batmanand 01:37, 9 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  16. Oppose for lack of experience -- Angelo 02:03, 9 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  17. Oppose -- Jeffrey O. Gustafson - Shazaam! - <*> 02:11, 9 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  18. Oppose, experience — Bunchofgrapes ( talk) 02:47, 9 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  19. Reluctantly oppose as amount of experience really does matter in this kind of role. Jonathunder 02:51, 9 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  20. Oppose. Crunch 03:31, 9 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  21. Oppose Too new. Good luck with future contributions. 172 03:57, 9 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  22. Bobet 04:04, 9 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  23. Oppose. SlimVirgin (talk) 04:05, 9 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  24. Oppose - Too inexperienced. Paul August 04:18, 9 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  25. Oppose. Track record too short.-- ragesoss 04:34, 9 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  26. Oppose. Experience (lack of). novacatz 04:55, 9 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  27. Oppose, agree with Batmanand. 青い(Aoi) 05:04, 9 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  28. Oppose, not enough experience at this time. -- Muchness 05:39, 9 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  29. Oppose. I don't know you, but wish you the best. Ëvilphoenix Burn! 05:45, 9 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  30. Oppose Hamster Sandwich 06:02, 9 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  31. Oppose -- cj | talk 06:02, 9 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  32. Oppose. android 79 06:07, 9 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  33. Oppose. Inexperience issues. Sjakkalle (Check!) 07:11, 9 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  34. Oppose. - Tim Rhymeless (Er...let's shimmy) 07:29, 9 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  35. Oppose. -- RobertGtalk 11:57, 9 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  36. Nightstallion (?) 12:39, 9 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  37. Oppose Meekohi 13:19, 9 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  38. Oppose sorry but I must oppose.   ALKIVAR 13:28, 9 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  39. opposeDunc| 14:07, 9 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  40. oppose.  Grue  14:21, 9 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  41. Oppose, xp. R adiant _>|< 14:27, 9 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  42. Oppose. -- Viriditas 15:09, 9 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  43. Oppose, lack of experience. the wub "?!" RFR - a good idea? 17:31, 9 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  44. Oppose. Needs experience. There are too many ropes around here for a newbie to be able to efficiently pull them all.— Ëzhiki (erinaceus amurensis) 17:47, 9 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  45. Oppose Donar Reiskoffer 20:26, 9 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  46. Oppose. Quarl ( talk) 2006-01-09 21:32 Z
  47. Oppose - Too new. Awolf002 22:19, 9 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  48. Oppose per above. Elle vécu heureuse à jamais ( Be eudaimonic!) 22:26, 9 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  49. Splash talk 23:16, 9 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  50. Oppose. Too new to be familiar enough with policy, etc. H e rmione 1980 23:41, 9 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  51. Oppose. Andrew_pmk | Talk 02:25, 10 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  52. olderwiser 03:01, 10 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  53. Oppose too new. Herostratus 03:34, 10 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  54. Oppose. Fuzzy bunny candidate statement. Fifelfoo 05:33, 10 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  55. Oppose. Several whats? Avriette 07:10, 10 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  56. Raven4x4x 08:39, 10 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  57. E Pluribus Anthony | talk | 13:02, 10 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  58. Oppose. not enough of a track record. # Oppose: lack of experience, and also the arbcom must be under some pressure: it has to be accountable to everyone here, rather than above and beyond. —— It's-is-not-a-genitive 14:22, 10 January 2006 (UTC). reply
  59. Oppose, too new. HGB 19:26, 10 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  60. Oppose, lack of experience. Prodego talk 20:38, 10 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  61. Oppose, needs more experience. -- PTSE 21:55, 10 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  62. Oppose. User's first edit is December 22, 2005. You can't learn enough about the wikipedia community in less than a month! Dr. Cash 01:05, 11 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  63. Oppose. (Note: Vote only reflects suitability of candidate to the role, and does not reflect overall contributions or personally.) - Mailer Diablo 02:14, 11 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  64. Oppose. enochlau ( talk) 05:38, 11 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  65. Oppose, inexperience.-- Srleffler 06:26, 11 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  66. Oppose. -- Masssiveego 07:48, 11 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  67. Oppose. Not enough experince.-- JK the unwise 12:24, 11 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  68. - Vote Signed By: Chazz- Place comments here
  69. Oppose. looking for a long-term relationship -- JWSchmidt 21:14, 11 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  70. OpposeAB C D e 18:58, 12 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  71. Oppose, inexperienced. Sorry. — Ian Manka Questions? Talk to me! 20:33, 12 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  72. Oppose - inexperienced. -- NorkNork 21:35, 12 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  73. Oppose -- Schaefer 10:10, 13 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  74. Krash 18:05, 13 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  75. Oppose - nothing personal, but you are inexperienced. Compu te r Jo e 20:13, 13 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  76. Oppose, inexperienced, and I'm looking for an actioner, not a lurker -- Francs 2000 00:02, 14 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  77. Oppose Deckiller 01:20, 14 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  78. Oppose. Don't feel like your statement brings much to the table. Velvetsmog 01:50, 14 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  79. Oppose. Inexperience -- Aude ( talk | contribs) 05:37, 14 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  80. Oppose. I'm all for fresh faces, but user doesn't demonstrate enough understanding of what makes Wikipedia work. -- William Pietri 22:38, 14 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  81. Oppose. Sarah Ewart 03:38, 15 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  82. -- Boothy443 | trácht ar 06:03, 15 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  83. Oppose Could not possibly understand all of Wikipedia's policies with such little experience. – Comics ( Talk) 08:33, 15 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  84. Oppose. Preaky 02:29, 16 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  85. Oppose. Does not have suffrage in this election. Superm401 | Talk 03:10, 16 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  86. Oppose. XP -- Masonpatriot 06:44, 16 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  87. Oppose. -- Adrian Buehlmann 09:14, 17 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  88. Insufficient experience. Ingoolemo  talk 00:14, 18 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  89. Oppose -- Loopy e 20:31, 19 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  90. Bratsche talk | Esperanza 05:26, 20 January 2006 (UTC) reply
    Oppose. Hastiness in arbitration doesn't appeal to me. Time needed for deliberations. Author782 08:15, 20 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  91. Oppose Flcelloguy ( A note?) 02:12, 22 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  92. Oppose. Good statement, but too inexperienced. — Josiah Rowe ( talkcontribs) 08:05, 22 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  93. Oppose KTC 12:33, 22 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  94. Oppose Alex43223 20:04, 22 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  95. Oppose Not enough experience yet. -- Spondoolicks 22:04, 22 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  96. Oppose CDThieme 23:31, 22 January 2006 (UTC) reply

Neutral

  1. Neutral. Not going to heap it on. Youngamerican 18:44, 16 January 2006 (UTC) reply
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I have lurked on Wikipedia for several months now, learning about the system and all of the unique elements that make Wikipedia the fascinating endeavor that it is. I have recently begun to add my own touches to articles, interconnecting and disambiguating and wikifying. I admit freely that I am relatively new to this process, particularly given the experience of many other candidates.

That might be a strength.

I am eager to provide a fresh perspective to the committee. I haven't been around that long, I don't have any biases to fall back onto. Nor do I have a preconcieved notion as to how the site (or the committee) should function. This may make me a sort of "odd man out", where a pseudo-outsider is brought into the committee to provide just that fresh perspective. My experience is with the encyclopedia; I believe it is the duty of each committee member to evaluate the merits of each case in terms of impacts to the Wikipedia project as a whole. We're here to improve the encyclopedia, and any decision must reflect that ultimate goal.

I agree with and support the hastening of the process; arbitration should not take forever. It is important to ensure that the committee is able to make an informed and reasoned decision, and time must be allotted for due diligence. With the committment of the committee members, I believe that this due diligence does not need to take forever.

It is unfortunate when a case escalates to the point of ArbCom's involvement, but such cases can and will occur from time to time. The committee's committment to swift and fair resolution of such matters is precisely why such a committee can be effective as a final semi-judicial authority.

ZZ 14:51, 29 December 2005 (UTC) reply

Questions

Support

  1. Support, a difference in opinions can be good. Matt Yeager 04:28, 9 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  2. Support. -- Kefalonia 09:53, 9 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  3. Support All signs say he's not fit for the job, but I think he is TrafficBenBoy 11:02, 9 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  4. Weak Support Nothing wrong with this candidate, but by far not the most qualified I've seen so far. Jared 18:41, 11 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  5. Support Dr. B 23:27, 13 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  6. Strong support. Seems well adjusted, balanced, and acts in a neutral manner, based on responses to questions (see the questions link in the statement section). Also seems thoughtful enough to produce sensible rather than vengeful decisions. -- Victim of signature fascism | help remove biblecruft 19:02, 15 January 2006 (UTC) reply

Oppose

  1. Oppose. Too new. Ambi 00:03, 9 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  2. Michael Snow 00:03, 9 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  3. Oppose, lack of experience. See my voting rationale. Talrias ( t | e | c) 00:04, 9 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  4. Opppose. Mo0[ talk] 00:07, 9 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  5. Oppose inexperience. David | explanation | Talk 00:08, 9 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  6. Oppose, lack of experience. -- Interiot 00:09, 9 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  7. Zach (Smack Back) Fair use policy 00:13, 9 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  8. Cryptic (talk) 00:17, 9 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  9. Oppose; need more experience with the community. Antandrus (talk) 00:27, 9 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  10. Oppose - Inexperience - Mackensen (talk) 00:29, 9 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  11. Kirill Lok s hin 00:30, 9 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  12. Oppose. -- GraemeL (talk) 00:46, 9 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  13. -- Jaranda wat's sup 01:00, 9 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  14. OpposeOmegatron 01:17, 9 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  15. Oppose. While I agree almost totally with your candidate statement, you have just not been around long enough. Sorry. Batmanand 01:37, 9 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  16. Oppose for lack of experience -- Angelo 02:03, 9 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  17. Oppose -- Jeffrey O. Gustafson - Shazaam! - <*> 02:11, 9 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  18. Oppose, experience — Bunchofgrapes ( talk) 02:47, 9 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  19. Reluctantly oppose as amount of experience really does matter in this kind of role. Jonathunder 02:51, 9 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  20. Oppose. Crunch 03:31, 9 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  21. Oppose Too new. Good luck with future contributions. 172 03:57, 9 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  22. Bobet 04:04, 9 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  23. Oppose. SlimVirgin (talk) 04:05, 9 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  24. Oppose - Too inexperienced. Paul August 04:18, 9 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  25. Oppose. Track record too short.-- ragesoss 04:34, 9 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  26. Oppose. Experience (lack of). novacatz 04:55, 9 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  27. Oppose, agree with Batmanand. 青い(Aoi) 05:04, 9 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  28. Oppose, not enough experience at this time. -- Muchness 05:39, 9 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  29. Oppose. I don't know you, but wish you the best. Ëvilphoenix Burn! 05:45, 9 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  30. Oppose Hamster Sandwich 06:02, 9 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  31. Oppose -- cj | talk 06:02, 9 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  32. Oppose. android 79 06:07, 9 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  33. Oppose. Inexperience issues. Sjakkalle (Check!) 07:11, 9 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  34. Oppose. - Tim Rhymeless (Er...let's shimmy) 07:29, 9 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  35. Oppose. -- RobertGtalk 11:57, 9 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  36. Nightstallion (?) 12:39, 9 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  37. Oppose Meekohi 13:19, 9 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  38. Oppose sorry but I must oppose.   ALKIVAR 13:28, 9 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  39. opposeDunc| 14:07, 9 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  40. oppose.  Grue  14:21, 9 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  41. Oppose, xp. R adiant _>|< 14:27, 9 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  42. Oppose. -- Viriditas 15:09, 9 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  43. Oppose, lack of experience. the wub "?!" RFR - a good idea? 17:31, 9 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  44. Oppose. Needs experience. There are too many ropes around here for a newbie to be able to efficiently pull them all.— Ëzhiki (erinaceus amurensis) 17:47, 9 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  45. Oppose Donar Reiskoffer 20:26, 9 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  46. Oppose. Quarl ( talk) 2006-01-09 21:32 Z
  47. Oppose - Too new. Awolf002 22:19, 9 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  48. Oppose per above. Elle vécu heureuse à jamais ( Be eudaimonic!) 22:26, 9 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  49. Splash talk 23:16, 9 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  50. Oppose. Too new to be familiar enough with policy, etc. H e rmione 1980 23:41, 9 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  51. Oppose. Andrew_pmk | Talk 02:25, 10 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  52. olderwiser 03:01, 10 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  53. Oppose too new. Herostratus 03:34, 10 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  54. Oppose. Fuzzy bunny candidate statement. Fifelfoo 05:33, 10 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  55. Oppose. Several whats? Avriette 07:10, 10 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  56. Raven4x4x 08:39, 10 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  57. E Pluribus Anthony | talk | 13:02, 10 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  58. Oppose. not enough of a track record. # Oppose: lack of experience, and also the arbcom must be under some pressure: it has to be accountable to everyone here, rather than above and beyond. —— It's-is-not-a-genitive 14:22, 10 January 2006 (UTC). reply
  59. Oppose, too new. HGB 19:26, 10 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  60. Oppose, lack of experience. Prodego talk 20:38, 10 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  61. Oppose, needs more experience. -- PTSE 21:55, 10 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  62. Oppose. User's first edit is December 22, 2005. You can't learn enough about the wikipedia community in less than a month! Dr. Cash 01:05, 11 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  63. Oppose. (Note: Vote only reflects suitability of candidate to the role, and does not reflect overall contributions or personally.) - Mailer Diablo 02:14, 11 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  64. Oppose. enochlau ( talk) 05:38, 11 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  65. Oppose, inexperience.-- Srleffler 06:26, 11 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  66. Oppose. -- Masssiveego 07:48, 11 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  67. Oppose. Not enough experince.-- JK the unwise 12:24, 11 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  68. - Vote Signed By: Chazz- Place comments here
  69. Oppose. looking for a long-term relationship -- JWSchmidt 21:14, 11 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  70. OpposeAB C D e 18:58, 12 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  71. Oppose, inexperienced. Sorry. — Ian Manka Questions? Talk to me! 20:33, 12 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  72. Oppose - inexperienced. -- NorkNork 21:35, 12 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  73. Oppose -- Schaefer 10:10, 13 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  74. Krash 18:05, 13 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  75. Oppose - nothing personal, but you are inexperienced. Compu te r Jo e 20:13, 13 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  76. Oppose, inexperienced, and I'm looking for an actioner, not a lurker -- Francs 2000 00:02, 14 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  77. Oppose Deckiller 01:20, 14 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  78. Oppose. Don't feel like your statement brings much to the table. Velvetsmog 01:50, 14 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  79. Oppose. Inexperience -- Aude ( talk | contribs) 05:37, 14 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  80. Oppose. I'm all for fresh faces, but user doesn't demonstrate enough understanding of what makes Wikipedia work. -- William Pietri 22:38, 14 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  81. Oppose. Sarah Ewart 03:38, 15 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  82. -- Boothy443 | trácht ar 06:03, 15 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  83. Oppose Could not possibly understand all of Wikipedia's policies with such little experience. – Comics ( Talk) 08:33, 15 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  84. Oppose. Preaky 02:29, 16 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  85. Oppose. Does not have suffrage in this election. Superm401 | Talk 03:10, 16 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  86. Oppose. XP -- Masonpatriot 06:44, 16 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  87. Oppose. -- Adrian Buehlmann 09:14, 17 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  88. Insufficient experience. Ingoolemo  talk 00:14, 18 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  89. Oppose -- Loopy e 20:31, 19 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  90. Bratsche talk | Esperanza 05:26, 20 January 2006 (UTC) reply
    Oppose. Hastiness in arbitration doesn't appeal to me. Time needed for deliberations. Author782 08:15, 20 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  91. Oppose Flcelloguy ( A note?) 02:12, 22 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  92. Oppose. Good statement, but too inexperienced. — Josiah Rowe ( talkcontribs) 08:05, 22 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  93. Oppose KTC 12:33, 22 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  94. Oppose Alex43223 20:04, 22 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  95. Oppose Not enough experience yet. -- Spondoolicks 22:04, 22 January 2006 (UTC) reply
  96. Oppose CDThieme 23:31, 22 January 2006 (UTC) reply

Neutral

  1. Neutral. Not going to heap it on. Youngamerican 18:44, 16 January 2006 (UTC) reply

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