This candidate has withdrawn from the race; please do not vote. This page is kept primarily for historical reasons. Thank you!
Statement
After being involved in having arbitration being brought up against me and my involvement in two other arbitration cases, as well as enforcement of past decisions, I know I am well versed in the process and procedures of arbitration. My biggest concern is a desire to see an improvement in the decision making timeline. I don't see anything as broken with the system, but will always be open to changes suggested by anyone, and will be more than happy to forward all reasonable requests to fellow arbitrators and the foundation. I have over 20,000 edits with 11,000 or so of those in wiki article space, four featured articles I either started or assisted on as well as another 200 plus other article starts. I am a strong defender of precedent and policy, demand heavily on the use of reliable sources and oppose attempts to misuse Wikipedia as a platform for advocacy. I will always recuse myself in cases I have a conflict of interest in, will be completely open to recall/review and demonstrate complete transparency in my edits, as I always have. Most of all, I want to ensure that those editors and issues which are problematic to ensuring we create the world's most reliable encyclopedic source are dealt with swiftly and fairly. Thank you for your time.
Support, I trust his judgement and his answers on the 100k+ question page. Every one has a POV, he stated he will recuse himself if there is a conflict of interest. --
Dual Freq03:28, 4 December 2006 (UTC)reply
Not generic. Arbcom doesn't need members who will blindly follow the rules. I believe he will make good judgements. Also as per Dual Freq --
snowolfD4(
talk /
@ )06:44, 4 December 2006 (UTC)reply
Support. Cautiously, since I have at times been in pretty strong disagreement with MONGO's actions. But judgement is sound in general and I think that people who would put up with the E.D. harrasment crap as well as MONGO did are few and far between.
Sjakkalle(Check!)07:46, 4 December 2006 (UTC)reply
Support. I think he will have a uniquely relevant perspective and sympathy for besieged users. That seems like a good thing to have on ArbCom to me. —
Doug Belltalk07:54, 4 December 2006 (UTC)reply
Support per Sjakkalle (second sentence) and Doug Bell. Also, MONGO was helpful and sympathetic to harassment victims before he was harassed himself. Those who find him too "controversial" might suddenly find themselves "controversial" if they became victims of the kind of abuse MONGO has had to put up with. The ED problems on Wikipedia would never have reached those proportions if other WIkipedians had given him the support they should have; and in all other matters (e.g. dealing with sockpuppets), he's been civil and fair.
AnnH♫10:13, 4 December 2006 (UTC)reply
--
Zleitzen10:14, 4 December 2006 (UTC) Providing MONGO recuses himself of topics which he feels passionate about, his ability to cut through the crap could be a major benefit.reply
Strong support - knows the difference between a troll and someone just venting off. Knows that admins can sometimes be abusive (even if unintentionately). --
Sugaar11:04, 4 December 2006 (UTC)reply
Strong support I couldn't have said it any better than AnnH. He uses good judgment in his interactions with others. Experienced and mature. --
rogerd11:57, 4 December 2006 (UTC)reply
Support Despite our off-wiki POV differences, I have found MONGO consistently of sound judgment. I do trust him to recuse where necessary. Although he didn't act perfectly, I can't hold the ED stuff against him (exceptional circumstance not of his own making, per AnnH.) I do think he would bring a valuable perspective to the committee.
Xoloz17:17, 4 December 2006 (UTC)reply
Strong support. MONGO is more concerned with WP than with political correctness. He can detect BS from 10 miles through a snowstorm. If a thin-skinned obsession with "civility" is more important than protecting WP from destructive behavior, the project inevitably will collapse.
Raymond Arritt03:07, 5 December 2006 (UTC)reply
Strong oppose. Consistently incivil, consistently abuses the tools he has, and is incapable of resolving his own conflicts with users properly, making me wonder why he feels he can resolve the conflicts of others. --
badlydrawnjefftalk00:21, 4 December 2006 (UTC)reply
Nothing personal, but I can't say I'm enamoured with the idea of arbitrator recall, for much the same reason that I dislike administrator recall, except stronger. The power entrusted to arbitrators is great, and I'm not particularly comfortable with the idea of an arbitrator that can be recalled.
theProject00:22, 4 December 2006 (UTC)reply
Prior conflicts are too significant to warrant support. Also proposes arbitrator recall, an idea that can only serve to compromise decision making. --
bainer (
talk)
01:05, 4 December 2006 (UTC)reply
Holding to a policy that recent ArbCom dispute participants are automatic oppose-votes at this time. Opposing without prejudice towards a future election.
Serpent's Choice03:56, 4 December 2006 (UTC)reply
Absoutely not, way to many controversies surrounding this user to make him part of the final process of decision making here on Wikipedia. semper fi —
Moe05:38, 4 December 2006 (UTC)reply
Strongly oppose. It has been my experience that this user uses moderator powers in highly questionable ways, puts his POV before policy, and is consistently incivil to those he disagrees with. He is perhaps the worst possible candidate on Wikipedia for the ArbCom. --
Hyperbole06:05, 4 December 2006 (UTC)reply
Oppose MONGO needs to block way more editors than the drawn out arbitration process provides for. Imagine if all those whacky conpsiracy nuts needed ArbCom before being banned indefinitely? It's better that MONGO blocks them and lets them appeal his actions than having to wait for the ArbCom to create a block. Telegrams from MONGO should be delivered immediately, not delayed. --
Tbeatty 06:06, 4 December 2006 (UTC) Change to Support per Anomo --
Tbeatty18:00, 4 December 2006 (UTC)reply
Oppose -- from interactions, user's aim appears to be advancement of personal goals/beliefs as opposed to the greater good of the project. Short tempered. ·
XP ·
14:14, 4 December 2006 (UTC)reply
Oppose In the questions, he shows dishonesty, pretends not to know what homeland security is (when he said he worked there and everyone in the USA knows what it is), then makes a joke about it by the standard military denial procedures--he later claimed never to have worked for the military, then falsely claims USDHS is not homeland security, when proven wrong he claims not to work there which give dates that conflict the dates he said he worked there and it's unlikely he'd quit right after he made that statement. Also his answer to "Question from Sugaar" was hypocritical. Also MONGO always gets too personally involved in things (see his first request for comment and his request for arbitration) so would be unlikely to recuse himself if he had personal bias in an arbitration issue. (let's assume new paragraph) He also constantly feeds trolls instead of ignoring them. Before he came to the Encyclopedia Dramatica article, there was almost no trolling there--just stuff easily ignored and things other admins quickly fixed. But MONGO comes in and provokes the trolls, bans innocent people, and basically creates massive disruption and ever since there's been nothing but disruption stemming from this.
Anomo15:04, 4 December 2006 (UTC)reply
Strong Oppose - While I don't question Mongo's status and ability as an administrator, over the course of his stay here he has demonstrated some qualities that while forgivable in an administrator, are not something we, or I at least, want in an Arbitrator. Arbitrators are expected to act in an objective manner, and Mongo's frequent clashes with uses have shown him to be anything but objective. As well, I firmly believe anyone subject to Arbitration remedies should not be considered for Abitrator. ✎ Wizardry Dragon(
Talk to Me) (
My Contributions) (
Support Neutrality on Wikipedia)22:17, 4 December 2006 (UTC)reply
Oppose. Mongo is often praised for his BS detector, which is essentially a bad faith detector. But how accurate is his sense of BS? Some might say that no BS ever gets by him. But since the null hypothesis is
WP:AGF the interesting statistical error is that of
false positives, i.e., cases where Mongo incorrectly rejects the hypothesis of good faith (calling BS where no BS is involved). This is especially important given the rhetorical and administrative license his verdict of BS seems to imply for him. Mongo is clearly more interested in punishing the guilty than protecting the innocent. He is more interested in the omelette than the eggs.--
Thomas Basboll08:31, 5 December 2006 (UTC)reply
This candidate has withdrawn from the race; please do not vote. This page is kept primarily for historical reasons. Thank you!
Statement
After being involved in having arbitration being brought up against me and my involvement in two other arbitration cases, as well as enforcement of past decisions, I know I am well versed in the process and procedures of arbitration. My biggest concern is a desire to see an improvement in the decision making timeline. I don't see anything as broken with the system, but will always be open to changes suggested by anyone, and will be more than happy to forward all reasonable requests to fellow arbitrators and the foundation. I have over 20,000 edits with 11,000 or so of those in wiki article space, four featured articles I either started or assisted on as well as another 200 plus other article starts. I am a strong defender of precedent and policy, demand heavily on the use of reliable sources and oppose attempts to misuse Wikipedia as a platform for advocacy. I will always recuse myself in cases I have a conflict of interest in, will be completely open to recall/review and demonstrate complete transparency in my edits, as I always have. Most of all, I want to ensure that those editors and issues which are problematic to ensuring we create the world's most reliable encyclopedic source are dealt with swiftly and fairly. Thank you for your time.
Support, I trust his judgement and his answers on the 100k+ question page. Every one has a POV, he stated he will recuse himself if there is a conflict of interest. --
Dual Freq03:28, 4 December 2006 (UTC)reply
Not generic. Arbcom doesn't need members who will blindly follow the rules. I believe he will make good judgements. Also as per Dual Freq --
snowolfD4(
talk /
@ )06:44, 4 December 2006 (UTC)reply
Support. Cautiously, since I have at times been in pretty strong disagreement with MONGO's actions. But judgement is sound in general and I think that people who would put up with the E.D. harrasment crap as well as MONGO did are few and far between.
Sjakkalle(Check!)07:46, 4 December 2006 (UTC)reply
Support. I think he will have a uniquely relevant perspective and sympathy for besieged users. That seems like a good thing to have on ArbCom to me. —
Doug Belltalk07:54, 4 December 2006 (UTC)reply
Support per Sjakkalle (second sentence) and Doug Bell. Also, MONGO was helpful and sympathetic to harassment victims before he was harassed himself. Those who find him too "controversial" might suddenly find themselves "controversial" if they became victims of the kind of abuse MONGO has had to put up with. The ED problems on Wikipedia would never have reached those proportions if other WIkipedians had given him the support they should have; and in all other matters (e.g. dealing with sockpuppets), he's been civil and fair.
AnnH♫10:13, 4 December 2006 (UTC)reply
--
Zleitzen10:14, 4 December 2006 (UTC) Providing MONGO recuses himself of topics which he feels passionate about, his ability to cut through the crap could be a major benefit.reply
Strong support - knows the difference between a troll and someone just venting off. Knows that admins can sometimes be abusive (even if unintentionately). --
Sugaar11:04, 4 December 2006 (UTC)reply
Strong support I couldn't have said it any better than AnnH. He uses good judgment in his interactions with others. Experienced and mature. --
rogerd11:57, 4 December 2006 (UTC)reply
Support Despite our off-wiki POV differences, I have found MONGO consistently of sound judgment. I do trust him to recuse where necessary. Although he didn't act perfectly, I can't hold the ED stuff against him (exceptional circumstance not of his own making, per AnnH.) I do think he would bring a valuable perspective to the committee.
Xoloz17:17, 4 December 2006 (UTC)reply
Strong support. MONGO is more concerned with WP than with political correctness. He can detect BS from 10 miles through a snowstorm. If a thin-skinned obsession with "civility" is more important than protecting WP from destructive behavior, the project inevitably will collapse.
Raymond Arritt03:07, 5 December 2006 (UTC)reply
Strong oppose. Consistently incivil, consistently abuses the tools he has, and is incapable of resolving his own conflicts with users properly, making me wonder why he feels he can resolve the conflicts of others. --
badlydrawnjefftalk00:21, 4 December 2006 (UTC)reply
Nothing personal, but I can't say I'm enamoured with the idea of arbitrator recall, for much the same reason that I dislike administrator recall, except stronger. The power entrusted to arbitrators is great, and I'm not particularly comfortable with the idea of an arbitrator that can be recalled.
theProject00:22, 4 December 2006 (UTC)reply
Prior conflicts are too significant to warrant support. Also proposes arbitrator recall, an idea that can only serve to compromise decision making. --
bainer (
talk)
01:05, 4 December 2006 (UTC)reply
Holding to a policy that recent ArbCom dispute participants are automatic oppose-votes at this time. Opposing without prejudice towards a future election.
Serpent's Choice03:56, 4 December 2006 (UTC)reply
Absoutely not, way to many controversies surrounding this user to make him part of the final process of decision making here on Wikipedia. semper fi —
Moe05:38, 4 December 2006 (UTC)reply
Strongly oppose. It has been my experience that this user uses moderator powers in highly questionable ways, puts his POV before policy, and is consistently incivil to those he disagrees with. He is perhaps the worst possible candidate on Wikipedia for the ArbCom. --
Hyperbole06:05, 4 December 2006 (UTC)reply
Oppose MONGO needs to block way more editors than the drawn out arbitration process provides for. Imagine if all those whacky conpsiracy nuts needed ArbCom before being banned indefinitely? It's better that MONGO blocks them and lets them appeal his actions than having to wait for the ArbCom to create a block. Telegrams from MONGO should be delivered immediately, not delayed. --
Tbeatty 06:06, 4 December 2006 (UTC) Change to Support per Anomo --
Tbeatty18:00, 4 December 2006 (UTC)reply
Oppose -- from interactions, user's aim appears to be advancement of personal goals/beliefs as opposed to the greater good of the project. Short tempered. ·
XP ·
14:14, 4 December 2006 (UTC)reply
Oppose In the questions, he shows dishonesty, pretends not to know what homeland security is (when he said he worked there and everyone in the USA knows what it is), then makes a joke about it by the standard military denial procedures--he later claimed never to have worked for the military, then falsely claims USDHS is not homeland security, when proven wrong he claims not to work there which give dates that conflict the dates he said he worked there and it's unlikely he'd quit right after he made that statement. Also his answer to "Question from Sugaar" was hypocritical. Also MONGO always gets too personally involved in things (see his first request for comment and his request for arbitration) so would be unlikely to recuse himself if he had personal bias in an arbitration issue. (let's assume new paragraph) He also constantly feeds trolls instead of ignoring them. Before he came to the Encyclopedia Dramatica article, there was almost no trolling there--just stuff easily ignored and things other admins quickly fixed. But MONGO comes in and provokes the trolls, bans innocent people, and basically creates massive disruption and ever since there's been nothing but disruption stemming from this.
Anomo15:04, 4 December 2006 (UTC)reply
Strong Oppose - While I don't question Mongo's status and ability as an administrator, over the course of his stay here he has demonstrated some qualities that while forgivable in an administrator, are not something we, or I at least, want in an Arbitrator. Arbitrators are expected to act in an objective manner, and Mongo's frequent clashes with uses have shown him to be anything but objective. As well, I firmly believe anyone subject to Arbitration remedies should not be considered for Abitrator. ✎ Wizardry Dragon(
Talk to Me) (
My Contributions) (
Support Neutrality on Wikipedia)22:17, 4 December 2006 (UTC)reply
Oppose. Mongo is often praised for his BS detector, which is essentially a bad faith detector. But how accurate is his sense of BS? Some might say that no BS ever gets by him. But since the null hypothesis is
WP:AGF the interesting statistical error is that of
false positives, i.e., cases where Mongo incorrectly rejects the hypothesis of good faith (calling BS where no BS is involved). This is especially important given the rhetorical and administrative license his verdict of BS seems to imply for him. Mongo is clearly more interested in punishing the guilty than protecting the innocent. He is more interested in the omelette than the eggs.--
Thomas Basboll08:31, 5 December 2006 (UTC)reply