Hi Zilch-nada, I saw you disagreed with my removal of the paragraph you added on said article. Could you please go to the talk page of the article to explain why you think the paragraph belongs? Thanks! Félix An ( talk) 01:21, 8 October 2023 (UTC)
Hi Zilch-nada, I've noticed you blanked a redirect, that isn't really the way delete it if you disagree with it. Instead, nominate it for deletion at WP:RfD. Just i yaya 00:09, 29 October 2023 (UTC)
- My bad. Thanks! Zilch-nada ( talk) 00:17, 29 October 2023 (UTC)
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But I accept your statement about not making the edit. It wasn't a baseless suggestion though as the intent of the IP's edit and yours was similar, removing sourced material about left-wing terrorism being a relatively minor issue with a bad edit summary - yours saying "changed dismissive, irrelevant wording" when you actually changed nothing but deleted a key statement. Doug Weller talk 07:40, 8 December 2023 (UTC)
Hi @ Zilch-nada:, you seem to be quite liberal in your use of language which belittles your fellow editors. Use of such language is hovering on the edges of what constitutes acceptable talk page behavior, and is generally viewed as unhelpful / non-constructive, especially when expressing differences in opinion. Please reconsider whether this is really necessary to get your point across. TucanHolmes ( talk) 18:02, 1 February 2024 (UTC)
I'm not sure I understand the reasoning behind your removal of "anarchist" in the description in the first sentence. You said "unnecessary labelizing," but I'm not sure what you meant. Do you mean "labelizing" to be derogatory? I think the anarchist ideas are crucial to the novel. Just saying "utopian" admits of capitalist utopias (Star Trek, pretty much), Leninist utopias, mystical or religious utopias (Orson Scott Card), etc. I'd be happy to be convinced, but so far I think what you changed disimproves the article. Briankharvey ( talk) 05:49, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
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— Sangdeboeuf ( talk) 22:54, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
You violated an edit restriction when you added material on Sarah Jeong's tweets. Accusing others of WP:OWNERSHIP behavior when they oppose your unilateral changes is extremely WP:UNCIVIL. Please retract your accusations. Thank you. — Sangdeboeuf ( talk) 22:57, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
- My bad, I didn't see the edit warning. But accusations are endless, so let's end this here. Zilch-nada ( talk) 01:03, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
Hi Zilch-nada, I'm writing to follow up on the discussion at Talk:Gender#Opening sentence - are "man" and "woman" genders? I have tried to respond to your comments and some of your questions, but the sheer volume of your comments seems to be approaching bludgeoning. And I wanted to mention I have made my responses about the article, but I do not plan to answer your repeated question because I do not think it is relevant to the article discussion. Thank you, Beccaynr ( talk) 02:08, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
- "To falsely accuse someone of bludgeoning is considered incivil, and should be avoided." What absolute nonsense; a mere excuse not to engage.
Zilch-nada (
talk) 02:10, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
- I think especially in contentious topic areas, it is not constructive to repeatedly ask a participant for their opinion on other articles
[1],
[2],
[3] during an article discussion. One of the reasons I left you a note on your user talk page is because you continued to ask the same question about other articles after I attempted to briefly return to the discussion.
Beccaynr (
talk) 04:33, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
- With respect, I was illustrating that the wikilink issue which was brought up was similar, in that concerns over the incoherence of wikilinks is also problems for other articles. My logic was that we should consider the reliablity and necessity of the sources, regardless of wikilinks, which is an external issue. Thanks, Zilch-nada ( talk) 04:35, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
- I.e. why keep bringing up the wikilink issue, as that's a problem for other articles? Zilch-nada ( talk) 20:14, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- I think especially in contentious topic areas, it is not constructive to repeatedly ask a participant for their opinion on other articles
[1],
[2],
[3] during an article discussion. One of the reasons I left you a note on your user talk page is because you continued to ask the same question about other articles after I attempted to briefly return to the discussion.
Beccaynr (
talk) 04:33, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a report involving you at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement regarding a possible violation of an Arbitration Committee decision. The thread is Zilch-nada. Thank you. JBL ( talk) 00:57, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
- Hey ZN. Just FYI, at AE you're supposed to keep all your comments, including replies to other editors, within your own section. You're also over the 500 word limit, so you may need to either trim or request an extension. You'll probably want to save some words for future replies.
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- "Save some words for future replies"; what do you mean?
Zilch-nada (
talk) 17:38, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
- I imagine uninvolved admins will eventually weigh in, and you may want to anticipate needing some words available to respond to them. Firefangledfeathers ( talk / contribs) 17:42, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
- This is a formal, logged warning to assume good faith and maintain civility in discussions. Additionally, if you find a discussion going in circles, and there is not a clear consensus for your position either seek dispute resolution or let the matter drop. Engaging in prolonged back and forths with multiple editors can easily slip from constructive discussion to unconstructive discussion, and then to disruption. ScottishFinnishRadish ( talk) 22:30, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
- "Save some words for future replies"; what do you mean?
Zilch-nada (
talk) 17:38, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
Hi Zilch-nada, I saw you disagreed with my removal of the paragraph you added on said article. Could you please go to the talk page of the article to explain why you think the paragraph belongs? Thanks! Félix An ( talk) 01:21, 8 October 2023 (UTC)
Hi Zilch-nada, I've noticed you blanked a redirect, that isn't really the way delete it if you disagree with it. Instead, nominate it for deletion at WP:RfD. Just i yaya 00:09, 29 October 2023 (UTC)
- My bad. Thanks! Zilch-nada ( talk) 00:17, 29 October 2023 (UTC)
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But I accept your statement about not making the edit. It wasn't a baseless suggestion though as the intent of the IP's edit and yours was similar, removing sourced material about left-wing terrorism being a relatively minor issue with a bad edit summary - yours saying "changed dismissive, irrelevant wording" when you actually changed nothing but deleted a key statement. Doug Weller talk 07:40, 8 December 2023 (UTC)
Hi @ Zilch-nada:, you seem to be quite liberal in your use of language which belittles your fellow editors. Use of such language is hovering on the edges of what constitutes acceptable talk page behavior, and is generally viewed as unhelpful / non-constructive, especially when expressing differences in opinion. Please reconsider whether this is really necessary to get your point across. TucanHolmes ( talk) 18:02, 1 February 2024 (UTC)
I'm not sure I understand the reasoning behind your removal of "anarchist" in the description in the first sentence. You said "unnecessary labelizing," but I'm not sure what you meant. Do you mean "labelizing" to be derogatory? I think the anarchist ideas are crucial to the novel. Just saying "utopian" admits of capitalist utopias (Star Trek, pretty much), Leninist utopias, mystical or religious utopias (Orson Scott Card), etc. I'd be happy to be convinced, but so far I think what you changed disimproves the article. Briankharvey ( talk) 05:49, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
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— Sangdeboeuf ( talk) 22:54, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
You violated an edit restriction when you added material on Sarah Jeong's tweets. Accusing others of WP:OWNERSHIP behavior when they oppose your unilateral changes is extremely WP:UNCIVIL. Please retract your accusations. Thank you. — Sangdeboeuf ( talk) 22:57, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
- My bad, I didn't see the edit warning. But accusations are endless, so let's end this here. Zilch-nada ( talk) 01:03, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
Hi Zilch-nada, I'm writing to follow up on the discussion at Talk:Gender#Opening sentence - are "man" and "woman" genders? I have tried to respond to your comments and some of your questions, but the sheer volume of your comments seems to be approaching bludgeoning. And I wanted to mention I have made my responses about the article, but I do not plan to answer your repeated question because I do not think it is relevant to the article discussion. Thank you, Beccaynr ( talk) 02:08, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
- "To falsely accuse someone of bludgeoning is considered incivil, and should be avoided." What absolute nonsense; a mere excuse not to engage.
Zilch-nada (
talk) 02:10, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
- I think especially in contentious topic areas, it is not constructive to repeatedly ask a participant for their opinion on other articles
[1],
[2],
[3] during an article discussion. One of the reasons I left you a note on your user talk page is because you continued to ask the same question about other articles after I attempted to briefly return to the discussion.
Beccaynr (
talk) 04:33, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
- With respect, I was illustrating that the wikilink issue which was brought up was similar, in that concerns over the incoherence of wikilinks is also problems for other articles. My logic was that we should consider the reliablity and necessity of the sources, regardless of wikilinks, which is an external issue. Thanks, Zilch-nada ( talk) 04:35, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
- I.e. why keep bringing up the wikilink issue, as that's a problem for other articles? Zilch-nada ( talk) 20:14, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- I think especially in contentious topic areas, it is not constructive to repeatedly ask a participant for their opinion on other articles
[1],
[2],
[3] during an article discussion. One of the reasons I left you a note on your user talk page is because you continued to ask the same question about other articles after I attempted to briefly return to the discussion.
Beccaynr (
talk) 04:33, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a report involving you at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement regarding a possible violation of an Arbitration Committee decision. The thread is Zilch-nada. Thank you. JBL ( talk) 00:57, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
- Hey ZN. Just FYI, at AE you're supposed to keep all your comments, including replies to other editors, within your own section. You're also over the 500 word limit, so you may need to either trim or request an extension. You'll probably want to save some words for future replies.
Firefangledfeathers (
talk /
contribs) 16:36, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
- "Save some words for future replies"; what do you mean?
Zilch-nada (
talk) 17:38, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
- I imagine uninvolved admins will eventually weigh in, and you may want to anticipate needing some words available to respond to them. Firefangledfeathers ( talk / contribs) 17:42, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
- This is a formal, logged warning to assume good faith and maintain civility in discussions. Additionally, if you find a discussion going in circles, and there is not a clear consensus for your position either seek dispute resolution or let the matter drop. Engaging in prolonged back and forths with multiple editors can easily slip from constructive discussion to unconstructive discussion, and then to disruption. ScottishFinnishRadish ( talk) 22:30, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
- "Save some words for future replies"; what do you mean?
Zilch-nada (
talk) 17:38, 16 March 2024 (UTC)