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User:Thesevenseas has been identified as an Awesome Wikipedian, and therefore, I've officially declared today as Thesevenseas's day! For being such a beautiful person and great Wikipedian, enjoy being the Star of the day, dear Thesevenseas! Peace, Rlevse 00:19, 5 January 2010 (UTC) A record of your Day will always be kept here.

For a userbox you can add to your userbox page, see User:Rlevse/Today/Happy Me Day! and my own userpage for a sample of how to use it. — Rlevse • Talk • 00:19, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the award Rlevse! Hope you had a good Christmas and New Year. Set Sail For The Seven Seas 294° 48' 15" NET 19:39, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

You may wish to update your service awards to Jimmy Wales with {{ SA-vanguardeditor}} (now the highest level). — the Man in Question (in question) 20:29, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

I guess so, and good job on the service award renovation. Set Sail For The Seven Seas 321° 54' 45" NET 21:27, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

I believe the redirect has already taken care of it. Set Sail For The Seven Seas 322° 53' 45" NET 21:31, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

It has not—he currently displays the second highest award due to the redirect. I'm sorry if I've bothered you ("…I guess so…"). — the Man in Question (in question) 21:45, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

It's fine, I don't get bothered that easily, after all I don't get comments here often enough! I probably just overlooked it. I'll have another look. Set Sail For The Seven Seas 327° 31' 45" NET 21:50, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

You were right! I clumsily overlooked it! Thanks for the note. Set Sail For The Seven Seas 329° 11' 15" NET 21:56, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

Thinking of service awards, I've created this template. It might be of interest to you. Set Sail For The Seven Seas 267° 30' 45" NET 17:50, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

Oh, that is awesome. Stick it on the service awards talk page—that should make a lot of people happy. — the Man in Question (in question) 20:33, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

Will do, though I'm surprised that an auto updating template like this hadn't already been created! Set Sail For The Seven Seas 310° 9' 15" NET 20:40, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for correcting me, Seven Seas. I'm surprised you noticed my sandbox page! All's good. Best, -- Discographer ( talk) 02:50, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

Your sandbox page was listed here (now here) as one of the file links, so I didn't really look that hard :). Also, the file is tagged for speedy deletion as a misspelt filename. It's surprising how many misspelt filenames there are lurking about! Set Sail For The Seven Seas 45° 46' 0" NET 03:03, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

Wait a minute...wrong correction! Oh yes, the template prefix isn't needed for the template namespace, which can come in mighty handy at times! Also thinking of templates and service awards, you may want to take a look at this template, which is designed to auto update with time. Set Sail For The Seven Seas 47° 55' 15" NET 03:11, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! I've noticed you work on a lot of templates (as I'm now aware that you're a member of the Templates Project team), and was curious as to what you think of the music discography templates I've created and worked on lately. Scroll through my contributions, if you will, and you'll see what I've done. I could always use good advice! Best, -- Discographer ( talk) 03:23, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

I am indeed a member of the Templates Project team. The templates you've created seem quite good, although you may want to consider adding "state=collapsed" as a parameter on some of the articles with these templates, especially if the articles are large. Set Sail For The Seven Seas 358° 23' 45" NET 23:53, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

Hello Thesevenseas, La Pianista has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling at someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Go on, smile! Cheers, and happy editing!
Smile at others by adding {{ subst:Smile}} to their talk page with a friendly message.

;) — La Pianista ^{♫ ♪ How's my driving?} 05:11, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

Thanks La Pianista, it's good to share smiles :) Set Sail For The Seven Seas 1° 11' 30" NET 00:04, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

Do I need a bot to activate the self-updating service award template? If not, how often does it update? I haven't seen it work yet on my page, and I hope you can help me. Thank you! Doc9871 ( talk) 08:33, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

No, you don't need a bot to use the self-updating service award template. The code behind the template will allow it to update itself as the date changes by comparing the input date to today's date and converting this into a length of time. It you want to see this in action, just change the date, edit and format values and you should see the template give a different award. Also, you may want to take a look at the code behind the template, although it's designed to be easier to look in a text editor. Hope this helps. Set Sail For The Seven Seas 193° 55' 30" NET 12:55, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! I appreciate the response, and it did help. Cheers! :> Doc9871 ( talk) 23:28, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

No problem, glad to see you got results. Set Sail For The Seven Seas 248° 49' 15" NET 16:35, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

Hi. I don't know what tool you are using these days, but it seems to have decided to remove all of the underscores from the external URLs while you were meaning to undo that vandalism at List of Nobel Peace Prize laureates‎. Could you check the settings? Thanks Celestra ( talk) 16:22, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

Ah yes, I forgot that external links need the underscores in order to function properly unlike the internal ones. It seems the tool changed all of them instead of just the internal ones. I'll remember that in future. Thanks. Set Sail For The Seven Seas 248° 36' 45" NET 16:34, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

Your recent edits to the Latlongmap template have introduced some errors on the meridian pages. The text underneath the maps now states, e.g. "Points on meridian 55° 0", rather than "55° east" or "55° west". Despite having created the template in the first place, I'm now thoroughly confused by how it works. Can you fix it please? Many thanks, and keep up the good work. Bazonka ( talk) 18:39, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, all looks fine now. Bazonka ( talk) 18:51, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

It seems I forgot part of the code while adding changes. Mind you, most of the template is untouched from when you last edited it, as seen here. I just added a few minor tweaks. Anyway, it's good to hear that template is showing up fine. Set Sail For The Seven Seas 288° 22' 0" NET 19:13, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

{{ talkback}} Heracles31 ( talk) 00:40, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

I put in (and edit) to the vanguard editor award in the service awards, and it seemed to mess the entire table up.I can't fix it. I'm sorry for the inconvinience, so can you?

Buggie111 ( talk) 17:58, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

I don't see how your edit messed the table up. It seems perfectly fine to me and the revision history shows no sign of messed up tables. Also, while no editor has reached 1000000 (or even 500000) edits, there are some bots that have. Hope this helps. Set Sail For The Seven Seas 317° 6' 30" NET 21:08, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

Ok, thanks.

Buggie111 ( talk) 21:41, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

Hey, thanks for the cat, also! :D

If you don't mind me asking, why are you using your edit count milestones on sending me templates? Just curious; it's flattering. :)

— La Pianista ^{♫ ♪} 00:23, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the Second Piano Concerto! I rather enjoyed listening to it. I'm not too sure about the edit count milestones bit though. I think it came out of nowhere! ;) Set Sail For The Seven Seas 239° 48' 15" NET 15:59, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

{{ talkback}} ( PMDrive1061)

Regarding rock, paper, and scissors, you can go to {{ MapleStory Versions content}} and edit there directly. OhanaUnited ^{Talk page} 02:49, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for the message but I think it is meant for Coldeye279 rather than me as seen here since all I did was fix the header. I'll drop a message at Coldeye279's talk page. Set Sail For The Seven Seas 212° 4' 0" NET 14:08, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

Facepalm That's what it happens when I edit Wikipedia while feeling sleepy. But thanks anyways. OhanaUnited ^{Talk page} 20:02, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

No problem, I guess someone ought to create Wikipedia:Don't edit while tired. :) Set Sail For The Seven Seas 340° 31' 0" NET 22:42, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

Hello. Before making potentially controversial edits, such as those you made to List of Dragon Ball characters, it is recommended that you discuss them first on the article's talk page. Otherwise, people might consider your edits to be vandalism. Thank you. Lord Sesshomaru ( talk • edits) 19:11, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

Hello!

I had removed them because with them the table looks ugly. See for yourself, the table with it is this, without it is this. Armbrust ^Talk _Contribs 22:07, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

Woah! That does not look good. Didn't see that one coming when I made that edit. I'll leave it as you left it then, but are you sure that both the extra text and the width caused the problem as opposed to just one of them? One final thing, I tried a different method of correcting the misalignment, if it cause problems again you can revert it. Thanks. Set Sail For The Seven Seas 12° 10' 15" NET 00:48, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

195.244.232.34 ( talk) 15:02, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

What's wrong with the higher quality version? Set Sail For The Seven Seas 278° 52' 0" NET 18:35, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

I think that only the small version is licensed. Where did you get the larger file from? Amada44 ( talk) 20:10, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

It was on Wikimedia Commons under the file name - krill.jpg. All I did was copy the file over to krill666.jpg and ask for the latter to be deleted. However, I will double check that. Set Sail For The Seven Seas 329° 17' 45" NET 21:57, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

any news? Amada44 ( talk) 20:39, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

I remember uploading a higher quality version to krill.jpg and then reverting it after seeing a previous revert, but I'm reasonably sure that there was a version of higher quality somewhere. It may have been on Wikipedia under the file name - krill.jpg as opposed to Wikimedia Commons. However, if the larger version is indeed not free, then feel free to revert it. Thanks. Set Sail For The Seven Seas 7° 37' 0" NET 00:30, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

okay thats fine, I'll tackle it. Amada44 ( talk) 11:37, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

 Done Thanks! Set Sail For The Seven Seas 338° 49' 0" NET 22:35, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

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{{ talkback}} PrincessofLlyr ( talk) 00:08, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

Thank's for that. The more time I spend here, the more I realize how little I know. I didn't even realize that I had all three of those things up there at the same time. I suppose that looked ostentatious to the point of ridiculousness, especially for a novice editor. Anyway, another editor was kind enough to help me when I screwed it up the first time. I tried to put the novice badge up there, and thought I was following the instructions correctly. Obviously I wasn't, as I somehow wound up with a master editor award. I figured it might be easier to put the book or the bar up there, and after numerous attempts, somehow wound up with three different ones, and not one of them correct. so for a while, I had just done away with all of them, in the interest of simplicty. That was when another editor was kind enough to fix it for me. I tried to look at what he did, hoping I could figure out what I had done wrong. I can only assume that it was at this point, that I somehow managed to ruin what he had fixed. Anyway, thanks again. Hopefully, I can get it right now. If not, I'll just leave the page blank, as I think I've managed to prove that I'm the last person deserving of awards. Mk5384 ( talk) 17:55, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

Don't be so hard on yourself. It can take a while to get the hang of template parameters. The reason you ended up with master editor award was because that was the default award that shows up on the template page. Basically, the stuff before the equals is the name of the parameter and the stuff after it is what it needs to be set to. Also, if you want to display the book form, just set the format parameter to 'book' by adding 'format=book' to the list of parameters. There is an example of this in the documentation, about half way down the page. Hope this helps. Set Sail For The Seven Seas 280° 25' 15" NET 18:41, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

Many thanks! Mk5384 ( talk) 00:36, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

No problem, if you need any more assistance, just drop a note here. Set Sail For The Seven Seas 31° 29' 30" NET 02:05, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

I noticed that as far as the service award goes, the edit count does not update unless I do it manually. I'm not sure if I still have it wrong? Is there a way to set it so that it does that automatically? Mk5384 ( talk) 07:48, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

Unfortunately, the edit count does need to updated manually. However, there is the possibility that it too will be self updating in the future. Hope this helps. Set Sail For The Seven Seas 322° 19' 0" NET 21:29, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

I figured as much, but I just wanted to make sure. Thanks again! Mk5384 ( talk) 07:15, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

No problem! It should be up and running as soon as the parser function is available. Hope this helps. Set Sail For The Seven Seas 263° 49' 45" NET 17:35, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

Er... My computer froze when I, out of curiosity, highlighted the... thing on your user page. What exactly was that? Bramble claw x 19:14, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

That was ASCII art, which is just a picture made out of keyboard characters. It was used to print pictures on old printers that could only print ASCII characters. Hope this helps. Set Sail For The Seven Seas 321° 41' 15" NET 21:26, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

Oh cool. I'll just remember not to highlight it next time. Bramble claw x 22:30, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

Ok, that sounds good, although I didn't think it would cause PCs to freeze up. I'm looking to redesign the page at some point anyway. Set Sail For The Seven Seas 2° 16' 0" NET 00:09, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

Thankyou for your wonderful smile! I was just wondering, did I do something to make you smile at me? Or were you just trying to spread the wikilove... Well, anyway, your smile made me very, very happy! I would have smiled back at you if I was more bold to do so. Well, I approve very much of your smile! Keep up such a good, affectionate personality! Belinda ♥ 02:49, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

No problem, it's always nice to smile! It's good to be bold around here as well, especially with smiles. I don't get that many smiles here, but the "thank you" messages are quite nice. :) Set Sail For The Seven Seas 338° 33' 15" NET 22:34, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

for your comment about the Madeleine image - but now it's been removed again as inappropriate. I'm off to read the discussion... Rothorpe ( talk) 22:03, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

It looks like it should be there after all according to the commons discussion and on top of that, the filename is misspelt! Set Sail For The Seven Seas 20° 37' 45" NET 01:22, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

Welcome to Wikipedia. Everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia. However, talk pages are meant to be a record of a discussion; deleting or editing legitimate comments is considered bad practice, even if you meant well. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. [ [1] Hell In A Bucket ( talk) 14:02, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

This was not a legitimate comment. Asking Jimbo Wales about his private life is really not appropriate. If he were to reply, he would probably say something along the lines of, "none of your business". I'm sure you can agree with this. After all, Jimbo gave this reply when asked about his religion. Also, this confirms that it is inappropriate, this gives the reason for the comment being there and this shows another user acting as I did, which you haven't reverted. Finally, could you avoid templating the regulars? We put a lot of hard work into building this project and are therefore worthy of a comment giving more explanation since our edits are more likely to be legitimate and require more discussion before a revert is made. Thanks. Set Sail For The Seven Seas 262° 59' 30" NET 17:31, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

Sorry I didn't see this before. I for one have justification for using templates. It is the DTTR bottom part. As you have asked nicely I will in the future avoid templating you. I do have reasons for reversing that, that isn't vandalsim and Jimbo can simply ignore if he wants. You aren't the censor for his page, no disrespect but Jimbo can handle these things. Hell In A Bucket ( talk) 18:21, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply. It's just that I found the question rather rude and it seems that if it were on an article page, it would violate the biography of living persons policy so its removal seemed justified. Also, I always find that templating can be a bit impersonal and doesn't really give much detail as to the reasoning for the reversion in the first place. Thanks. Set Sail For The Seven Seas 278° 3' 0" NET 18:32, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

Don't worry Thesevenseas - your removal was entirely legitimate. From Wikipedia:Talk page guidelines; "Editing – or even removing – others' comments is sometimes allowed, but you should exercise caution in doing so. Some examples of appropriately editing others' comments:..... Removing harmful posts, including personal attacks, trolling and vandalism." That post easily fitted into that category. Completely ignore what Hell in a Bucket said - he's been told in no uncertain terms that he issues inappropriate warnings like that again, he'll be blocked. He's shown to have little clue on the subject. I've already removed his twinkle because of abuse (he used twinkle to warn you with) - as I said, next time it's a block. Ryan Postlethwaite^{See the mess I've created or let's have banter} 21:49, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

Right...... WP:DTTR explicitly disallows this. Nice try Ryan. Hell In A Bucket ( talk) 23:55, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

Ello! Sorry if you get this question a lot, but I am curious how/what you use to stamp New Earth Time onto your signature - whether it's manually done or if you have something that helps with that. ^Avic enna _sis @ 18:08, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

Howdi there! Don't worry about that, you're the first! This is the code in the base template of my signature.

{{<includeonly>subst:</includeonly>#expr:((({{<includeonly>subst:</includeonly>#time:U}}/86400)*360) mod 360)}}° {{<includeonly>subst:</includeonly>#expr:(((({{<includeonly>subst:</includeonly>#time:U}}/86400)*360)*60) mod 60)}}' {{<includeonly>subst:</includeonly>#expr:((((({{<includeonly>subst:</includeonly>#time:U}}/86400)*360)*60)*60) mod 60)}}

It uses the time parser function to calculate New Earth Time. It's quite long, but it reduces in size when substituted. Hope this helps. Set Sail For The Seven Seas 278° 16' 45" NET 18:33, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! I always wondered how that was done. I am looking to do something similar using a different time format, and I think that this gives me some idea on how to do that. ^Avic enna _sis @ 18:43, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

Which format is that out of interest? Swatch Internet Time? Set Sail For The Seven Seas 282° 10' 30" NET 18:48, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

Actually, I was looking to find a way to display the current date per the Hebrew Calendar. There is something similar for other cultures, like the {{ Japanese year}}. There is even one for the Discordian calendar, {{ User:Alerante/ddate}}. ^Avic enna _sis @ 18:56, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

I took a look at the two templates and it looks like the Hebrew Calendar version will be a little tougher the Discordian calendar version since the Hebrew calendar doesn't align with the Gregorian Calendar. I also noticed that there's a connection with calculating the date of easter so the code in these templates might come in handy. Set Sail For The Seven Seas 288° 23' 0" NET 19:13, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

Yep. It looks like I have quite a challenge ahead of me... I may have to consult a mathematical genius... Wish me luck! Thanks for all the help. ^Avic enna _sis @ 19:35, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

Come to think of it, I do come under that category (ish) and I work with templates a lot so I may well be able to help out with the coding. Set Sail For The Seven Seas 298° 50' 0" NET 19:55, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

Any help you can provide or direct me to would be appreciated. ^Avic enna _sis @ 21:05, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

I'll give it a try. It'll probably take a while to complete though. I've had a look at the Hebrew Calendar and understand the adding of an extra month. However, I'm a little puzzled as to how to tell whether a year is deficient, regular or abundant. Set Sail For The Seven Seas 325° 45' 0" NET 21:43, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

I seem to have stumbled across this. It looks like it could be quite useful! Set Sail For The Seven Seas 328° 24' 30" NET 21:53, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

Again, no rush. I am not sure how much of a Linux/UNIX background you have, but there is an application out there called hebcal which is a CLI program that tells you the current date. (Similar to the aforementioned ddate.) In fact, it's used on hebcal.com. As I said, not sure of your background, so this may or may not help. ^Avic enna _sis @ 00:00, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

Actually I tend to find that other programs doing similar things aren't that helpful when making your own since they have a tendency to be overcomplicated in my opinion. The main thing here is to understand the mechanics of the Hebrew Calendar as translating it into template code afterwards should be straightforward. Set Sail For The Seven Seas 201° 53' 45" NET 13:27, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Good luck with that. Years' worth of time in Hebrew school and it still eludes me! Heh. Again, any help I can provide, feel free to ask. Also, since we now have two different discussions going on:

Hello. You have a new message at Avicennasis's talk page. ^Avic enna _sis @ 09:02, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

I think I'm nearly done with it, However, the next bits might take longer than I originally thought, so it may be a little longer before it is complete. Set Sail For The Seven Seas 252° 13' 15" NET 16:48, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the smile. I moved it here. -- I dream of horses If you reply here, please leave me a {{ Talkback}} message on my talk page. @ 02:04, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

No problem, it's alway's nice to smile :) Set Sail For The Seven Seas 247° 30' 45" NET 16:30, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

As you were kind enough to help me with this in the past, I was hoping that I could impose on you once again. You showed me how to get the dates straight for the novice editor ribbon, and I thought I had finally gotten it right. However, it was my impression that it would auto-update. As 3 months have past, and I have the required number of edits, I thought that it would switch to "apprentice editor". I'm fairly sure that I've managed to do something wrong yet again. Your help would be greatly appreciated. All the best- Mk5384 ( talk) 10:12, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Don't worry, there's nothing wrong, you just haven't made the time requirement yet. It should switch to "apprentice editor" by tommorrow. Hope this helps. Set Sail For The Seven Seas 230° 46' 0" NET 15:23, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

I see what it is now. Thanks again. Mk5384 ( talk) 16:50, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

No problem! :) Set Sail For The Seven Seas 266° 3' 15" NET 17:44, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Hey Thesevenseas. Thanks for the barnstar, the appreciation is welcome. Also, I often see you around, and think you do a great job here. Don't beat yourself up, you are a big help to the project, and I hope to see you back soon - Kingpin ¹³ ( talk) 21:06, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

Along the some lines, just sleep over it. It was no big deal, easily cleaned up, obviously only done with good intentions. More than that, actually, applying the new safesubst feature correctly is going to be a huge improvement to many templates, and that task can use all good template coders we have.
So I expect to see you editing again Monday at the latest. :)
Amalthea 21:18, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

Just echoing Kingpin13 and Amalthea. You are a good editor and very helpful to the project. Please don't let one misstep drive you away. ··· 日本穣 ^? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 21:33, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

Please don't retire; even big mistakes will be forgiven and forgotten in time so long as your intentions are good, and I dont think this was really that bad a mistake. — Soap — 00:12, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

echoing the above... I actually like the template alot; I just don't think it needed to be deployed on such a wide scale. Don't sweat this minor incident. – xeno ^talk 01:17, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

Absolutely agreed, considering I had a similar incident. Hope you come back soon—you don't need to retire because of this incident. — MC10 ( T• C• GB• L) 06:04, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

I just came over here to thank you for this. Now I find you have disappeared yourself, apparently due to some contretemps. I don't know what the problem, is, but if you're willing to acknowledge a mistake, you're ahead of a lot of editors here, for starters. Further, we've all screwed up in various ways. I've driven perfectly good editors from Wikipedia, been blocked, instigated wars, and what have you. And I'm still a perfectly good editor.

I would say that if you haven't singlehandedly driver one or more editors to actual suicide and/or attacked a building housing the servers with rocket or mortar fire such as to cause one or more casualties, you should go a lot easier on yourself. Herostratus ( talk) 21:04, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for all your messages. It's time I returned to editing again. :) Set Sail For The Seven Seas 323° 34' 30" NET 21:34, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

.. back, good to have you here. Ping me if you need anything :) - Kingpin ¹³ ( talk) 21:36, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the welcome! It's good to be back! Set Sail For The Seven Seas 348° 53' 0" NET 23:15, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

Hi 7,

I see you've worked on polar bulge. Per Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Astronomy#Polar bulge, I'm doubtful there is such a thing. Do you have any refs? — kwami ( talk) 01:28, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

Replied here. Set Sail For The Seven Seas 199° 51' 30" NET 13:19, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

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Replied. Set Sail For The Seven Seas 287° 6' 45" NET 19:08, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

Hello Thesevenseas, Sophie has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling at someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Go on, smile! Cheers, and happy editing!
Smile at others by adding {{ subst:Smile}} to their talk page with a friendly message.

Sophie ^{( Talk)} 08:46, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Replied. Set Sail For The Seven Seas 287° 12' 15" NET 19:08, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

...for the smile! It was very kind and I really appreciate it! :) With warm blessings, Classical Esther^♣ 05:02, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

for fixing the close. I'm so noob. (and the porta-sig strikes again!) :) {{ Sonia| ping| enlist}} 22:29, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

All I did really though was take a look an RFA closed by a bureaucrat and copy the format. However, it seems your not alone. Even the bureaucrats can't get it right first time. I ought to make a template or something that would standardise it. Set Sail For The Seven Seas 338° 22' 45" NET 22:33, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

Or, modify User:Tim Song/closeAFD.js to close RfAs... which would take a good deal of work. {{ Sonia| ping| enlist}} 22:58, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

I think the template should be a lot easier, since all it would involve is substituting a template and adding the final result as parameters. Anyway, I'm almost done on it, just keep checking this page. Set Sail For The Seven Seas 345° 35' 15" NET 23:02, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for fixing her mistakes there. I guided her through some of it but I missed what you corrected. I also asked Timotheus Canens about a script and he didn't think it was worth it but I'm glad you're helping here. Kevin Rutherford ( talk) 23:04, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

Actually I was meaning to something like this for quite a while, but I did quite get around to it. It should make thing a lot easier and a lot more standardised. Set Sail For The Seven Seas 348° 20' 30" NET 23:13, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

It's live now. Time to see the results. Set Sail For The Seven Seas 350° 51' 0" NET 23:23, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

Great! See you around. :) {{ Sonia| ping| enlist}} 01:06, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

Indeed, see you round! :D Set Sail For The Seven Seas 17° 13' 30" NET 01:08, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

When a test edit has been reverted by the same editor who made the edit, it is best to use {{ subst:uw-selfrevert}} rather than {{ subst:uw-vandalism1}}. Thanks. Set Sail For The Seven Seas 241° 3' 0" NET 16:04, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, I hadn't caught that it was a self-revert. I thought I had done it. Harry the Dog WOOF 19:16, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

No problem, I've seen that happen before where two people are reverting the same edit. The first person gets the revert through and the second person thinks they got their revert through since they don't get an edit conflict message and only find out that they've been beaten when they check the revision history. Also, I don't think the uw-selfrevert template is well known. Set Sail For The Seven Seas 291° 13' 30" NET 19:24, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

Revision user isn't really the viewing user, it's the user revising the page or the last user who revised the page. Moving that big note into an editnotice would make more sense (since your page just told me I am a dirty dog named Harry ;p). – xeno ^talk 19:22, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

Actually when I did this, I thought that by transcluding {{REVISIONUSER}} through another template, it would give the current user, but it seems I misunderstood and that it only works when there is no last user. However, it does come in useful as it tells me who been at my talk page leaving messages. I guess that would make {{VIEWINGUSER}} redundant. In fact, it could probably be deleted. Set Sail For The Seven Seas 294° 6' 45" NET 19:36, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

That was my next suggestion =) On an unrelated note, your signature is too long, it should be 255 characters or less in the wikitext. – xeno ^talk 19:43, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

I've been struggling a little with that one. Ideally, I'd have wanted my signature to have this code.

'''<span style="font-family:garamond;white-space:nowrap;color:Blue">[[User:Thesevenseas|Set Sail]] [[User talk:Thesevenseas|For The]] [[Special:Contributions/Thesevenseas|Seven Seas]] [[New Earth Time|000° 00' 00" NET]]</span>'''

However, the colour doesn't work with this for some reason. Set Sail For The Seven Seas 299° 9' 0" NET 19:56, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

Yea, I've run into that as well. I think the reason is MediaWiki sets the colour for links, thus you need to put the color statements inside the pipe. – xeno ^talk 20:00, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

The problem in my case though is that this extends the length from 230 characters to 358 characters. However this code

<span style="color:black">[[User:Thesevenseas|Thesevenseas]]</span>

gives

Thesevenseas

but this code

[[User:Thesevenseas|<span style="color:red;">Thesevenseas</span>]]

gives

Thesevenseas

and this code

<font color="red">[[User:Thesevenseas|Thesevenseas]] [[User:Thesevenseas|talk]]</font>

gives

Thesevenseas talk

So somehow it works using font tags when there is one link but it stops working for multiple links. So is there a way of getting around this so that the colour works across multiple links? Set Sail For The Seven Seas 304° 30' 15" NET 20:18, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

Not that I know of, unfortunately. And unfortunately this isn't a good enough reason to ignore the rule about signature length ;> Might I suggest the following?

'''<span style="font-family:garamond">[[User:Thesevenseas|<font color="MediumBlue">Set Sail</font>]] [[User talk:Thesevenseas|<font color="MediumBlue">For The</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Thesevenseas|<font color="MediumBlue">Seven Seas</font>]]

This unfortunately ditches the New Earth Time which does add a certain character to your signature. – xeno ^talk 20:29, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

I've had another thought. I could kick out the links to my userpage and the New Earth Time page giving

'''<span style="font-family:garamond;white-space:nowrap;">[[User talk:Thesevenseas|<span style="color:Blue">Set Sail For The</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Thesevenseas|<span style="color:Blue">Seven Seas 000° 00' 00" NET</span>]]</span>'''

which has 243 characters or kick out the contributions link giving

'''<span style="font-family:garamond;white-space:nowrap;">[[User talk:Thesevenseas|<span style="color:Blue">Set Sail For The</span>]] [[New Earth Time|<span style="color:Blue">Seven Seas 000° 00' 00" NET</span>]]</span>'''

which has 223 characters. Maybe this would work? Set Sail For The Seven Seas 308° 55' 0" NET 20:35, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

Looks good. Another trick users have come up with is having these doppelganger "acronym" accounts suchlike User:TSS and you would have redirects in there like User:TSS/1 which redirects to New Earth Time, what-have-you. This is a bit more complicated, of course. – xeno ^talk 20:40, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

That is a brilliant trick. It now looks like this

'''<span style="font-family:garamond;white-space:nowrap;">[[User:TSS|<span style="color:Blue">Set Sail For The</span>]] [[User talk:TSS|<span style="color:Blue">Seven Seas 000° 00' 00" NET</span>]]</span>'''

which has 208 characters. Maybe this would work? Set Sail For The Seven Seas 317° 25' 45" NET 21:09, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

Yep. You'd need to WP:USURP TSS though, or find an unused abbreviation. – xeno ^talk 21:16, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

I was able to find QI, but it will need usurpation here. I've filed the request. Set Sail For The Seven Seas 333° 6' 30" NET 22:12, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

Cool. Probably best to type your name in full on the first link, btw. – xeno ^talk 00:07, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

Ok, thanks for all your help! Set Sail For The Seven Seas 5° 24' 59" NET 00:21, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

You moved a page without consensus. Civil Twilight is a notable band. They deserve their own page. Civil Twilight the light doesn't deserve it's own page. -- Everyone Dies In the End ( talk) 21:51, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

Sure they do, but Civil Twilight is more commonly known as something to do with twilight rather than the band. Also, it is more than likely that the band was named after the phenomenon, hence the latter being the primary topic. It's exactly the same reason why the article Twilight is about the phenomena and not about the book of the film. I believe that the move was correct and uncontroversial, however if you disagree with this then I suggest we open a discussion on this. Can't say fairer than that. Thanks. Set Sail For The Seven Seas 329° 47' 30" NET 21:59, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

I clearly oppose the move. You shouldn't move a page that is controversial. I am not going to discuss if it's important or not on the talk page as that's not the place for it. I am requesting the page to be moved back and then we discuss it here Wikipedia:Requested moves. The way you should of done in the first place. That's the only point I am making here.-- Everyone Dies In the End ( talk) 22:04, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

Fine, but it wasn't controversial until you posted your first message on my talk page. However, if you are indeed right, then the article of the band should be at Civil Twilight. Thanks. Set Sail For The Seven Seas 336° 4' 30" NET 22:24, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

Actually, my page move was completely justified on two grounds.

1. This move was not controversial when I moved it as there was no record of controversy on any of the relevant talk pages.

2. Per BRD, this qualifies as a BOLD move.

Also, it makes more sense now to discuss the page move rather than reverting it first since this is now controversial, CSD G6 is only for non controversial issues and reverting will require an administrator. Thanks. Set Sail For The Seven Seas 234° 33' 45" NET 15:38, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

Look, wikipedia guidelines say that the last stable version should be used. That means the bands article stays at Civil Twilight. Why?? Because if we reach a no consensus the article should be at it's last stable version IE at Civil Twilight. Simple as that.-- Everyone Dies In the End ( talk) 16:46, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

One more thing, it was very clear that I wouldn't support this before you moved it. You were making redirects of a different capitalization to a subtopic. If I supported the Civil Twilight (band) I would of done it myself. -- Everyone Dies In the End ( talk) 16:56, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

A link to this guideline would be nice. Also, Wikipedia guidelines also state that the main title name should point to the primary topic, which in this case is Twilight. This phenomena is something that everyone has seen and can relate to as common knowledge. The only reason you've given is that the band is notable. The notability policy states that, "On Wikipedia, notability determines whether a topic merits its own article." This means the band gets an article. It doesn't say anything about disambiguation. If you want to move it back per BRD, fine but in my view it seems pointless since the results depends on the discussion and it will require administrator attention. Thanks. Set Sail For The Seven Seas 257° 24' 45" NET 17:09, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

I haven't said anything because I don't discuss stuff on talk pages. Simple as that. I refuse to do so. So stop trying to discuss this on the talk page. User talk page aren't meant for this. All I want is the last stable article to be restored so we can get consensus. -- Everyone Dies In the End ( talk) 17:24, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

Sorry and thank you! --[Old username redacted. (New username is Faust. TFOWR 08:49, 29 September 2010 (UTC)] 00:29, 2 July 2010 (UTC) Query: my renewed request keeps being removed. Why is this and how do I renew my request? I have left a message on the talk page a few days ago by now... --[Old username redacted. TFOWR 08:49, 29 September 2010 (UTC)] 12:50, 2 July 2010 (UTC) Aha, I just saw the note you lef on my talk page. Thanks again! --[Old username redacted. TFOWR 08:49, 29 September 2010 (UTC)] 12:51, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

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194.83.172.121 ( talk) 11:29, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

I don't understand what you mean. This edit has nothing to do with the two link you provided above. Thanks. Set Sail For The Seven Seas 207° 39' 30" NET 13:50, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

Do you mind updating Template:UserBanner/doc for me? I've made some changes to Template:UserBanner but I'm too lazy to update the documentation too. AirplanePro ^Radio _Checklist 23:23, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

No problem, but it might take a while since I'm a little busy at the moment. Set Sail For The Seven Seas 0° 50' 15" NET 00:03, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

 Done Set Sail For The Seven Seas 298° 49' 15" NET 19:55, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Hello, Thesevenseas. You have new messages at AirplanePro's talk page.
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

AirplanePro ^Radio _Checklist 22:51, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

I reverted your changes to this template (and to my user page). I left a note at Template talk:Cowsay explaining my actions. -- MZMcBride ( talk) 16:44, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

Replied at Cowsay. Set Sail For The Seven Seas 323° 53' 0" NET 21:35, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

It really isn't very user-friendly to change the title of your user and user talk pages. It makes it much more difficult to identify your user name and it makes it much more difficult to copy and paste the page titles for things like creating [[ internal links]]. Please consider removing the DISPLAYTITLE hack you're currently employing. -- MZMcBride ( talk) 16:46, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

Are you sure it's the DISPLAYTITLE rather than this user template? Since the effect of DISPLAYTITLE is invisible at the moment. After all, DISPLAYTITLE will not allow title changes. However, if it is indeed this user template that is causing you this inconvenience, I can remove it. Also, you may want to warn all the users on this list and put the page up for deletion. Hope this helps. Set Sail For The Seven Seas 326° 34' 30" NET 21:46, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

I'm not really sure why you (or anyone) is even using the {{ User:One/Title}} template. DISPLAYTITLE can be manipulated to hide the page title, which is what you appear to be doing. You can look at User:MZMcBride/Sandbox 7 right now to see the effect of using only DISPLAYTITLE. (For those of you reading this is in the page archives later, I'm referring to the 22:11, 23 July 2010 (UTC) revision, which doesn't work with permalinks or on page preview, apparently.) I don't really care if other people are using the template, but you should be aware that it presents real issues to real users. If you want to spread the Good Word to the other users of that template, feel free. You could also simplify the code at the top of your user / user talk pages, but again, it'd probably be better to simply remove it. At a minimum, you should probably create a redirect at User:Set Sail For The Seven Seas and its talk page (after registering them) if you intend to keep the title manipulated for an extended period. -- MZMcBride ( talk) 22:27, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

Excuse my misphrasing, what I meant was DISPLAYTITLE will not allow title manipulation. As you rightly mentioned, it does allow hiding. Well, thanks for your advice, since I wasn't aware that it would cause problems. I've made some changes, does this fix solve the problems? If not, I'll try something else. Thanks. Set Sail For The Seven Seas 338° 15' 15" NET 22:33, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

I might consider that second idea. Thanks for that. Set Sail For The Seven Seas 338° 34' 30" NET 22:34, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

{{ talkback}} 13:40, 25 July 2010 (UTC) {{ talkback}} 17:00, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

		The Builder Award
		This award shall be granted to User:Thesevenseas who has contributed to the realisation of unified user categories for the Wikipedia:Service awards. Mootros ( talk) 21:32, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

Yay, I got a barnstar! Set Sail For The Seven Seas 325° 20' 45" NET 21:41, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

		The Invisible Barnstar
		For your excellent work behind-the-scenes work cleaning up and updating the CHU and USURP instructional pages and templates, please accept this as a small token of my appreciation. Keep up the good work =) – xeno talk 15:21, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

Wow, thanks for the barnstar. That's now 2 barnstars in two days! Set Sail For The Seven Seas 231° 13' 15" NET 15:24, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for your work on this template. You know, I think it would be cleaner to have it more like we do we WP:CHU/S, such that we simply insert a transcluded template after substing Usurp, passing it the requisite parameters. Can you think of a reason not to employ this at WP:USURP? In this case, we could also install anchors for the old and new name which make it easier for me when requesting verification at other wikiae. (Of course, the anchors could still be installed, but that would increase the already bloated substed text). – xeno ^talk 15:47, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

That does sound like a good idea. I'll get on to that. Set Sail For The Seven Seas 276° 26' 15" NET 18:25, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

 Done Set Sail For The Seven Seas 220° 46' 29" NET 14:43, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Cool. Thank you for your attention to this. See Wikipedia talk:Changing username#Todo if you're looking for more work =). In particular I think we need some clearer instructions for SUL users, perhaps even some preloads. The vertical space taken up by the various preformatted examples of how to use the Usurp template is getting pretty large as well, we should try to clean that up somehow. – xeno ^talk 14:47, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

No problem, however I need an admin to move Usurp to Usurp1 and then Usurpmain to Usurp in order to finish the task, since Usurp is move protected. Thanks. Set Sail For The Seven Seas 224° 42' 45" NET 14:58, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the move. The last thing that remains now is to semiprotect Usurp then it should be complete and ready for use. Set Sail For The Seven Seas 228° 30' 0" NET 15:14, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

One more thing. Can you protect Usurp4‎? I forgot that one. Thanks. Set Sail For The Seven Seas 248° 39' 30" NET 16:34, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

^ all  Done. As an aside, I think it's slightly confusing to have User talk:QI be the thing that redirects to New Earth Time. Now that user:7seas is yours here, perhaps you could use that? (less characters anyway, User:QI would be OK as well but using the user talk page namespace is slightly off). – xeno ^talk 18:41, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

Come to think of it, that does make sense, I'll use User:QI for the redirect for now, but User:7seas is definitely a consideration. Thanks. Set Sail For The Seven Seas 283° 18' 0" NET 18:53, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

 Done Set Sail For The Seven Seas 284° 35' 0" NET 18:58, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

For what it's worth, you've removed elements from your signature so you don't even need short cuts from userspace anymore. (I think you already realized this) – xeno ^talk 18:00, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

I figured that since there is only an increase of 7 characters from User:QI to New Earth Time, it doesn't seem worth it. Also, it is more convenient to link to the article directly. Originally, I'd hoped to have been able to use User:QI and User talk:QI to be able to replace User:Thesevenseas and User talk:Thesevenseas in the signature links, but then SineBot adds the unsigned template next to the signature. Set Sail For The Seven Seas 272° 36' 0" NET 18:10, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

Yea, you need at least one link with your actual username. What about redirects from NET (time) or NE Time or something? – xeno ^talk 18:23, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

It's a possibility, but I'd only be saving 4 and 7 character respectively so I think I'll leave it as it is for now. Thanks. Set Sail For The Seven Seas 280° 12' 44" NET 18:40, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

Well, feel free to do as you like with my Sandbox page, as I'm really through with it. I didn't realise though that it attracted so much attention! Oh, good hearing from you again. Best, -- Discographer ( talk) 00:16, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the offer, but I have my own for that. You just need to makes sure you keep out the category links, otherwise your sandbox will end up listed in those categories. In fact, that's probably how it attracted so much attention! :O Set Sail For The Seven Seas 225° 31' 45" NET 15:02, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

You are invited to join the discussion at Templates for discussion. Mootros ( talk) 19:33, 2 August 2010 (UTC) (Using {{ Please see}})

Is it possible to expand Template:Gallery to 50 or 100 images?-- TonyTheTiger ( T/ C/ BIO/ WP:CHICAGO/ WP:FOUR) 21:29, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

 Done - Expanded Template:Gallery to 100 images. Hope this helps. Set Sail For The Seven Seas 326° 11' 15" NET 21:44, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

I've performed the edit you requested, but I'm not entirely sure that it's what you wanted. Would you please check the template to see if I did it rightly? I've also posted a request for aid at WP:HD; I'd appreciate it if you left a note there once you look over my changes. Nyttend ( talk) 01:42, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

I've performed the second editprotected request. One request for the future — when you're requesting a code change, could you simply copy/paste on the talk page the original code and the code you want to replace it? It's much easier if I can run a search function without having to bother with all the <code> tags and the {& # 1 2 3 ; [note that I had to add spaces because it displays as a brace even with nowiki tags!] bits where the original code has {{. If nothing else, you could just have nowiki tags before and after the entire text of the code. Nyttend ( talk) 12:55, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

OK, I'll remember that in future. Thanks. Set Sail For The Seven Seas 221° 6' 0" NET 14:44, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

Could I disagree with Nyttend here slightly. Talk pages are for discussion and putting chunks of code on them can make them quite cluttered. In my opinion, the best thing to do is to place proposed code on the template /sandbox and then link to it from the talk page. This is what I've just done at Template talk:Prod. Thanks — Martin ( MSGJ ·  talk) 18:56, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

The documentation for {{ Editprotected}} says that the template and proposed changes should be given on the talk page, so it's entirely appropriate for a template talk page to have the code placed on it. Nyttend ( talk) 19:21, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

Well, either way, the method I was using to display code was supposed to make it easier to see the changes and straightforward to copy and paste from the page itself rather than from the underlying wikitext. It seems it didn't work, so I'll try something simpler next time. Thanks. Set Sail For The Seven Seas 307° 20' 30" NET 20:29, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

I have just added a section to the documentation to explain this procedure: Template:Editprotected/doc#Requests for templates. The main benefit of using a sandbox of course is to test the code before changing the live template. — Martin ( MSGJ ·  talk) 12:15, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for your help with the edits on Template:Kitten‎ I was trying to make the template more like the other WikiLove templates ^_^ -- Wolfnix • Talk • 21:59, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

Wolfnix has given you a cookie! Cookies promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. You can Spread the "WikiLove" by giving someone else a cookie, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend.

To spread the goodness of cookies, you can add {{ subst:Cookie}} to someone's talk page with a friendly message, or eat this cookie on the giver's talk page with {{ subst:munch}}!

Thanks for the cookie! It's good when templates have a standard format. Set Sail For The Seven Seas 331° 29' 44" NET 22:05, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

for the smile, it brightened my day :) LovelyLillith ( talk) 23:10, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

I just noticed this edit. However, that gives three links to the same article, solstice. I think that as both the winter solstice and summer solstice are stand alone articles this might be clearer. With that solstice, winter solstice, summer solstice and Northern Hemisphere are all linked. At the same time is clarifies that the article talking about December (winter solstice) and June (summer solstice). Cheers. Enter CBW, waits for audience applause, not a sausage. 01:31, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

You do have a point. However, saying just Winter Solstice and Summer Solstice has an element of hemisphere bias with it, since one hemisphere's winter solstice is the other hemisphere's summer solstice and vice versa. Personally, I believe it's best to only use Winter Solstice and Summer Solstice when the topic is hemisphere independent, as is so with the Winter Solstice and Summer Solstice articles, otherwise, June Solstice and December Solstice. I have made a few changes to allow for the use of Winter Solstice and Summer Solstice nevertheless, you may want to review it. Thanks. Set Sail For The Seven Seas 209° 43' 0" NET 13:58, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

I just looked at a few minutes ago. Looks much better. Enter CBW, waits for audience applause, not a sausage. 14:04, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

The wording that is best to use depends on which 2 of the 4 variations of solstices is being referred to, as seen in the table below.

Table of solstices

	Summer Solstice	Winter Solstice	Northern Solstice	Southern Solstice	June Solstice	December Solstice
Northern Summer Solstice
Northern Winter Solstice
Southern Summer Solstice
Southern Winter Solstice

Here, June Solstice and December Solstice are the most common, Summer Solstice and Winter Solstice are used occasionally, while Northern Solstice and Southern Solstice are almost never used. This is why I made the change above. In my opinion, I would still prefer that June Solstice and December Solstice be used rather than Summer Solstice and Winter Solstice, but since this shouldn't be solely on my personal opinion, I will accept it like this. Thanks. Set Sail For The Seven Seas 244° 6' 30" NET 16:16, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

I'm happy with that as well. It did dawn on me that it could have been put as [[Winter solstice|June solstice]] or [[Winter solstice|December solstice]] as well. Enter CBW, waits for audience applause, not a sausage. 23:05, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

I think that could cause a bit of confusion. Well, it works as it is now so we can leave it at that. Thanks. Set Sail For The Seven Seas 348° 3' 15" NET 23:12, 12 September 2010 (UTC)