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Clemente

With all due respect, I don't see how you can possibly compare Legacy of George Washington and Legacy of Alan Turing with that of an athlete who gave to charity. That is false equivalence.

Additionally, I would not have added this page to Afd if I didn't think it was made in bad faith - the user lifted passages from sister links - and even then I did so after I tried to fix the many supposedly "reliable references" without links/urls in them.

(Note: I came here because the Afd was closed and you accused me wrong of "wikilawyering" which I was NOT and I wanted to defend myself.) Omnis Scientia ( talk) 10:21, 8 January 2024 (UTC)

And again, I mean this with all due respect. We disagree on whether this article is salavagable or not, basically. I think it is not and gave my reasons as to why. And I think, had WikiProject Baseball been involved, this page would have been deleted as an athlete's legacy is almost always what they did on the field and little of anything else - unless that other thing is a big deal - i.e. Clemente's tragic death (already covered in a seperate article), Pete Rose's betting and ban, etc. Omnis Scientia ( talk) 10:37, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
As you can see on the AfD page, I struck the "wikilawyering" text. At any rate, you have a right to your opinions about this article and everyone else does too. Essentially, no harm is done to the Wikipedia for an article that needs work to exist. Since the subject is viable, and likely plenty WP:RS exists, it can gradually be brought up to snuff. My comparison to other legacy articles is simply that "Legacy of..." articles exist - it wasn't to compare the legacies themselves.
It seems overall you wish for a different outcome because you believe you're right and others are wrong. Welcome to the club. We all go through that from time to time. Any number of things have happened here that I've objected to. But we have a process. And I respect the process. If the AfD had gone the other way, I would have disagreed with it, but realized that the process was reasonable and respected the result. Stefen Towers among the rest! GabGruntwerk 18:26, 8 January 2024 (UTC)

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I wanna say " Gimme a Break! with this nothingburger" in particular situations here. I obviously won't do that so as to cover my butt. Heh. Stefen Towers among the rest! GabGruntwerk 15:51, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

Just a word

Hello there! As you know, I blanked and redirected the page which you have restored - as is my right under the rules - and I also did so after determining that there is not enough information on Clemente's legacy, nothing specific. I did not do it because I wanted to (as you seem to imply). You know I would not do so otherwise.

There is simply not enough/very little on Clemente's legacy to justify a seperate article. Please, be reasonable here and just redirect this page to the main article. Omnis Scientia ( talk) 18:47, 8 February 2024 (UTC)

I have seen no evidence of research on this article beyond your claims of having done so. What I can see with my eyes is your deleting out of the article part by part after not getting a result you desired in the previous AfD per an apparent WP:POINT exercise. What I expected is a combination of adding material and subtracting material to right-size the article. For a time, I assumed good faith that you were engaging in right-sizing, but at the end, all that appears is that you just wanted to delete it all. Per that and we have a community process that decided to keep the article, I am being wiki-reasonable on this. There is no harm to the Wikipedia in keeping this article around while, eventually, other editors may seek to improve it. Stefen Towers among the rest! GabGruntwerk 18:55, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
Well, I removed the quotes and added a link to wikiquote from where the quotes were. And I removed incorrect information. That was indeed in good faith. Omnis Scientia ( talk) 19:00, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
Perhaps a lot of the deletions were within reason and done in good faith, but the community decided to keep the article as a whole. Please let that stand. After a considerable period of time, if the article hasn't significantly improved, you can try a second AfD. We need to stick to the community processes and not engage in disruptive practices. Stefen Towers among the rest! GabGruntwerk 19:05, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
Very well. I will let it go. But believe me when I say that I did do my own research. Mainly SABR articles and re-reading the go-to biography on Clemente. Of course, due to limitations, I couldn't given them in the page summary itself. Omnis Scientia ( talk) 19:08, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
I also want to add the blank and redirect to Clemente's "Honors and legacy" section in the main was also done in good faith. I just believed that section has more reliable sources and is more detailed, though it has more to do with his honors - i.e. Hall of Fame and so on - than his legacy (I hope that make sense). Omnis Scientia ( talk) 19:18, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
There is no reason why reliable sources cannot be copied over to the legacy subarticle, which is normally expected to go into deeper detail than the main article. The legacy subarticle can be developed to provide greater detail than the main one, while the main can summarize. And this would naturally mean that content and its sources are copied over. There seems to be an insistence from you that the main article have all the content related to this sub-subject, and I don't understand where that comes from. We regularly spin off content into subarticles here at the Wikipedia, so as to take a deeper dive into something. I'd rather not get a sense that a subarticle is being starved to make a point, but that's how it seems in this case. Stefen Towers among the rest! GabGruntwerk 19:35, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
That particular section mostly about the Halls of Fame he has been elected to and baseball awards and honors he has been given, not about his legacy as a Puerto Rican icon and his charitable stuff, and most of the info on him being Puerto Rican is about the discrimination he faced while playing in America or about him playing in the Puerto Rican Professional Baseball League (and his personal life, of course). Omnis Scientia ( talk) 19:43, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
Depending on the honor, they can be a part of one's legacy. At any rate, my statement you are replying to is a general point that it's the normal way in the Wikipedia to do deeper dives in subarticles while summarizing the sub-subject in the main, and we shouldn't be starving the legacy article unnecessarily. Stefen Towers among the rest! GabGruntwerk 19:51, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
I'll check it out. I'll also ask a few older participants in WikiProject Baseball if they can help out since they tend know more about baseball subarticles. Omnis Scientia ( talk) 20:00, 8 February 2024 (UTC)

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Albums recorded in Louisville, Kentucky

I understand that Middletown is in the Louisville metro area but the category scheme for Category:Live albums recorded in Louisville, Kentucky is set up for venues located in Louisville that have their own subcategories and not just any album recorded in Louisville. That's why the category has the {{ Container category}} template on it. Thank you. Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars Talk to me 04:27, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

I don't see why it has to be a container category. I don't see any damage from it not being one. Stefen Towers among the rest! GabGruntwerk 04:54, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
As a compromise I created Category:Albums recorded at Southeast Christian Church, although it really shouldn't exist because it's not a notable venue as I assume it is not a place where a lot of live albums have been recorded. The reason the city categories are container categories is because an album recorded in any particular city in and of itself is not a defining quality of the album because it was recorded in Los Angeles or New York City or Louisville, as it really doesn't make any difference. It can be defining based on the venue in which the album was recorded, if such venue is itself notable, and the city categories were developed/created to serve as parents of those venue categories for easier navigation. Thanks again. Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars Talk to me 06:20, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
That's all fine, and if that's the way it needs to be, it's not a bad solution. :) By the way, Southeast Christian Church is the largest church in the Louisville area and as of 2019, the 4th largest in the U.S. (per the article), so there's that. Stefen Towers among the rest! GabGruntwerk 06:26, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
It's all good. I'm certainly not saying the church isn't notable, just not as sure it is as a musical venue. 06:40, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

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We'll leave it capped. Every once in a while, I overindulge the typo fix suggestion – it's not always right. If you believe this is a significant typo fixing problem, perhaps bring this up as a topic at WT:AWB/T. Stefen Towers among the rest! GabGruntwerk 15:54, 14 March 2024 (UTC)

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Thank you kindly for the invite. I have joined. Stefen Towers among the rest! GabGruntwerk 00:20, 21 March 2024 (UTC)

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Thank you. Yup, it's been 20 years of correcting other editors' typos and removing uncited material, and well, doing some actual contributions of my own. Heh. Hopefully, my presence has been more constructive than not. Stefen Towers among the rest! GabGruntwerk 03:05, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
Wow, congrats on 20 years! Every edit and contribution to the encyclopedia you have made over the years is so important and you have made such a positive impact on this community. Thank you! -- ARose Wolf 13:59, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
Thank you for the kind words. On to the next 20. :) Stefen Towers among the rest! GabGruntwerk 00:23, 21 March 2024 (UTC)

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Clemente

With all due respect, I don't see how you can possibly compare Legacy of George Washington and Legacy of Alan Turing with that of an athlete who gave to charity. That is false equivalence.

Additionally, I would not have added this page to Afd if I didn't think it was made in bad faith - the user lifted passages from sister links - and even then I did so after I tried to fix the many supposedly "reliable references" without links/urls in them.

(Note: I came here because the Afd was closed and you accused me wrong of "wikilawyering" which I was NOT and I wanted to defend myself.) Omnis Scientia ( talk) 10:21, 8 January 2024 (UTC)

And again, I mean this with all due respect. We disagree on whether this article is salavagable or not, basically. I think it is not and gave my reasons as to why. And I think, had WikiProject Baseball been involved, this page would have been deleted as an athlete's legacy is almost always what they did on the field and little of anything else - unless that other thing is a big deal - i.e. Clemente's tragic death (already covered in a seperate article), Pete Rose's betting and ban, etc. Omnis Scientia ( talk) 10:37, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
As you can see on the AfD page, I struck the "wikilawyering" text. At any rate, you have a right to your opinions about this article and everyone else does too. Essentially, no harm is done to the Wikipedia for an article that needs work to exist. Since the subject is viable, and likely plenty WP:RS exists, it can gradually be brought up to snuff. My comparison to other legacy articles is simply that "Legacy of..." articles exist - it wasn't to compare the legacies themselves.
It seems overall you wish for a different outcome because you believe you're right and others are wrong. Welcome to the club. We all go through that from time to time. Any number of things have happened here that I've objected to. But we have a process. And I respect the process. If the AfD had gone the other way, I would have disagreed with it, but realized that the process was reasonable and respected the result. Stefen Towers among the rest! GabGruntwerk 18:26, 8 January 2024 (UTC)

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Wikipedialuva, thank you! I stand on the shoulders of giants. Lots of great typo work got done before I came along and is still ongoing by others, so I share this barnstar with them. Cheers! Stefen Towers among the rest! GabGruntwerk 20:39, 28 January 2024 (UTC)

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Sometimes...

I wanna say " Gimme a Break! with this nothingburger" in particular situations here. I obviously won't do that so as to cover my butt. Heh. Stefen Towers among the rest! GabGruntwerk 15:51, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

Just a word

Hello there! As you know, I blanked and redirected the page which you have restored - as is my right under the rules - and I also did so after determining that there is not enough information on Clemente's legacy, nothing specific. I did not do it because I wanted to (as you seem to imply). You know I would not do so otherwise.

There is simply not enough/very little on Clemente's legacy to justify a seperate article. Please, be reasonable here and just redirect this page to the main article. Omnis Scientia ( talk) 18:47, 8 February 2024 (UTC)

I have seen no evidence of research on this article beyond your claims of having done so. What I can see with my eyes is your deleting out of the article part by part after not getting a result you desired in the previous AfD per an apparent WP:POINT exercise. What I expected is a combination of adding material and subtracting material to right-size the article. For a time, I assumed good faith that you were engaging in right-sizing, but at the end, all that appears is that you just wanted to delete it all. Per that and we have a community process that decided to keep the article, I am being wiki-reasonable on this. There is no harm to the Wikipedia in keeping this article around while, eventually, other editors may seek to improve it. Stefen Towers among the rest! GabGruntwerk 18:55, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
Well, I removed the quotes and added a link to wikiquote from where the quotes were. And I removed incorrect information. That was indeed in good faith. Omnis Scientia ( talk) 19:00, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
Perhaps a lot of the deletions were within reason and done in good faith, but the community decided to keep the article as a whole. Please let that stand. After a considerable period of time, if the article hasn't significantly improved, you can try a second AfD. We need to stick to the community processes and not engage in disruptive practices. Stefen Towers among the rest! GabGruntwerk 19:05, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
Very well. I will let it go. But believe me when I say that I did do my own research. Mainly SABR articles and re-reading the go-to biography on Clemente. Of course, due to limitations, I couldn't given them in the page summary itself. Omnis Scientia ( talk) 19:08, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
I also want to add the blank and redirect to Clemente's "Honors and legacy" section in the main was also done in good faith. I just believed that section has more reliable sources and is more detailed, though it has more to do with his honors - i.e. Hall of Fame and so on - than his legacy (I hope that make sense). Omnis Scientia ( talk) 19:18, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
There is no reason why reliable sources cannot be copied over to the legacy subarticle, which is normally expected to go into deeper detail than the main article. The legacy subarticle can be developed to provide greater detail than the main one, while the main can summarize. And this would naturally mean that content and its sources are copied over. There seems to be an insistence from you that the main article have all the content related to this sub-subject, and I don't understand where that comes from. We regularly spin off content into subarticles here at the Wikipedia, so as to take a deeper dive into something. I'd rather not get a sense that a subarticle is being starved to make a point, but that's how it seems in this case. Stefen Towers among the rest! GabGruntwerk 19:35, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
That particular section mostly about the Halls of Fame he has been elected to and baseball awards and honors he has been given, not about his legacy as a Puerto Rican icon and his charitable stuff, and most of the info on him being Puerto Rican is about the discrimination he faced while playing in America or about him playing in the Puerto Rican Professional Baseball League (and his personal life, of course). Omnis Scientia ( talk) 19:43, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
Depending on the honor, they can be a part of one's legacy. At any rate, my statement you are replying to is a general point that it's the normal way in the Wikipedia to do deeper dives in subarticles while summarizing the sub-subject in the main, and we shouldn't be starving the legacy article unnecessarily. Stefen Towers among the rest! GabGruntwerk 19:51, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
I'll check it out. I'll also ask a few older participants in WikiProject Baseball if they can help out since they tend know more about baseball subarticles. Omnis Scientia ( talk) 20:00, 8 February 2024 (UTC)

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Albums recorded in Louisville, Kentucky

I understand that Middletown is in the Louisville metro area but the category scheme for Category:Live albums recorded in Louisville, Kentucky is set up for venues located in Louisville that have their own subcategories and not just any album recorded in Louisville. That's why the category has the {{ Container category}} template on it. Thank you. Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars Talk to me 04:27, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

I don't see why it has to be a container category. I don't see any damage from it not being one. Stefen Towers among the rest! GabGruntwerk 04:54, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
As a compromise I created Category:Albums recorded at Southeast Christian Church, although it really shouldn't exist because it's not a notable venue as I assume it is not a place where a lot of live albums have been recorded. The reason the city categories are container categories is because an album recorded in any particular city in and of itself is not a defining quality of the album because it was recorded in Los Angeles or New York City or Louisville, as it really doesn't make any difference. It can be defining based on the venue in which the album was recorded, if such venue is itself notable, and the city categories were developed/created to serve as parents of those venue categories for easier navigation. Thanks again. Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars Talk to me 06:20, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
That's all fine, and if that's the way it needs to be, it's not a bad solution. :) By the way, Southeast Christian Church is the largest church in the Louisville area and as of 2019, the 4th largest in the U.S. (per the article), so there's that. Stefen Towers among the rest! GabGruntwerk 06:26, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
It's all good. I'm certainly not saying the church isn't notable, just not as sure it is as a musical venue. 06:40, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

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Had a quick question/observation on your recent changes of Province of Pennsylvania to province of Pennsylvania. Do you see a lack of capitalization anywhere that led you to believe it should not be capitalized? Every reference to it that I have seen capitalizes it. Here, for instance, is one example from the Pennsylvania Historical Commission from the state website: [58] I am going to restore it to the capitalized format. But if I am missing something, please let me know. Just want to make sure we have it right. Thanks very much. Keystone18 ( talk) 13:22, 14 March 2024 (UTC)

We'll leave it capped. Every once in a while, I overindulge the typo fix suggestion – it's not always right. If you believe this is a significant typo fixing problem, perhaps bring this up as a topic at WT:AWB/T. Stefen Towers among the rest! GabGruntwerk 15:54, 14 March 2024 (UTC)

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I'd like to extend a cordial invitation to you to join the Twenty Year Society, an informal group for editors who've been participating in the Wikipedia project for twenty years or more. ​

Best regards, Chris Troutman ( talk) 13:43, 20 March 2024 (UTC)

Thank you kindly for the invite. I have joined. Stefen Towers among the rest! GabGruntwerk 00:20, 21 March 2024 (UTC)

Happy First Edit Day!

Thank you. Yup, it's been 20 years of correcting other editors' typos and removing uncited material, and well, doing some actual contributions of my own. Heh. Hopefully, my presence has been more constructive than not. Stefen Towers among the rest! GabGruntwerk 03:05, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
Wow, congrats on 20 years! Every edit and contribution to the encyclopedia you have made over the years is so important and you have made such a positive impact on this community. Thank you! -- ARose Wolf 13:59, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
Thank you for the kind words. On to the next 20. :) Stefen Towers among the rest! GabGruntwerk 00:23, 21 March 2024 (UTC)

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Thank you very much for looking into all of my JWB settings and such to try to find out what the issue was. It was really helpful!!! Thank you very much! Geardona ( talk to me?) 17:06, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
No prob. Glad to help. Thanks for the barnstar! Stefen Towers among the rest! GabGruntwerk 22:18, 22 March 2024 (UTC)

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