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Hello, Snakeswithfeet, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions, especially what you did for Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nava Applebaum. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

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Thank you very much for your kind welcome.

Thank you for the help at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nava Applebaum. The article is now on the front page as a DYK.-- brew crewer (yada, yada) 04:25, 26 October 2010 (UTC) reply

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Disambiguation page that doesn't really disambiguate.

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Ami'ad

Hi. The info on it being founded by the Palmach was from the Hebrew Wikipedia (from which I translated the article). Can't really help much beyond that I'm afraid! Number 5 7 10:03, 2 April 2011 (UTC) reply

No, it doesn't give a source (he.wiki doesn't use references that much. However, its official website does state that it was founded by Palmach members, although the Jewish Agency was later involved in deciding the name of the place. Number 5 7 09:38, 4 April 2011 (UTC) reply

Thanks for the link. My translation (Google) says :"The founders of Amiad were sent here in 1946 by the Palmach, to help guard and protect the road to Tiberias from hostile attacks by arab mobs." If they were sent there, then the actual founders could be the "graduates of the Hanoar Haoved movement" as my source says, no? OR the Palmach themselves were "graduates of the Hanoar Haoved movement." Can you read Hebrew youself well enough to make the distinction between "the founders ...were sent" and "the founders were..." in this case? If the Palmach sent founders who were graduates ... well, that makes sense to me but I don't want to be doing WP:OR. Snakeswithfeet ( talk) 05:08, 5 April 2011 (UTC) reply

Er, the link I gave you above is in English. It doesn't mention anything about HaNoar HaOved, although it does state that some of the later residents were part of HaBonim Dror. Number 5 7 11:13, 5 April 2011 (UTC) reply
I don't know if you read this (which was linked to in the Amiad website), but it may clarify things as it states that the founders "were the first of their movement (Noar HaOved) to form a unit in the Palmach.". As for Wilhemina, the reason I used the disambiguation "Palestine" is because it only seems to have been a residential settlement prior to WWI - i.e. before the Mandate era, hence only using the term Palestine. Number 5 7 19:59, 5 April 2011 (UTC) reply

Category

I'm not entirely sure what the purpose of this category you created is? Anyway, if it is retained, it should be renamed Category: Jewish villages in the British Mandate for Palestine. Number 5 7 10:21, 6 April 2011 (UTC) reply

Hi, Number 57. The purpose for such a category is to demonstrate the presence of the Jews in historical Palestine at that time. It is similar perhaps to the Category:Arab villages depopulated during the 1948 Arab–Israeli War in that that category provides an historical presence of (Palestinian) Arabs in a particular place and at a particular time. Things have changed since then, but this helps keep the historical record straight. I am not averse to changing the cat name to your suggestion: Jewish villages in the British Mandate for Palestine or perhaps Jewish villages in the Mandate for Palestine (since the British were the only ones to have a "Mandate for Palestine" it may be redundant to add "British") I have never changed a category name and not sure how to go about it, though. Snakeswithfeet ( talk) 03:57, 7 April 2011 (UTC) reply
While I have you, so to speak, I would like to return to the article Wilhelma, Palestine. The more I mull it over, the more convinced that the name should be changed back to your original Wilhelma, Israel and my reasoning follows. The German Templar village was founded in the modern era, 1902, in the region known as "Filastin" under the control of the Ottoman Empire until ~ 1917-1922. From 1917 - April 1948, under control of the British, Wilhelma was apparently an internment camp, not a village at all. Since May 1948 it has been a part of Israel. These pictures from the Commons appears to show that the area is still known as Wilhelma, even if it is also known as Bnei Atarot. I think it more correct and specific to place Wilhelma in Israel given the geography, the history and the currrent situation, (that for the better part of the time it has been occupied freely, ie not a prison camp, it has been occupied by Jews and Israelis. Your thoughts? Snakeswithfeet ( talk) 05:01, 7 April 2011 (UTC) reply
I'm still of the opinion that it should be Palestine. It may be in Israel now, but during the time when it was actually a village, the place name was Palestine (or perhaps even Ottoman Empire). Number 5 7 08:54, 8 April 2011 (UTC) reply
PS, to change a category name, see WP:CfD. However, as there are relatively few entries in it, it may be easier to create a new category, empty the existing one, and then I'll delete it for you. Cheers, Number 5 7 08:56, 8 April 2011 (UTC) reply

Re: Wilhelma, Palestine

Hi Snakeswithfeet! I don't see any disagreement with your comments on the talk page (not sure what you were referring to), so moving the page shouldn't be a problem given enough time (say, one week after your original comment, which means 3 days from now). If someone does oppose it, then I will join the discussion, although to be honest I have little to add at this point because I do not have high-quality sources on the subject. — Ynhockey ( Talk) 22:04, 8 April 2011 (UTC) reply

prior accounts

Have you ever used a prior account on Wikipedia? nableezy - 22:46, 9 June 2011 (UTC) reply

taking a leave

Circumstances of a medical nature require me to take a leave of absence from Wikipedia for a while. Hope to return shortly. Snakeswithfeet ( talk) 01:30, 16 June 2011 (UTC) reply

Your name has been mentioned in connection with a sockpuppetry case. Please refer to Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Dajudem for evidence. Please make sure you make yourself familiar with the guide to responding to cases before editing the evidence page. nableezy - 18:34, 27 June 2011 (UTC) reply

Hello

I saw you leaved a message for me a year ago, I wanted to apologize for not replying. I wasn't here because I got tired of Wikipedia (I apologize for that statment, I know that for some of you it's most important), which is ruled in articles about Israeli-Arabic conflict and Palestinians by Anti-Israeli operators. they censor anything that is against their view of it. they publish doubted sources and say that creditable sources "are simply not true" if claiming anything against it. I thanks you for your suggestion, though I doubt I will stay from resons cited above and fro, the lack of my time for really entering this story. greetings, -- Yamisrael ( talk) 16:43, 4 July 2011 (UTC) reply

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Welcome

Welcome!

Hello, Snakeswithfeet, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions, especially what you did for Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nava Applebaum. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your messages on discussion pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically insert your username and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or ask your question on this page and then place {{helpme}} before the question. Again, welcome! brew crewer (yada, yada) 03:29, 19 October 2010 (UTC) reply

Thank you very much for your kind welcome.

Thank you for the help at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nava Applebaum. The article is now on the front page as a DYK.-- brew crewer (yada, yada) 04:25, 26 October 2010 (UTC) reply

The article Blaming the Victims (disambiguation) has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Disambiguation page that doesn't really disambiguate.

While all contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, content or articles may be deleted for any of several reasons.

You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{proposed deletion/dated}} notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.

Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Removing {{proposed deletion/dated}} will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. The speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. Logan Talk Contributions 02:37, 13 January 2011 (UTC) reply

Ami'ad

Hi. The info on it being founded by the Palmach was from the Hebrew Wikipedia (from which I translated the article). Can't really help much beyond that I'm afraid! Number 5 7 10:03, 2 April 2011 (UTC) reply

No, it doesn't give a source (he.wiki doesn't use references that much. However, its official website does state that it was founded by Palmach members, although the Jewish Agency was later involved in deciding the name of the place. Number 5 7 09:38, 4 April 2011 (UTC) reply

Thanks for the link. My translation (Google) says :"The founders of Amiad were sent here in 1946 by the Palmach, to help guard and protect the road to Tiberias from hostile attacks by arab mobs." If they were sent there, then the actual founders could be the "graduates of the Hanoar Haoved movement" as my source says, no? OR the Palmach themselves were "graduates of the Hanoar Haoved movement." Can you read Hebrew youself well enough to make the distinction between "the founders ...were sent" and "the founders were..." in this case? If the Palmach sent founders who were graduates ... well, that makes sense to me but I don't want to be doing WP:OR. Snakeswithfeet ( talk) 05:08, 5 April 2011 (UTC) reply

Er, the link I gave you above is in English. It doesn't mention anything about HaNoar HaOved, although it does state that some of the later residents were part of HaBonim Dror. Number 5 7 11:13, 5 April 2011 (UTC) reply
I don't know if you read this (which was linked to in the Amiad website), but it may clarify things as it states that the founders "were the first of their movement (Noar HaOved) to form a unit in the Palmach.". As for Wilhemina, the reason I used the disambiguation "Palestine" is because it only seems to have been a residential settlement prior to WWI - i.e. before the Mandate era, hence only using the term Palestine. Number 5 7 19:59, 5 April 2011 (UTC) reply

Category

I'm not entirely sure what the purpose of this category you created is? Anyway, if it is retained, it should be renamed Category: Jewish villages in the British Mandate for Palestine. Number 5 7 10:21, 6 April 2011 (UTC) reply

Hi, Number 57. The purpose for such a category is to demonstrate the presence of the Jews in historical Palestine at that time. It is similar perhaps to the Category:Arab villages depopulated during the 1948 Arab–Israeli War in that that category provides an historical presence of (Palestinian) Arabs in a particular place and at a particular time. Things have changed since then, but this helps keep the historical record straight. I am not averse to changing the cat name to your suggestion: Jewish villages in the British Mandate for Palestine or perhaps Jewish villages in the Mandate for Palestine (since the British were the only ones to have a "Mandate for Palestine" it may be redundant to add "British") I have never changed a category name and not sure how to go about it, though. Snakeswithfeet ( talk) 03:57, 7 April 2011 (UTC) reply
While I have you, so to speak, I would like to return to the article Wilhelma, Palestine. The more I mull it over, the more convinced that the name should be changed back to your original Wilhelma, Israel and my reasoning follows. The German Templar village was founded in the modern era, 1902, in the region known as "Filastin" under the control of the Ottoman Empire until ~ 1917-1922. From 1917 - April 1948, under control of the British, Wilhelma was apparently an internment camp, not a village at all. Since May 1948 it has been a part of Israel. These pictures from the Commons appears to show that the area is still known as Wilhelma, even if it is also known as Bnei Atarot. I think it more correct and specific to place Wilhelma in Israel given the geography, the history and the currrent situation, (that for the better part of the time it has been occupied freely, ie not a prison camp, it has been occupied by Jews and Israelis. Your thoughts? Snakeswithfeet ( talk) 05:01, 7 April 2011 (UTC) reply
I'm still of the opinion that it should be Palestine. It may be in Israel now, but during the time when it was actually a village, the place name was Palestine (or perhaps even Ottoman Empire). Number 5 7 08:54, 8 April 2011 (UTC) reply
PS, to change a category name, see WP:CfD. However, as there are relatively few entries in it, it may be easier to create a new category, empty the existing one, and then I'll delete it for you. Cheers, Number 5 7 08:56, 8 April 2011 (UTC) reply

Re: Wilhelma, Palestine

Hi Snakeswithfeet! I don't see any disagreement with your comments on the talk page (not sure what you were referring to), so moving the page shouldn't be a problem given enough time (say, one week after your original comment, which means 3 days from now). If someone does oppose it, then I will join the discussion, although to be honest I have little to add at this point because I do not have high-quality sources on the subject. — Ynhockey ( Talk) 22:04, 8 April 2011 (UTC) reply

prior accounts

Have you ever used a prior account on Wikipedia? nableezy - 22:46, 9 June 2011 (UTC) reply

taking a leave

Circumstances of a medical nature require me to take a leave of absence from Wikipedia for a while. Hope to return shortly. Snakeswithfeet ( talk) 01:30, 16 June 2011 (UTC) reply

Your name has been mentioned in connection with a sockpuppetry case. Please refer to Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Dajudem for evidence. Please make sure you make yourself familiar with the guide to responding to cases before editing the evidence page. nableezy - 18:34, 27 June 2011 (UTC) reply

Hello

I saw you leaved a message for me a year ago, I wanted to apologize for not replying. I wasn't here because I got tired of Wikipedia (I apologize for that statment, I know that for some of you it's most important), which is ruled in articles about Israeli-Arabic conflict and Palestinians by Anti-Israeli operators. they censor anything that is against their view of it. they publish doubted sources and say that creditable sources "are simply not true" if claiming anything against it. I thanks you for your suggestion, though I doubt I will stay from resons cited above and fro, the lack of my time for really entering this story. greetings, -- Yamisrael ( talk) 16:43, 4 July 2011 (UTC) reply


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