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A Type-0 Query (no Caetuna reference intended)

I've been looking at the article once or twice recently, and something has struck me. It's.... getting quite large. I am wondering whether it would be wise or not to split the HD-centered elements away into a separate article or not. You know, like having the information concerning Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster separated into its own article rather than spread between the two original articles. The Last of Us Remastered is another example. In most cases, it wouldn't be practical, but Type-0 HD has very much evolved into its own development story instead of just a subsection. In fact, it's almost a separate game. Then again, the original game was not released outside Japan, meaning the references for the plot would need to be removed, and we would need to consider whether to use the original or localised versions of names and such. A second opinion is wanted and would be much appreciated. -- ProtoDrake ( talk) 22:40, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

I fully support a split, I think even after the split you've dug up enough dev section info for both - the creation part could be more for the PSP, and all the content about the HD Remaster could be the dev section for the HD one. The PSP one could document the fan translation a bit more too, something I've wanted to include, but felt it was a bit UNDUE considering the scope of both version collectively. That being said, I'd just go with the official translation terms/names for both, they really didn't do anything crazy in regards to changing things other than translating them, right? Sergecross73 msg me 22:56, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
The split has been achieved. There is now the original and its HD version. A scan from another pair of eyes would be appreciated. -- ProtoDrake ( talk) 10:21, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
Awesome, I'll look it over shortly. Quick thought: Do you think it would be good to have some sort of hatnote at the top, something along the lines of "This article is for the PSP version of FFT0. For the HD version of the game, see FFT0HD article"? I just wonder if more casual fans may not even realize that there was a PSP version, since it never came out in English, and the PSP wasn't super popular in English regions. They may keep trying to add HD info to it. If you don't agree, or there's some sort of specific/obscure guideline to using hatnotes that doesn't allow for that, then I'm fine with not doing it too. Sergecross73 msg me 13:41, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
I've looked it over, ProtoDrake. Everything looks ver good, as always. I personally think I'd put less of the localization info at the HD article, as most of that was more for the PSP version, but that's really splitting hairs. It's good either way. Side note: I've just started playing the game today, and whether or not I'm motivated to continue writing on a subject is often dependent on if I like it or not. I'm happy to report that I'm really liking it so far. I'll try to keep helping with them. Sergecross73 msg me 02:40, 26 April 2015 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

Hey, I'm sorry about what we've got into with the Meghan-related articles. It is great that you want to fight for what is right. You deserve this gorgeous cat.

All About That Bass ( A word?? / Stalking not allowed...) 16:30, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

No problem. It bothers me when editors seem to put their person opinions ahead of what reliable sources say, so sometimes I get sucked into disputes like this that I don't have any personal interest in, but still want to make sure policy is carried out right. Same thing has happened regarding Nickelback and Cash Cash in the past. Also, I figured I should participate, since I was the one who encouraged you to take the RFC route in the first place. Hopefully things'll wind down soon, and then I can leave the work to people like yourself, who really care about the musician. Sergecross73 msg me 16:39, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
Also, since you are an admin, could you look once through WV's user space? They are making blatant WP:POLEMIC attacks at my expense. One attack's even got a file attached similar to the one I keep at my user page. All About That Bass ( A word?? / Stalking not allowed...) 17:01, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
There's...a lot going on with that user page. Anything in particular you find offensive? Sergecross73 msg me 17:03, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
The column "Funny Stuff" and similar columns. All About That Bass ( A word?? / Stalking not allowed...) 17:08, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
Also, following my AN/I report and RfC report, the posted this referring to me as a diva. All About That Bass ( A word?? / Stalking not allowed...) 17:10, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
I wouldn't worry about it. Those comments are so vague, generic, and pointless, that I don't think anyone would associate them to you (or even bother to read them.) I'm sure the arguments with him that would ensue would just lead to more endless bickering, and it doesn't seem like either of you are strangers to ANI - it may be best to try to stay away from things that may escalate to there for a bit. Editors/admin get tired of repeated offenders, and may start laying down repercussions after a while. I'd just focus on the two discussions going on right now, and even then, there's not much else to do until others comment - it doesn't really look like consensus is on their side in either instance, so far anyways. I recommend working on an article completely unrelated to anything WV. It'd probably be more enjoyable anyways. Sergecross73 msg me 18:33, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
@ Sergecross73:@ Sergecross73: Another blatant polemic attack, [1] was posted just a few hours after [2]. Can you please help me? All About That Bass ( A word?? / Stalking not allowed...) 07:53, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
I really think you should just remove his user page from your watchlist and not look at his contribs. His little writings don't mention you by name, and resemble the ramblings of a teenager venting through their Xanga/ Myspace blogs or something. I doubt anyone bothers to read them, they're boring and vague. The only reason he does it is probably because he wants to passive/aggressively bother you. Please, take the high road and just ignore it. Sergecross73 msg me 16:52, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

Thank You Very Much!

I'm pretty much getting fed up with the i.p telling me to shut up and pointing fun out of my *Humanly Spelling Mistakes* because I've done explained logically enough to the i.p. how impossible it is for it to be Isaac Marshall's voice as anyone can perform roars and have special effects used on them to make them sound epic! -- Vaati the Wind Demon ( talk) 23:39, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

No problem. Sometimes all you need in times like this is some third party input. I don't mind helping. I don't usually especially watch the Bowser page, but I do work on a lot of Nintendo related articles, so I don't mind helping. Sergecross73 msg me 15:07, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

Need help with an anonymous user

This is outside of what you normally help with, but since you're an active admin I'm familiar with, could I request that the Atlanta Falcons roster navbox template be protected from anonymous edits? There is this user who doesn't follow standards the 31 other team roster templates have set and reverts anything he doesn't agree with. For some reason, nobody else has stepped in to give their opinion even though I requested help in the NFL Wikiproject months ago. ~ Dissident93 ( talk) 07:06, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

I've protected it. I see you've started a discussion on the talk page - hopefully he'll be forced to discuss now. Sergecross73 msg me 13:39, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
Hopefully, yes. These team roster navbox templates should all follow the same standards as the regular roster templates do. ~ Dissident93 ( talk) 21:44, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

Atlanta Falcons

Why did you lock the Falcons roster box and not any others ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Falconfanatic ( talkcontribs) 17:07, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

See the discussion directly above. It was the only one I was alerted to. There was a dispute and the IP was not discussing on the talk page or adhering to precedent. (From what I've been told anyways, I don't usually work on sports pages.) Sergecross73 msg me 17:12, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

@ Falconfanatic: Have you read the talk page? I made a comment there 8 months ago, but it was ignored by the anonymous user who doesn't follow template standards and reverted anything I did to combat that. ~ Dissident93 ( talk) 21:58, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

Seems like Falconfanatic may be the same user, as he just added back the nonstandard grouping. For comparison, this is what the template is like for the rest of the league (31 other templates), and this is what the Falcons one was like during the season. ~ Dissident93 ( talk) 01:16, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
I've now fully protected it, and started a new discussion on the talk page. Hopefully there will be discussion now. Full protection means now you can't edit it either, though I'll remove it shortly, especially if you are intending on making non-controversial other changes to it. If you don't mind, on the meantime, please explain your stance on the template talk page. Not for me - I understand your stance - but just for documentation's sake. Sergecross73 msg me 01:31, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for the help, I've asked on the NFL Wikiproject twice now, but was ignored for some reason. ~ Dissident93 ( talk) 02:35, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
Are they very active? I know the video games and music ones are, but I know a lot of others aren't. Then again, Footballs pretty popular, so it seems like there'd be a presence there... Sergecross73 msg me 02:50, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
They are, recently the NFL player infobox was updated with a lot of discussion about it, so I don't know why some requests are just ignored (similar to how my videogame infobox composer suggestions...) Dissident93 ( talk) 04:00, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

This is not right for this roster box to be locked and 31 others are unlocked I have been doing the falcons roster for about 2 years now I am a die hard fan and I would like it to be decent that's why I fix it up.

  1. RiseUp — Preceding unsigned comment added by Falconfanatic ( talkcontribs) 05:19, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
Why would I lock every template if there's only a dispute with one? There's a dispute on how to organize, and no one is discussing on the talk page about it like they're supposed to when this happens. Locking it forces the discussion that was already supposed to be happening. I'll unlock it one there's a WP:CONSENSUS on how to handle it. Sergecross73 msg me 15:22, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

Atlanta Falcons

Why did you lock the Falcons roster box and not any others ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Falconfanatic ( talkcontribs) 17:07, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

See the discussion directly above. It was the only one I was alerted to. There was a dispute and the IP was not discussing on the talk page or adhering to precedent. (From what I've been told anyways, I don't usually work on sports pages.) Sergecross73 msg me 17:12, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

@ Falconfanatic: Have you read the talk page? I made a comment there 8 months ago, but it was ignored by the anonymous user who doesn't follow template standards and reverted anything I did to combat that. ~ Dissident93 ( talk) 21:58, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

Seems like Falconfanatic may be the same user, as he just added back the nonstandard grouping. For comparison, this is what the template is like for the rest of the league (31 other templates), and this is what the Falcons one was like during the season. ~ Dissident93 ( talk) 01:16, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
I've now fully protected it, and started a new discussion on the talk page. Hopefully there will be discussion now. Full protection means now you can't edit it either, though I'll remove it shortly, especially if you are intending on making non-controversial other changes to it. If you don't mind, on the meantime, please explain your stance on the template talk page. Not for me - I understand your stance - but just for documentation's sake. Sergecross73 msg me 01:31, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for the help, I've asked on the NFL Wikiproject twice now, but was ignored for some reason. ~ Dissident93 ( talk) 02:35, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
Are they very active? I know the video games and music ones are, but I know a lot of others aren't. Then again, Footballs pretty popular, so it seems like there'd be a presence there... Sergecross73 msg me 02:50, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
They are, recently the NFL player infobox was updated with a lot of discussion about it, so I don't know why some requests are just ignored (similar to how my videogame infobox composer suggestions...) Dissident93 ( talk) 04:00, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

This is not right for this roster box to be locked and 31 others are unlocked I have been doing the falcons roster for about 2 years now I am a die hard fan and I would like it to be decent that's why I fix it up.

  1. RiseUp — Preceding unsigned comment added by Falconfanatic ( talkcontribs) 05:19, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
Why would I lock every template if there's only a dispute with one? There's a dispute on how to organize, and no one is discussing on the talk page about it like they're supposed to when this happens. Locking it forces the discussion that was already supposed to be happening. I'll unlock it one there's a WP:CONSENSUS on how to handle it. Sergecross73 msg me 15:22, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
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A Type-0 Query (no Caetuna reference intended)

I've been looking at the article once or twice recently, and something has struck me. It's.... getting quite large. I am wondering whether it would be wise or not to split the HD-centered elements away into a separate article or not. You know, like having the information concerning Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster separated into its own article rather than spread between the two original articles. The Last of Us Remastered is another example. In most cases, it wouldn't be practical, but Type-0 HD has very much evolved into its own development story instead of just a subsection. In fact, it's almost a separate game. Then again, the original game was not released outside Japan, meaning the references for the plot would need to be removed, and we would need to consider whether to use the original or localised versions of names and such. A second opinion is wanted and would be much appreciated. -- ProtoDrake ( talk) 22:40, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

I fully support a split, I think even after the split you've dug up enough dev section info for both - the creation part could be more for the PSP, and all the content about the HD Remaster could be the dev section for the HD one. The PSP one could document the fan translation a bit more too, something I've wanted to include, but felt it was a bit UNDUE considering the scope of both version collectively. That being said, I'd just go with the official translation terms/names for both, they really didn't do anything crazy in regards to changing things other than translating them, right? Sergecross73 msg me 22:56, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
The split has been achieved. There is now the original and its HD version. A scan from another pair of eyes would be appreciated. -- ProtoDrake ( talk) 10:21, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
Awesome, I'll look it over shortly. Quick thought: Do you think it would be good to have some sort of hatnote at the top, something along the lines of "This article is for the PSP version of FFT0. For the HD version of the game, see FFT0HD article"? I just wonder if more casual fans may not even realize that there was a PSP version, since it never came out in English, and the PSP wasn't super popular in English regions. They may keep trying to add HD info to it. If you don't agree, or there's some sort of specific/obscure guideline to using hatnotes that doesn't allow for that, then I'm fine with not doing it too. Sergecross73 msg me 13:41, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
I've looked it over, ProtoDrake. Everything looks ver good, as always. I personally think I'd put less of the localization info at the HD article, as most of that was more for the PSP version, but that's really splitting hairs. It's good either way. Side note: I've just started playing the game today, and whether or not I'm motivated to continue writing on a subject is often dependent on if I like it or not. I'm happy to report that I'm really liking it so far. I'll try to keep helping with them. Sergecross73 msg me 02:40, 26 April 2015 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

Hey, I'm sorry about what we've got into with the Meghan-related articles. It is great that you want to fight for what is right. You deserve this gorgeous cat.

All About That Bass ( A word?? / Stalking not allowed...) 16:30, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

No problem. It bothers me when editors seem to put their person opinions ahead of what reliable sources say, so sometimes I get sucked into disputes like this that I don't have any personal interest in, but still want to make sure policy is carried out right. Same thing has happened regarding Nickelback and Cash Cash in the past. Also, I figured I should participate, since I was the one who encouraged you to take the RFC route in the first place. Hopefully things'll wind down soon, and then I can leave the work to people like yourself, who really care about the musician. Sergecross73 msg me 16:39, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
Also, since you are an admin, could you look once through WV's user space? They are making blatant WP:POLEMIC attacks at my expense. One attack's even got a file attached similar to the one I keep at my user page. All About That Bass ( A word?? / Stalking not allowed...) 17:01, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
There's...a lot going on with that user page. Anything in particular you find offensive? Sergecross73 msg me 17:03, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
The column "Funny Stuff" and similar columns. All About That Bass ( A word?? / Stalking not allowed...) 17:08, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
Also, following my AN/I report and RfC report, the posted this referring to me as a diva. All About That Bass ( A word?? / Stalking not allowed...) 17:10, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
I wouldn't worry about it. Those comments are so vague, generic, and pointless, that I don't think anyone would associate them to you (or even bother to read them.) I'm sure the arguments with him that would ensue would just lead to more endless bickering, and it doesn't seem like either of you are strangers to ANI - it may be best to try to stay away from things that may escalate to there for a bit. Editors/admin get tired of repeated offenders, and may start laying down repercussions after a while. I'd just focus on the two discussions going on right now, and even then, there's not much else to do until others comment - it doesn't really look like consensus is on their side in either instance, so far anyways. I recommend working on an article completely unrelated to anything WV. It'd probably be more enjoyable anyways. Sergecross73 msg me 18:33, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
@ Sergecross73:@ Sergecross73: Another blatant polemic attack, [1] was posted just a few hours after [2]. Can you please help me? All About That Bass ( A word?? / Stalking not allowed...) 07:53, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
I really think you should just remove his user page from your watchlist and not look at his contribs. His little writings don't mention you by name, and resemble the ramblings of a teenager venting through their Xanga/ Myspace blogs or something. I doubt anyone bothers to read them, they're boring and vague. The only reason he does it is probably because he wants to passive/aggressively bother you. Please, take the high road and just ignore it. Sergecross73 msg me 16:52, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

Thank You Very Much!

I'm pretty much getting fed up with the i.p telling me to shut up and pointing fun out of my *Humanly Spelling Mistakes* because I've done explained logically enough to the i.p. how impossible it is for it to be Isaac Marshall's voice as anyone can perform roars and have special effects used on them to make them sound epic! -- Vaati the Wind Demon ( talk) 23:39, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

No problem. Sometimes all you need in times like this is some third party input. I don't mind helping. I don't usually especially watch the Bowser page, but I do work on a lot of Nintendo related articles, so I don't mind helping. Sergecross73 msg me 15:07, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

Need help with an anonymous user

This is outside of what you normally help with, but since you're an active admin I'm familiar with, could I request that the Atlanta Falcons roster navbox template be protected from anonymous edits? There is this user who doesn't follow standards the 31 other team roster templates have set and reverts anything he doesn't agree with. For some reason, nobody else has stepped in to give their opinion even though I requested help in the NFL Wikiproject months ago. ~ Dissident93 ( talk) 07:06, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

I've protected it. I see you've started a discussion on the talk page - hopefully he'll be forced to discuss now. Sergecross73 msg me 13:39, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
Hopefully, yes. These team roster navbox templates should all follow the same standards as the regular roster templates do. ~ Dissident93 ( talk) 21:44, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

Atlanta Falcons

Why did you lock the Falcons roster box and not any others ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Falconfanatic ( talkcontribs) 17:07, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

See the discussion directly above. It was the only one I was alerted to. There was a dispute and the IP was not discussing on the talk page or adhering to precedent. (From what I've been told anyways, I don't usually work on sports pages.) Sergecross73 msg me 17:12, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

@ Falconfanatic: Have you read the talk page? I made a comment there 8 months ago, but it was ignored by the anonymous user who doesn't follow template standards and reverted anything I did to combat that. ~ Dissident93 ( talk) 21:58, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

Seems like Falconfanatic may be the same user, as he just added back the nonstandard grouping. For comparison, this is what the template is like for the rest of the league (31 other templates), and this is what the Falcons one was like during the season. ~ Dissident93 ( talk) 01:16, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
I've now fully protected it, and started a new discussion on the talk page. Hopefully there will be discussion now. Full protection means now you can't edit it either, though I'll remove it shortly, especially if you are intending on making non-controversial other changes to it. If you don't mind, on the meantime, please explain your stance on the template talk page. Not for me - I understand your stance - but just for documentation's sake. Sergecross73 msg me 01:31, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for the help, I've asked on the NFL Wikiproject twice now, but was ignored for some reason. ~ Dissident93 ( talk) 02:35, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
Are they very active? I know the video games and music ones are, but I know a lot of others aren't. Then again, Footballs pretty popular, so it seems like there'd be a presence there... Sergecross73 msg me 02:50, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
They are, recently the NFL player infobox was updated with a lot of discussion about it, so I don't know why some requests are just ignored (similar to how my videogame infobox composer suggestions...) Dissident93 ( talk) 04:00, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

This is not right for this roster box to be locked and 31 others are unlocked I have been doing the falcons roster for about 2 years now I am a die hard fan and I would like it to be decent that's why I fix it up.

  1. RiseUp — Preceding unsigned comment added by Falconfanatic ( talkcontribs) 05:19, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
Why would I lock every template if there's only a dispute with one? There's a dispute on how to organize, and no one is discussing on the talk page about it like they're supposed to when this happens. Locking it forces the discussion that was already supposed to be happening. I'll unlock it one there's a WP:CONSENSUS on how to handle it. Sergecross73 msg me 15:22, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

Atlanta Falcons

Why did you lock the Falcons roster box and not any others ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Falconfanatic ( talkcontribs) 17:07, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

See the discussion directly above. It was the only one I was alerted to. There was a dispute and the IP was not discussing on the talk page or adhering to precedent. (From what I've been told anyways, I don't usually work on sports pages.) Sergecross73 msg me 17:12, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

@ Falconfanatic: Have you read the talk page? I made a comment there 8 months ago, but it was ignored by the anonymous user who doesn't follow template standards and reverted anything I did to combat that. ~ Dissident93 ( talk) 21:58, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

Seems like Falconfanatic may be the same user, as he just added back the nonstandard grouping. For comparison, this is what the template is like for the rest of the league (31 other templates), and this is what the Falcons one was like during the season. ~ Dissident93 ( talk) 01:16, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
I've now fully protected it, and started a new discussion on the talk page. Hopefully there will be discussion now. Full protection means now you can't edit it either, though I'll remove it shortly, especially if you are intending on making non-controversial other changes to it. If you don't mind, on the meantime, please explain your stance on the template talk page. Not for me - I understand your stance - but just for documentation's sake. Sergecross73 msg me 01:31, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for the help, I've asked on the NFL Wikiproject twice now, but was ignored for some reason. ~ Dissident93 ( talk) 02:35, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
Are they very active? I know the video games and music ones are, but I know a lot of others aren't. Then again, Footballs pretty popular, so it seems like there'd be a presence there... Sergecross73 msg me 02:50, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
They are, recently the NFL player infobox was updated with a lot of discussion about it, so I don't know why some requests are just ignored (similar to how my videogame infobox composer suggestions...) Dissident93 ( talk) 04:00, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

This is not right for this roster box to be locked and 31 others are unlocked I have been doing the falcons roster for about 2 years now I am a die hard fan and I would like it to be decent that's why I fix it up.

  1. RiseUp — Preceding unsigned comment added by Falconfanatic ( talkcontribs) 05:19, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
Why would I lock every template if there's only a dispute with one? There's a dispute on how to organize, and no one is discussing on the talk page about it like they're supposed to when this happens. Locking it forces the discussion that was already supposed to be happening. I'll unlock it one there's a WP:CONSENSUS on how to handle it. Sergecross73 msg me 15:22, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

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