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" John Bull, the character representing England who was created by John Arbuthnot in 1712, is almost always depicted in a buff colored waistcoat and a simple frock coat (in the past Navy blue, but more recently with the Union Jack colors)."AngloMania: Tradition and Transgression in British Fashion," Metropolitan Museum of Art (2006), exhibition brochure, p. 2."
Thanks for your message and for the heads-up. I'm sorry that I did not take note of your recent renovations in your SB. I look forward to your new changes, and will hold off until you made them. I trust the entry will become stable enough for the FAC review. Malljaja ( talk) 14:46, 6 August 2012 (UTC)
You are trying to reverse the burden of proof here. The question may rightly be asked whether this quote (and many others) is worthy of inclusion in the first place. The quote lacks context, because there is no prior information about the relationship between Sellers and Wilder—just adding that Wilder was the film's director adds little additional context. And it trivializes a serious event, which is unencyclopaedic. I've re-inserted the quote in question, and I will recuse myself from making further contributions to the entry. I do not see it heading into a direction that I would feel comfortable with. Malljaja ( talk) 00:37, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
Things are looking tense at the moment. Some light relief.♦ Dr. Blofeld 17:05, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for your note, Schro'cat. I stand corrected in so far that you have addressed my earlier issue with the Wilder's quote. It's in good context now, thank you. My main issue is with the structure of the entry. Its current organisation really forces the reader to sift through all of the content, to find, for example, details of Sellers' private life. This, combined with the conversational narrative (which has also improved, but could still be toned more neutral and to the point), makes it read more like a short bio than a encyclopaedic reference. I also find recently added quotes like "the ultimate orgasm" a bit artless, irrespective of the fact that it's sourced to Sikov. I enjoyed reading his take on Sellers, but I couldn't help noticing that he treated him with a good dose of irony that almost bordered on disdain. I know that Lewis apparently was even worse, and I have not read Evans' account. Sellers surely took the cake when it came to eccentricities, but he also had to battle more demons than the average person. Either this should be mentioned (with proper sources) or else some of his apparently egregious behaviours (e.g., his initial attempts at seducing Ekland) be toned down—as a deceased person, he has no way to give his side of these (true, confabulated, or embellished) stories. Lastly, I'd be more open to changes of the infobox, photo, etc.—sometimes it's a good strategy to hand the other side a win every once a while. It frees up valuable energy to focus on more important things. Malljaja ( talk) 00:39, 12 August 2012 (UTC)
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Hi SchroCat. I see you reverted this edit. I've started a talk page discussion. I strongly believe the Smith book is incorrect. The authors do not seem to qualify as "primary source Bond experts." The book contains numerous errors. Further, it's clear to my ears that whoever did Tiger Tanaka's voice did Blofeld's. Listen to the first minute of the documentary "The Man with A Thousand Voices. Part 1". Then listen to this "Eyes Only" clip. This is what Peter Marinker sounds like starting at 0:01:32. - Fanthrillers ( talk) 20:26, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
Not true. I did it!♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:37, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
Time permitting, while you're at the BL, can you also pull any obituaries of British spy author Desmond Skirrow (a.k.a. "John Desmond Skirrow)? He died in 1976 at the relatively young age of 53. Everything about him is now shrouded in mystery. Apparently he lived in Hove Sussex. Fanthrillers ( talk) 16:43, 14 August 2012 (UTC)
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Great job! Hey check out this, that's a Bond villain's lair if ever I've seen one! Naturally the water would be filled with piranha or sharks!♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:33, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
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Thanks! I wonder if Wikiwatcher and Mallaja will try to get it delisted now for being such a dreadful article!♦ Dr. Blofeld 18:07, 19 August 2012 (UTC)
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For reasons that still make no sense, you don't think John Pearson's 1973 Bond book is a novel. After some initially contentious talk page comments we were able to find a solution acceptable to both and so in the process eliminated the previous/next Bond author box. Fanthrillers ( talk) 22:39, 20 August 2012 (UTC) |
I'm sorry about your edit I undid. I'm very new to the process of Wikipedia, and how it works. When I was looking in the RecentChanges section, it appeared that your edit was vandalism. After undoing it, I noticed that it wasn't vandalism, but you quickly and swiftly reverted my error before I could click 'undo'. I'll make sure that mistake never happens again! -- Flying Lambs ( talk) 13:18, 21 August 2012 (UTC)
Hey there. I came across this Bond-related BLP in danger of being deleted, and thought you might be able to help it (given the great work you've done in the past on the topic). I'm on holiday otherwise I might have tried to source it. No obligation of course. Regards, Ruby 2010/ 2013 03:20, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
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The image is of Ben Whishaw as Q, not of the actor out of character. It is a screenshot from the Skyfall trailer. Crumpled Fire ( talk) 23:31, 28 August 2012 (UTC)
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Looking good! Will resume my work on it either tomorrow or the weekend. Been busy with Alcatraz stuff! ♦ Dr. Blofeld 21:32, 6 September 2012 (UTC)
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For what it's worth I believe the article should exist, but if it fails an AfD it might be much harder to bring it into existence at a later point, since there will be a 'consensus' that it shouldn't exist. Editors aren't appreciating the divergent paths of the literary and film creations, so I think it might be wise to move the article into your userspace and close the afd. Once it has reached a point of substantial development it can be copied back over; once you have a 50k page and a ton of book references it will be impossible to argue against its notability. Betty Logan ( talk) 16:37, 10 September 2012 (UTC)
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We seem to be having similar problems with Charl6. (Me at Talk:Prequel.) Since the Wikiquette assistance board has been closed I don't know where to go with this, he's clearly being uncivil but probably not serious enough for ANI. But I'm getting very tired of his namecalling and accusations. He misreads things and then goes off half cocked. Any suggestions? (And you may recall we had a run in a few months ago, but I like to think despite losing my temper briefly I made a bit more sense and was less gratuitously offensive than Charl6). Barsoomian ( talk) 16:07, 20 September 2012 (UTC)
I have acquired George Lucas' Blockbusting this week and noticed it has a section on the performance of the James Bond films. While much of it is consistent with the data at List of James Bond films, there are some notable discrepencies, especially with Live and Let Die (which has always looked a bit dodgy to me), On Her Majesty's Secret Service, and You Only Live Twice. In addition it also provides inflation adjustment to 2005 levels (which while slightly dated might be a more valid approach than using Wikipedia's inflation adjuster—Skyfall could always be deflated to the 2005 level as they do themselves with Casino Royale and Quantum of Solace, and that way we are just adjusting one figure ourselves rather than 22!). Anyway, it's only 3-4 pages, do you want me to scan it in and email it to you through the Wikipedia messaging system? Betty Logan ( talk) 00:29, 21 September 2012 (UTC)
It looks pretty good at the moment. I've dropped in the biblios and the refs—updated with our two new info sources—so both parts of those can be transferred over later too when we do the main transfer. I suggest that we footnote one or two of the very different figures to mention the discrepancy between the two reliable sources we are using and The Numbers. Interesting Barnes & Hearn also back up the same figure for LALD, so we can pile on more evidence later if required. - SchroCat ( ^ • @) 21:36, 22 September 2012 (UTC)
It looks very good and, just from a quick glance at the figures, looks as if it is all correct. I'm not sure how is best to split the table: it's obviously too wide at the moment, and losing only the RT scores would not be enough to reduce it. How about two tables: one with just the figures and one with a combination of synopsis and RT score? There is obviously a fair amount of overlap in terms of names etc, but the important information is kept in both. The only other suggestion would be to remove actor and director details from one of the tables...
==Reception==
===Critical reaction===
Title | Year | Bond actor | Director | Synopsis | Rotten Tomatoes rating |
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===Box office performance===
Title | Year | Bond actor | Director | Box office [1] [2] |
Budget [2] | Salary | Box office |
Budget | Salary |
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Actual $ (millions) | Adjusted 2005 $ (millions) |
Any thoughts? - SchroCat ( ^ • @) 11:46, 25 September 2012 (UTC)
I have outlined a proposal for a potential project that you might be interested in at User:Betty Logan/BRD enforcer. The essence of it is a peer review system in relation to challenged unilateral edits. I realize you've got your hands full at the moment but I thought I'd drop you the link anyway. If you are not interested then no worries, I fully appreciate why someone wouldn't want to become involved in such a project. Basically I'm just the touting the idea at the moment, and if I get a dozen or more sign-ups I'm going to formally propose it as a Wikiproject. If you're not interested in participating but still have any suggestions those would be welcome too. Betty Logan ( talk) 16:06, 21 September 2012 (UTC)
re: this edit. Jon Burlingame's book "The Music of James Bond" mentions Phyllis Hyman's rejected title song on page 264. The song appears to have been an unsolicited submission. Nothing more. No RS for the alleged claim that Legrand threatened to sue if he did not write the song. In fact Burlingame's book seemingly disputes it. The same paragraph you deleted also appears in the Phyllis Hyman article. - Fanthrillers ( talk) 17:29, 29 September 2012 (UTC)
On a slightly separate point, can I ask both our advice on the Connery section of the film analysis? There are a couple of questions:
The Literary section is pretty much done too, but I need to read through again and see what else it misses out, so any comments you have there would also be appreciated! Cheers - SchroCat ( ^ • @) 07:46, 30 September 2012 (UTC)#
Cheers! ♦ Dr. Blofeld 16:19, 28 September 2012 (UTC) |
Looks a good book! I'm creating a Bibliography of encyclopedias at the moment, created film and TV earlier. It occurred to me that we should have a Bibliography of James Bond, all reference books and materials associated with?♦ Dr. Blofeld 17:17, 28 September 2012 (UTC)
If you can think of any more books or find any more books, simply paste the url into the google ref maker, I think I showed you that previously.
I think you should ask for semi-protection again. This is beyond ridiculous. - Fanthrillers ( talk) 22:02, 3 October 2012 (UTC)
I don't like this edit. But before I revert it in its entirety I want to know your opinion. The final revised sentence is especially glaring: "Then, seeing an opportunity to help Shah and his men, Bond then re-activates the bomb and drops it out of the plane, blowing it up a bridge and blocking Soviet troops' pursuit." - Fanthrillers ( talk) 17:32, 4 October 2012 (UTC)
I've read your & Betty Logan's above comments about this website. May as well start a new discussion. Neptune's Trident keeps adding popmatters.com citations to Bond-related articles. The Battle for Bond, Richard Maibaum and Kevin McClory. I'd like to revert him, but want to sound you out first. I note that the user keeps blanking his own talk page which makes assessing his own credibility needlessly difficult. He's gotten many warnings, deletion notices, etc in the year-and-a-half that he's been here. - Fanthrillers ( talk) 17:14, 6 October 2012 (UTC)
Is this article any use? Betty Logan ( talk) 21:35, 6 October 2012 (UTC)
Hi, I noticed you uploaded File:Ursula Andress in Dr. No.jpg today. No real problem but I don't know if you aware that all pre-1978 theatrical trailers without a copyright notice are in the US public domain; in relation to Bond this applies to the trailers for the first three films (Dr No, Russia, Goldfinger). That means you can can upload anything from these trailers to Commons, similar to what I did with File:Dr No trailer.jpg. The upshot of this is that there are free images of Honey Rider emerging from the ocean in the Dr No trailer. Betty Logan ( talk) 15:54, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
Having just had my watchlist fill up with his mis-spelled idiocy, it seems as if Denniss is being a petty little pain in the backside over this, doesn't it! - SchroCat ( ^ • @) 14:38, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
I've temporarily undeleted the four Dr. No trailer images so that you can move them over to Wikipedia, at least while the discussion continues over at Commons. Since you're not active on that project, and temporary deletion only lasts 48 hours, I figured I'd let you know here.
On a related note, please be civil. Even if the people you're dealing with are being less than cooperative or less than civil, name calling isn't an acceptable method of conducting an undeletion discussion. Sven Manguard Wha? 23:58, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
I shouldn't have to ask, but I must. This edit is the culprit. In the U.K., an author novelises a script, and issues a novelization, correct? I've gotten a headache trying to find an authority to support this. Please help. :) - Fanthrillers ( talk) 17:45, 6 October 2012 (UTC)
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Yes, it's nice to get our work there and warrant a popularity spike. Would be nice to have a TFA on Skyfall's release too (though I don't know if you're that interested in putting Ian Fleming against the ropes...). Anyway, let's keep on getting our Bond articles better ( this book appeared and might stimulate me to improve the music articles...). igordebraga ≠ 03:32, 11 October 2012 (UTC)
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I've drafted out the proposal at User:Betty Logan/BRD enforcer#"Request for stable state" project proposal. Hopefully I've addressed any concerns people had, and this is the version that will go before the Wikiproject proposal committee. It's been streamlined a bit to focus on operation and the name has been changed, but other than that it's doing the same job. Anyway, this is a message I'm dropping on everyone's page so they can check it out and make sure they are ok with it. Betty Logan ( talk) 22:58, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
The BBC source also cites the 10 hours so I'll copy that and drop it in next to the Daily Mail source. I'm concerned Daily Mail may not be acceptable for a DYK hook as some people tend to view it less favourably. :) Paul MacDermott ( talk) 21:06, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
This user talk page thread may interest you. I don't think it's Wilson, but an extra set of eyes never hurts. - Fanthrillers ( talk) 00:24, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
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Do you have access to that MOMA brochure? Chrisrus ( talk) 02:08, 5 August 2012 (UTC)
" John Bull, the character representing England who was created by John Arbuthnot in 1712, is almost always depicted in a buff colored waistcoat and a simple frock coat (in the past Navy blue, but more recently with the Union Jack colors)."AngloMania: Tradition and Transgression in British Fashion," Metropolitan Museum of Art (2006), exhibition brochure, p. 2."
Thanks for your message and for the heads-up. I'm sorry that I did not take note of your recent renovations in your SB. I look forward to your new changes, and will hold off until you made them. I trust the entry will become stable enough for the FAC review. Malljaja ( talk) 14:46, 6 August 2012 (UTC)
You are trying to reverse the burden of proof here. The question may rightly be asked whether this quote (and many others) is worthy of inclusion in the first place. The quote lacks context, because there is no prior information about the relationship between Sellers and Wilder—just adding that Wilder was the film's director adds little additional context. And it trivializes a serious event, which is unencyclopaedic. I've re-inserted the quote in question, and I will recuse myself from making further contributions to the entry. I do not see it heading into a direction that I would feel comfortable with. Malljaja ( talk) 00:37, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
Things are looking tense at the moment. Some light relief.♦ Dr. Blofeld 17:05, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for your note, Schro'cat. I stand corrected in so far that you have addressed my earlier issue with the Wilder's quote. It's in good context now, thank you. My main issue is with the structure of the entry. Its current organisation really forces the reader to sift through all of the content, to find, for example, details of Sellers' private life. This, combined with the conversational narrative (which has also improved, but could still be toned more neutral and to the point), makes it read more like a short bio than a encyclopaedic reference. I also find recently added quotes like "the ultimate orgasm" a bit artless, irrespective of the fact that it's sourced to Sikov. I enjoyed reading his take on Sellers, but I couldn't help noticing that he treated him with a good dose of irony that almost bordered on disdain. I know that Lewis apparently was even worse, and I have not read Evans' account. Sellers surely took the cake when it came to eccentricities, but he also had to battle more demons than the average person. Either this should be mentioned (with proper sources) or else some of his apparently egregious behaviours (e.g., his initial attempts at seducing Ekland) be toned down—as a deceased person, he has no way to give his side of these (true, confabulated, or embellished) stories. Lastly, I'd be more open to changes of the infobox, photo, etc.—sometimes it's a good strategy to hand the other side a win every once a while. It frees up valuable energy to focus on more important things. Malljaja ( talk) 00:39, 12 August 2012 (UTC)
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Hi SchroCat. I see you reverted this edit. I've started a talk page discussion. I strongly believe the Smith book is incorrect. The authors do not seem to qualify as "primary source Bond experts." The book contains numerous errors. Further, it's clear to my ears that whoever did Tiger Tanaka's voice did Blofeld's. Listen to the first minute of the documentary "The Man with A Thousand Voices. Part 1". Then listen to this "Eyes Only" clip. This is what Peter Marinker sounds like starting at 0:01:32. - Fanthrillers ( talk) 20:26, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
Not true. I did it!♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:37, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
Time permitting, while you're at the BL, can you also pull any obituaries of British spy author Desmond Skirrow (a.k.a. "John Desmond Skirrow)? He died in 1976 at the relatively young age of 53. Everything about him is now shrouded in mystery. Apparently he lived in Hove Sussex. Fanthrillers ( talk) 16:43, 14 August 2012 (UTC)
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Great job! Hey check out this, that's a Bond villain's lair if ever I've seen one! Naturally the water would be filled with piranha or sharks!♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:33, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
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The article John Gardner (British writer) you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:John Gardner (British writer) for comments about the article. Well done! Kürbis ( ✔) 13:39, 18 August 2012 (UTC)
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Thanks! I wonder if Wikiwatcher and Mallaja will try to get it delisted now for being such a dreadful article!♦ Dr. Blofeld 18:07, 19 August 2012 (UTC)
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For reasons that still make no sense, you don't think John Pearson's 1973 Bond book is a novel. After some initially contentious talk page comments we were able to find a solution acceptable to both and so in the process eliminated the previous/next Bond author box. Fanthrillers ( talk) 22:39, 20 August 2012 (UTC) |
I'm sorry about your edit I undid. I'm very new to the process of Wikipedia, and how it works. When I was looking in the RecentChanges section, it appeared that your edit was vandalism. After undoing it, I noticed that it wasn't vandalism, but you quickly and swiftly reverted my error before I could click 'undo'. I'll make sure that mistake never happens again! -- Flying Lambs ( talk) 13:18, 21 August 2012 (UTC)
Hey there. I came across this Bond-related BLP in danger of being deleted, and thought you might be able to help it (given the great work you've done in the past on the topic). I'm on holiday otherwise I might have tried to source it. No obligation of course. Regards, Ruby 2010/ 2013 03:20, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
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The image is of Ben Whishaw as Q, not of the actor out of character. It is a screenshot from the Skyfall trailer. Crumpled Fire ( talk) 23:31, 28 August 2012 (UTC)
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Many thanks! - Fanthrillers ( talk) 20:13, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
Looking good! Will resume my work on it either tomorrow or the weekend. Been busy with Alcatraz stuff! ♦ Dr. Blofeld 21:32, 6 September 2012 (UTC)
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For what it's worth I believe the article should exist, but if it fails an AfD it might be much harder to bring it into existence at a later point, since there will be a 'consensus' that it shouldn't exist. Editors aren't appreciating the divergent paths of the literary and film creations, so I think it might be wise to move the article into your userspace and close the afd. Once it has reached a point of substantial development it can be copied back over; once you have a 50k page and a ton of book references it will be impossible to argue against its notability. Betty Logan ( talk) 16:37, 10 September 2012 (UTC)
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Of course I'll help with that, even if getting a star by the anniversary is improbable. Also, try and get Blofeld to answer to the Signpost (there are interviews with just 2, but as this proves, a third always improves things). igordebraga ≠ 16:27, 17 September 2012 (UTC)
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We seem to be having similar problems with Charl6. (Me at Talk:Prequel.) Since the Wikiquette assistance board has been closed I don't know where to go with this, he's clearly being uncivil but probably not serious enough for ANI. But I'm getting very tired of his namecalling and accusations. He misreads things and then goes off half cocked. Any suggestions? (And you may recall we had a run in a few months ago, but I like to think despite losing my temper briefly I made a bit more sense and was less gratuitously offensive than Charl6). Barsoomian ( talk) 16:07, 20 September 2012 (UTC)
I have acquired George Lucas' Blockbusting this week and noticed it has a section on the performance of the James Bond films. While much of it is consistent with the data at List of James Bond films, there are some notable discrepencies, especially with Live and Let Die (which has always looked a bit dodgy to me), On Her Majesty's Secret Service, and You Only Live Twice. In addition it also provides inflation adjustment to 2005 levels (which while slightly dated might be a more valid approach than using Wikipedia's inflation adjuster—Skyfall could always be deflated to the 2005 level as they do themselves with Casino Royale and Quantum of Solace, and that way we are just adjusting one figure ourselves rather than 22!). Anyway, it's only 3-4 pages, do you want me to scan it in and email it to you through the Wikipedia messaging system? Betty Logan ( talk) 00:29, 21 September 2012 (UTC)
It looks pretty good at the moment. I've dropped in the biblios and the refs—updated with our two new info sources—so both parts of those can be transferred over later too when we do the main transfer. I suggest that we footnote one or two of the very different figures to mention the discrepancy between the two reliable sources we are using and The Numbers. Interesting Barnes & Hearn also back up the same figure for LALD, so we can pile on more evidence later if required. - SchroCat ( ^ • @) 21:36, 22 September 2012 (UTC)
It looks very good and, just from a quick glance at the figures, looks as if it is all correct. I'm not sure how is best to split the table: it's obviously too wide at the moment, and losing only the RT scores would not be enough to reduce it. How about two tables: one with just the figures and one with a combination of synopsis and RT score? There is obviously a fair amount of overlap in terms of names etc, but the important information is kept in both. The only other suggestion would be to remove actor and director details from one of the tables...
==Reception==
===Critical reaction===
Title | Year | Bond actor | Director | Synopsis | Rotten Tomatoes rating |
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===Box office performance===
Title | Year | Bond actor | Director | Box office [1] [2] |
Budget [2] | Salary | Box office |
Budget | Salary |
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Actual $ (millions) | Adjusted 2005 $ (millions) |
Any thoughts? - SchroCat ( ^ • @) 11:46, 25 September 2012 (UTC)
I have outlined a proposal for a potential project that you might be interested in at User:Betty Logan/BRD enforcer. The essence of it is a peer review system in relation to challenged unilateral edits. I realize you've got your hands full at the moment but I thought I'd drop you the link anyway. If you are not interested then no worries, I fully appreciate why someone wouldn't want to become involved in such a project. Basically I'm just the touting the idea at the moment, and if I get a dozen or more sign-ups I'm going to formally propose it as a Wikiproject. If you're not interested in participating but still have any suggestions those would be welcome too. Betty Logan ( talk) 16:06, 21 September 2012 (UTC)
re: this edit. Jon Burlingame's book "The Music of James Bond" mentions Phyllis Hyman's rejected title song on page 264. The song appears to have been an unsolicited submission. Nothing more. No RS for the alleged claim that Legrand threatened to sue if he did not write the song. In fact Burlingame's book seemingly disputes it. The same paragraph you deleted also appears in the Phyllis Hyman article. - Fanthrillers ( talk) 17:29, 29 September 2012 (UTC)
On a slightly separate point, can I ask both our advice on the Connery section of the film analysis? There are a couple of questions:
The Literary section is pretty much done too, but I need to read through again and see what else it misses out, so any comments you have there would also be appreciated! Cheers - SchroCat ( ^ • @) 07:46, 30 September 2012 (UTC)#
Cheers! ♦ Dr. Blofeld 16:19, 28 September 2012 (UTC) |
Looks a good book! I'm creating a Bibliography of encyclopedias at the moment, created film and TV earlier. It occurred to me that we should have a Bibliography of James Bond, all reference books and materials associated with?♦ Dr. Blofeld 17:17, 28 September 2012 (UTC)
If you can think of any more books or find any more books, simply paste the url into the google ref maker, I think I showed you that previously.
I think you should ask for semi-protection again. This is beyond ridiculous. - Fanthrillers ( talk) 22:02, 3 October 2012 (UTC)
I don't like this edit. But before I revert it in its entirety I want to know your opinion. The final revised sentence is especially glaring: "Then, seeing an opportunity to help Shah and his men, Bond then re-activates the bomb and drops it out of the plane, blowing it up a bridge and blocking Soviet troops' pursuit." - Fanthrillers ( talk) 17:32, 4 October 2012 (UTC)
I've read your & Betty Logan's above comments about this website. May as well start a new discussion. Neptune's Trident keeps adding popmatters.com citations to Bond-related articles. The Battle for Bond, Richard Maibaum and Kevin McClory. I'd like to revert him, but want to sound you out first. I note that the user keeps blanking his own talk page which makes assessing his own credibility needlessly difficult. He's gotten many warnings, deletion notices, etc in the year-and-a-half that he's been here. - Fanthrillers ( talk) 17:14, 6 October 2012 (UTC)
Is this article any use? Betty Logan ( talk) 21:35, 6 October 2012 (UTC)
Hi, I noticed you uploaded File:Ursula Andress in Dr. No.jpg today. No real problem but I don't know if you aware that all pre-1978 theatrical trailers without a copyright notice are in the US public domain; in relation to Bond this applies to the trailers for the first three films (Dr No, Russia, Goldfinger). That means you can can upload anything from these trailers to Commons, similar to what I did with File:Dr No trailer.jpg. The upshot of this is that there are free images of Honey Rider emerging from the ocean in the Dr No trailer. Betty Logan ( talk) 15:54, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
Having just had my watchlist fill up with his mis-spelled idiocy, it seems as if Denniss is being a petty little pain in the backside over this, doesn't it! - SchroCat ( ^ • @) 14:38, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
I've temporarily undeleted the four Dr. No trailer images so that you can move them over to Wikipedia, at least while the discussion continues over at Commons. Since you're not active on that project, and temporary deletion only lasts 48 hours, I figured I'd let you know here.
On a related note, please be civil. Even if the people you're dealing with are being less than cooperative or less than civil, name calling isn't an acceptable method of conducting an undeletion discussion. Sven Manguard Wha? 23:58, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
I shouldn't have to ask, but I must. This edit is the culprit. In the U.K., an author novelises a script, and issues a novelization, correct? I've gotten a headache trying to find an authority to support this. Please help. :) - Fanthrillers ( talk) 17:45, 6 October 2012 (UTC)
The Editor's Barnstar | |
For incredible patience in dealing with a stream of unsolicited edits to release dates on the Skyfall page. Prisonermonkeys ( talk) 00:19, 10 October 2012 (UTC) |
Yes, it's nice to get our work there and warrant a popularity spike. Would be nice to have a TFA on Skyfall's release too (though I don't know if you're that interested in putting Ian Fleming against the ropes...). Anyway, let's keep on getting our Bond articles better ( this book appeared and might stimulate me to improve the music articles...). igordebraga ≠ 03:32, 11 October 2012 (UTC)
The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar | ||
A belated barnstar in recognition of your work on Roald Dahl reverting nonsensical and malicious edits. - Fanthrillers ( talk) 23:04, 11 October 2012 (UTC) |
I've drafted out the proposal at User:Betty Logan/BRD enforcer#"Request for stable state" project proposal. Hopefully I've addressed any concerns people had, and this is the version that will go before the Wikiproject proposal committee. It's been streamlined a bit to focus on operation and the name has been changed, but other than that it's doing the same job. Anyway, this is a message I'm dropping on everyone's page so they can check it out and make sure they are ok with it. Betty Logan ( talk) 22:58, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
The BBC source also cites the 10 hours so I'll copy that and drop it in next to the Daily Mail source. I'm concerned Daily Mail may not be acceptable for a DYK hook as some people tend to view it less favourably. :) Paul MacDermott ( talk) 21:06, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
This user talk page thread may interest you. I don't think it's Wilson, but an extra set of eyes never hurts. - Fanthrillers ( talk) 00:24, 17 October 2012 (UTC)