 | Below are answers to frequently asked questions about the corresponding page User:Sagittarian Milky Way/sandbox2. They address concerns, questions, and misconceptions which have repeatedly arisen on the talk page. Please feel free to change this material in light of new discussion. |
A1: Wikipedia's Manual of Style recommends the use of whatever unit is locally predominant. It does say that conversions to the other measurement system should be given and the article does so.
Keepin' it real: The guideline that calls the shots here has been extensively discussed, it's not changing anytime soon.
A2: Most likely your addition/change either was unsourced, cited an unreliable source or one that is not a subject-matter expert in the field of skyscrapers, or wasn't reasonably germane to this article in particular. In addition, there's already articles on architecture of New York City and history of New York City, in addition to many other subject area specific NYC articles. Unless the information is pertinent to this subject in particular it probably belongs elsewhere.
Keepin' it real: We can add stuff, but it must be relevant, notable, and well-sourced.
A3: Floor counts may differ among published reliable sources, and among different Wikipedia articles for a number of reasons, depending on how mechanical floors, enclosed and unenclosed voids, mezzanines, basement levels, small above roof rooms and over-height lobbies are counted. It is also not uncommon to exclude numbers like 13 or even anything with a 4 in it that result in reduced per unit sale/rental price for superstitious reasons. Finally, the ownership or marketing team of a skyscraper may number floors in order to achieve its own objectives resulting in a count that differs significantly from the actual number of physical floors present in the building. We follow the CTBUH which is the gold standard of skyscraper heights.
Keepin' it real: There's no universally agreed upon way to count floors, so we just go with the source that awards the world's tallest building record, because, hey, it works.
A4: Height discrepancies sometimes occur depending on whether the source is measuring to the building's top floor, roof, bulkhead, the curtain wall promontory, or the tip of whatever mechanical masts are present at the top of the building. Sometimes measurement is started from the lowest point on the base, sometimes the lowest entrance, the lowest significant entrance, or the average level of the base is used. Also be aware that permit heights are often listed as "absolute heights" or elevations, that is the official height of the building measured from sea level. Although the majority of Manhattan lies at or near sea level, certain buildings can appear significantly taller based on this measurement. For example, Central Park Tower's permits show an absolute height of 1,630 feet but a building height of 1,550 feet due to the fact that it's site is roughly 80 feet above sea level. CTBUH's height measurement points are used cause again, they award the world's tallest building record.
Keepin' it real: There's no universally agreed upon way to measure building height. A difference of an inch in choosing a measuring point can possibly make sources appear to show a difference of a foot or meter once rounded. We tend to defer to what the experts on this subject have to say.
A5: Well it kind of is and it kind of isn't, and that isn't really a question anyway. In terms of readable prose the article is actually hyper-short. The main list requires a lot of scrolling due to the number of entries but if we made the rows smaller it would make the text much harder to read, and shrink the images to the point where it would be hard to see any detail.
Keepin' it real: New York City has a lot of skyscrapers, you should expect to do some scrollin'.
| Below are answers to frequently asked questions about the corresponding page User:Sagittarian Milky Way/sandbox2. They address concerns, questions, and misconceptions which have repeatedly arisen on the talk page. Please feel free to change this material in light of new discussion. |
A1: Wikipedia's Manual of Style recommends the use of whatever unit is locally predominant. It does say that conversions to the other measurement system should be given and the article does so.
Keepin' it real: The guideline that calls the shots here has been extensively discussed, it's not changing anytime soon.
A2: Most likely your addition/change either was unsourced, cited an unreliable source or one that is not a subject-matter expert in the field of skyscrapers, or wasn't reasonably germane to this article in particular. In addition, there's already articles on architecture of New York City and history of New York City, in addition to many other subject area specific NYC articles. Unless the information is pertinent to this subject in particular it probably belongs elsewhere.
Keepin' it real: We can add stuff, but it must be relevant, notable, and well-sourced.
A3: Floor counts may differ among published reliable sources, and among different Wikipedia articles for a number of reasons, depending on how mechanical floors, enclosed and unenclosed voids, mezzanines, basement levels, small above roof rooms and over-height lobbies are counted. It is also not uncommon to exclude numbers like 13 or even anything with a 4 in it that result in reduced per unit sale/rental price for superstitious reasons. Finally, the ownership or marketing team of a skyscraper may number floors in order to achieve its own objectives resulting in a count that differs significantly from the actual number of physical floors present in the building. We follow the CTBUH which is the gold standard of skyscraper heights.
Keepin' it real: There's no universally agreed upon way to count floors, so we just go with the source that awards the world's tallest building record, because, hey, it works.
A4: Height discrepancies sometimes occur depending on whether the source is measuring to the building's top floor, roof, bulkhead, the curtain wall promontory, or the tip of whatever mechanical masts are present at the top of the building. Sometimes measurement is started from the lowest point on the base, sometimes the lowest entrance, the lowest significant entrance, or the average level of the base is used. Also be aware that permit heights are often listed as "absolute heights" or elevations, that is the official height of the building measured from sea level. Although the majority of Manhattan lies at or near sea level, certain buildings can appear significantly taller based on this measurement. For example, Central Park Tower's permits show an absolute height of 1,630 feet but a building height of 1,550 feet due to the fact that it's site is roughly 80 feet above sea level. CTBUH's height measurement points are used cause again, they award the world's tallest building record.
Keepin' it real: There's no universally agreed upon way to measure building height. A difference of an inch in choosing a measuring point can possibly make sources appear to show a difference of a foot or meter once rounded. We tend to defer to what the experts on this subject have to say.
A5: Well it kind of is and it kind of isn't, and that isn't really a question anyway. In terms of readable prose the article is actually hyper-short. The main list requires a lot of scrolling due to the number of entries but if we made the rows smaller it would make the text much harder to read, and shrink the images to the point where it would be hard to see any detail.
Keepin' it real: New York City has a lot of skyscrapers, you should expect to do some scrollin'.