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I have SEEN Marianna or, if you like, Марианна, listed as a rare name, but one in use in Russia. This woman is one example: Marianne Pistohlkors. Her real name was Marianna Erikovna Pistohlkors, she was born and raised in Russia and was connected to the royal family. Her father was apparently ethnically German, but one who spoke Russian as his native language. Unless you happen to be an expert in Russian etymology, I suggest you leave it alone. -- Bookworm857158367 ( talk) 16:37, 7 February 2010 (UTC) reply

I'd also add that name use evolves. Prior to the early 20th century the name Viktoria was not in use in Russia although the name Viktor was. Then one of the grand dukes married Princess Victoria Melita, known as Grand Duchess Viktoria Feodorovna in Russia, and I'd guess that was the impetus behind the name's becoming more popular in Russia. As for Marianna, I recall also seeing it a couple of years ago as the name of a little girl born in Russia who was adopted by an American couple. They explained when I questioned the choice that Marianna is a very rare name but one that is used in Russia. Now it's possible that the name may derive from the Roman Marius and not a form of Mary and Anna, but that's also an argument made about the name in the English language. It seems that it could be derived from several possible root names. -- Bookworm857158367 ( talk) 18:02, 7 February 2010 (UTC) reply
Yes. You're right. But theese names are NOT transformed name Anna. -- RussianSpy ( talk) 20:21, 7 February 2010 (UTC) reply
I've given you examples of it being used. It's just a very rare name. And no, I don't agree to it being removed. -- Bookworm857158367 ( talk) 21:29, 7 February 2010 (UTC) reply

Etymology of names

I have to agree with the owner of this page here, Bookworm. I know you've had your fights and you're a tough scrapper--I admire. Here, however, I think you ought not throw into people's faces that you are allegedly some kind of expert in Russian language and history. You have an abrasive way of stating things that you think may be correct. This Mariana issue is one of them. I'd say YOU'D best leave this issue alone--you are beginning to remind me of Aggiebean! 76.195.83.61 ( talk) 14:04, 19 February 2010 (UTC) reply

OK. People who dont speak Russian and who've never been in Russia knows better than me - Russian. Funny encyclopedia... -- RussianSpy ( talk) 14:13, 19 February 2010 (UTC) reply
  • No, my friend, if you are Russian speaker I respect that! I do not say it about you. I say Bookworm is not correct here. Also I agree and say Mariana is not traditionally Russian name...I agree that it does NOT change to ANNA. Dos vidanya. 76.195.83.61 ( talk) 15:10, 19 February 2010 (UTC) reply
Спасибо за поддержку. Thank you -- RussianSpy ( talk) 17:51, 19 February 2010 (UTC) reply
Because it is a rare name in use in Russia. Marianne Pistolkors is the example I gave you before. It's a combination of the names Mary and Anne. I don't agree with its removal. -- Bookworm857158367 ( talk) 12:39, 2 November 2010 (UTC) reply
Listen. This woman wasnt Russian. She was Latvian - small nation on the territory of the Russian Empire. On the territory of Russia on their native lands live lots of different nations: tatars, chechens, chukchas, etc. And they are all have their own languages and names. So in Russian language, Russian culture, Russian nation there is no name Marianna. The next question is ref link - there is no proof of using this name in Russia. I copied a piece of that page here, read it: "MARIANNA Gender: Feminine

Usage: Italian, English, Hungarian, Slovak, Polish, Greek Other Scripts: Μαριαννα (Greek)". There is no Russian in the list. -- RussianSpy ( talk) 12:45, 2 November 2010 (UTC) reply

Привет русский шпион! Не тратьте время на споры с сумасшедшей женщиной. Вы всегда будете неправильно ее. Пожалуйста, простите мой плохой русский! 75.21.158.211 ( talk) 17:00, 2 February 2011 (UTC) reply
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I have SEEN Marianna or, if you like, Марианна, listed as a rare name, but one in use in Russia. This woman is one example: Marianne Pistohlkors. Her real name was Marianna Erikovna Pistohlkors, she was born and raised in Russia and was connected to the royal family. Her father was apparently ethnically German, but one who spoke Russian as his native language. Unless you happen to be an expert in Russian etymology, I suggest you leave it alone. -- Bookworm857158367 ( talk) 16:37, 7 February 2010 (UTC) reply

I'd also add that name use evolves. Prior to the early 20th century the name Viktoria was not in use in Russia although the name Viktor was. Then one of the grand dukes married Princess Victoria Melita, known as Grand Duchess Viktoria Feodorovna in Russia, and I'd guess that was the impetus behind the name's becoming more popular in Russia. As for Marianna, I recall also seeing it a couple of years ago as the name of a little girl born in Russia who was adopted by an American couple. They explained when I questioned the choice that Marianna is a very rare name but one that is used in Russia. Now it's possible that the name may derive from the Roman Marius and not a form of Mary and Anna, but that's also an argument made about the name in the English language. It seems that it could be derived from several possible root names. -- Bookworm857158367 ( talk) 18:02, 7 February 2010 (UTC) reply
Yes. You're right. But theese names are NOT transformed name Anna. -- RussianSpy ( talk) 20:21, 7 February 2010 (UTC) reply
I've given you examples of it being used. It's just a very rare name. And no, I don't agree to it being removed. -- Bookworm857158367 ( talk) 21:29, 7 February 2010 (UTC) reply

Etymology of names

I have to agree with the owner of this page here, Bookworm. I know you've had your fights and you're a tough scrapper--I admire. Here, however, I think you ought not throw into people's faces that you are allegedly some kind of expert in Russian language and history. You have an abrasive way of stating things that you think may be correct. This Mariana issue is one of them. I'd say YOU'D best leave this issue alone--you are beginning to remind me of Aggiebean! 76.195.83.61 ( talk) 14:04, 19 February 2010 (UTC) reply

OK. People who dont speak Russian and who've never been in Russia knows better than me - Russian. Funny encyclopedia... -- RussianSpy ( talk) 14:13, 19 February 2010 (UTC) reply
  • No, my friend, if you are Russian speaker I respect that! I do not say it about you. I say Bookworm is not correct here. Also I agree and say Mariana is not traditionally Russian name...I agree that it does NOT change to ANNA. Dos vidanya. 76.195.83.61 ( talk) 15:10, 19 February 2010 (UTC) reply
Спасибо за поддержку. Thank you -- RussianSpy ( talk) 17:51, 19 February 2010 (UTC) reply
Because it is a rare name in use in Russia. Marianne Pistolkors is the example I gave you before. It's a combination of the names Mary and Anne. I don't agree with its removal. -- Bookworm857158367 ( talk) 12:39, 2 November 2010 (UTC) reply
Listen. This woman wasnt Russian. She was Latvian - small nation on the territory of the Russian Empire. On the territory of Russia on their native lands live lots of different nations: tatars, chechens, chukchas, etc. And they are all have their own languages and names. So in Russian language, Russian culture, Russian nation there is no name Marianna. The next question is ref link - there is no proof of using this name in Russia. I copied a piece of that page here, read it: "MARIANNA Gender: Feminine

Usage: Italian, English, Hungarian, Slovak, Polish, Greek Other Scripts: Μαριαννα (Greek)". There is no Russian in the list. -- RussianSpy ( talk) 12:45, 2 November 2010 (UTC) reply

Привет русский шпион! Не тратьте время на споры с сумасшедшей женщиной. Вы всегда будете неправильно ее. Пожалуйста, простите мой плохой русский! 75.21.158.211 ( talk) 17:00, 2 February 2011 (UTC) reply

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