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Hello Ronjohn. I noticed you, or another editor created a Requests for Adminship page under your name, and I was wondering as to what the status of that request might be. Please note that new users are rarely successful at RfA and that the Wikipedia editing community sets an extremely high bar for potential administrator candidates. That being said, I strongly urge you to read Wikipedia:Guide to requests for adminship, Wikipedia:Adminship is not for new users, and Wikipedia:Not now, and ask you to reconsider whether you really do wish to go through with your candidacy; please understand that you stand very little to no chance of passing RfA at this point and that you are strongly discouraged from running for adminship. If you are still intent on running for adminship with that request and are absolutely positive this is what you want, please do let me know; otherwise, I'll go ahead and delete the RfA page for you in about a week or so from today. Eagles  24/7  (C) 19:49, 24 March 2012 (UTC) reply

If you are determined to run for adminship despite my advice, you will need to transclude your RfA at WP:RFA by following the instructions at WP:RFA/N. Eagles  24/7  (C) 21:28, 24 March 2012 (UTC) reply
Failure to listen to wise counsel would not only torpedo this RFA, but any future one. Actually running for RFA when you don't meet even the most minimum of criteria would probably add another 12,000 required edits and at least a year before you could even think of trying again. RFA is not a big deal - but the community is pretty serious about how it selects admins ( talk→  BWilkins  ←track) 22:45, 24 March 2012 (UTC) reply
Seriously, Ronjohn, you really have to read WP:NOTNOW. While policy doesn't explicitly say it, you will look pretty bad if you don't. Jasper Deng (talk) 00:35, 25 March 2012 (UTC) reply

Hi there. I noticed you put your RfA inside of someone else's RfA, which I've undone. I see other editors above have suggested you might want to wait until you have more experience before you request adminship; I agree with them 100% and hope you will listen to their advice. 28bytes ( talk) 00:34, 25 March 2012 (UTC) reply

I'll give you 24hrs to properly transclude your RFA. If after that it's still non-transcluded, we can readily assume it can be deleted. It's been "in progress" long enough ( talk→  BWilkins  ←track) 23:41, 25 March 2012 (UTC) reply

RfA

If you want to activate your request for adminship, you need to go to this page and place:

{{Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Ronjohn}}

under the section that ends:

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Catfish Jim and the soapdish 22:16, 26 March 2012 (UTC) reply



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Please see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Terry Lakin.  Sandstein  17:59, 20 September 2010 (UTC) reply

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Removing Speedy at V-Nasty

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Nomination of V-Nasty for deletion

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A tag has been placed on Jimmy Henchman requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a person or group of people, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable.

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The article Jimmy Henchman has been proposed for deletion because, under Wikipedia policy, all newly created biographies of living persons must have at least one reference to a reliable source that directly supports material in the article.

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A tag has been placed on Jimmy Henchman requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a person or group of people, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable.

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RfA closed per WP:NOTNOW

I'm sorry, but I have closed your RfA early. I hope you don't take this personally, because if you were to continue to contribute to Wikipedia in a positive manner, you would be able to submit a successful RfA in the future. Good luck! B music ian 04:26, 27 March 2012 (UTC) reply

This is somewhat unfortunate. WP:NOTNOW is really intended for situations in which an inexperienced editor strays into RFA without knowing what they are getting into. Ronjohn was given ample warning that his RFA had little chance of success but was insistent that it went ahead. I had hoped the RFA would have been allowed to run long enough to make it clear that the intention behind the advice offered was genuine.
Catfish Jim and the soapdish 09:35, 27 March 2012 (UTC) reply
Both ronjohn and I have asked Bmusician to undo the early close ( talk→  BWilkins  ←track) 09:38, 27 March 2012 (UTC) reply

RfA reopened

Per your request, I have reopened your RfA. Best of luck. Also, please don't use capital letters on my talk page...that can be perceived as shouting... B music ian 09:53, 27 March 2012 (UTC) reply

Your recent RfA

I am sorry, but I have closed your Request for adminship prematurely. Simply put, you only have 842 edits on Wikipedia; while your edit count isn't the only determining factor, and numerous people have their own personal standards by which they judge RfA candidates, this particular RfA was all but assured of not passing.

I am sorry about this, and I hope you don't take it personally. If you continue to contribute to the project in a positive fashion, I am confident that you would be able to submit a successful RfA in the future. You may wish to consider applying for an evaluation by other Wikipedia editors for feedback on how to obtain the necessary experience. Once you are ready to request adminship again, there is a great admin coaching program available, as well as a guide to requests for adminship.

If you have any other questions about becoming an administrator, please don't hesitate to ask me. Good luck! — Tom Morris ( talk) 14:19, 27 March 2012 (UTC) reply

Hi Ronjohn. I notice that you requested that your RfA was kept open when it had previously been closed. Tom closed it as it was definitely not going to pass, meaning that keeping it open is disruptive - effectively using the ignore all rules clause which one of Wikipedia's principles. I was in the process of doing exactly the same myself, but got called away from my desk.
This doesn't mean that you will never become an administrator, but I think you'll need to change your attitude a little before you do become one. And even if you don't, there's plenty to do here instead. If you'd like to discuss things further, feel free to give me a shout. Cheers WormTT · ( talk) 14:54, 27 March 2012 (UTC) reply

Per your message on Tom Morris' talk page:


You are being treated the same as anyone else. It is in nobody's interest to keep an RFA open when it is clear it has no chance whatsoever to succeed. The initial WP:NOTNOW was applied prematurely, given your apparent refusal to accept the advice offered by others that it would not succeed. After 23 opposes and no supports, WP:SNOW is clearly in effect. Catfish Jim and the soapdish 15:19, 27 March 2012 (UTC) reply

Hey Ronjohn. I'm sorry this has worked out so badly for you. Can I just say, here and now, there was absolutely nothing wrong with you submitting that RfA. Anyone wanting to take that up, can take it up with me. You do not need any "approval" from anyone to run for RfA. However, it was doomed to failure - as a number of editors have told you. These editors have watched many RfAs, and can see general trends. In fact, I've done a lot of research on RfA, which can be found at RfA Reform. When it is clear that something is going to fail, we do stop the process, because there is no good reason to carry it on - which is something that's happened here. Now, we let it run for a while to show it was going to fail, but carrying it on for a week would just be bureaucracy for the sake of it. This would be true for any editor, and I can give you a number of examples if you like.

With regards to the "attitude" comment, (at least in theory) Wikipedia is a community, no one voice is more important than others. It's the points that are made that matter. However, when one voice ignores what the community as a whole is telling them, it causes disruption. That doesn't mean you are wrong, or that you have to lie about your views, but what it does mean is that you have to accept that the rest of the community is saying and give it a rest. I've got your page watchlisted, I'll try to help out if I can. WormTT · ( talk) 07:57, 28 March 2012 (UTC) reply

Sarge - Barnstars for you!

Sarge, You've been doing some good edits, so a hefty Barnstarr to, you! Gimme a call and we can work on wiki projects as you indicated — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.14.36.165 ( talk) 22:30, 5 April 2012 (UTC) reply

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Request reason:

I did nothing wrong I was told by a Wikipedia editor that I could use youtube as a reference here: "Because we don't allow youtube videos as reliable sources, it would only be of use if it was Lola herself saying "I was a stripper". If she was a stripper, there will be a real source out there somewhere. I will say it again, revert yourself immediately-- Jac16888 Talk 00:08, 24 March 2012 (UTC)" and I did just that with a bit of coatracking, but I didn't know what coatracking was until after, so when another editor changed my edit a bit I left it alone then another editor came by and removed it all together with no explanation or discussion. Bwilkins has been targeting me ever since I put a RFA in. I'm not sure why. reply

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You were blocked for edit-warring. You do not seem to understand what edit-warring is. Please familiarize yourself with WP:Edit warring. No unblock request will be successful if you insist you did nothing wrong despite the clear evidence in the article history that you did. 28bytes ( talk) 14:22, 6 April 2012 (UTC) reply


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Sarge, the rest of us have your back. Your rationale speaks to the good in all men. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.14.36.165 ( talk) 19:55, 6 April 2012 (UTC) reply

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May 2012

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Nomination of Jimmy Henchman for deletion

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Christopher Dorner

Ronjohn, please wait for a consensus before restoring Christopher Jordan Dorner.

As I pointed out to you, under WP:PERP:

A person who is known only in connection with a criminal event or trial should not normally be the subject of a separate Wikipedia article if there is an existing article that could incorporate the available encyclopedic material relating to that person.

Therefore, any information on Dorner should be placed in the existing 2013 Southern California shootings article, because Dorner is not known for anything outside the shootings, and he is directly relevant to the article.

Furthermore, WP:PERP says the following:

A living person accused of a crime is presumed not guilty unless and until this is decided by a court of law. Editors must give serious consideration to not creating an article on an alleged perpetrator when no conviction is yet secured.

Dorner's guilt has not been proven by a court of law. He has only been named as the suspect in the shootings. To create an article on him implies that he is guilty before he has had a chance to stand trial.

Now, to address your point about James Eagen Holmes, who has a page despite only being known for his crime.

Firstly, Holmes has been formally charged and ordered to stand trial. Dorner, on the other hand, is currently a fugitive. His guilt has not been proven; for all we know, someone killed him a month ago and took advantage of his emotional state to write up a phony manifesto and carry out a spree killing against the LAPD. I know that sounds like bad fiction (it's straight off the top of my head), but we can't prove that it is not the case. The page on Dorner should not be created until such time as he is committed to stand trial. To create a page beforehand presumes that he is guilty, which is not the way the legal system works - even if the case against Dorner never examines Wikipedia.
Secondly, the current version of Holmes' page weighs in at 41,217kB. In other words, there is more than enough content on that page to justify a split from the 2012 Aurora shootings article. On the other hand, your work on a Dorner page is just 1,210kB. Compared to Holmes, we know nothing almost about Dorner.

Finally, I feel I should inform you that constantly reverting the edits to Christopher Jordan Dorner so that it is its own page (rather than a redirect) is edit-warring, and may get you referred to the adminstrators and possibly blocked from editing. Prisonermonkeys ( talk) 07:22, 8 February 2013 (UTC) reply

1) The discussion to gather consensus is here.
2) We cannot create a page for Dorner on the basis that he might be killed before he stands trial. That is a case of trying to predict the future, which is not what Wikipedia is for.
3) There is nothing known about Dorner that cannot go in the article about his alleged crimes.
4) Of course I'm not an admin. I wouldn't be an admin even if they paid me to do it.
In the meantime, I have put in a request for page protection on the Dorner "article". Prisonermonkeys ( talk) 11:54, 8 February 2013 (UTC) reply
I requested that you stop editing the page to form an article of its own, and instead go to Talk:Christopher Jordan Dorner to discuss creating a full page there. Prisonermonkeys ( talk) 11:59, 8 February 2013 (UTC) reply

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Your RFA

Hi Ronjohn,

as you may have noticed at WP:ORCP, attempting a RFA right now would be a lost cause. And would likely actually engender some ill will against you. Would you like me to delete the RFA page you created? If you decide to try again after addressing some of the problems described at WP:NOTYET, you can always recreate one in the future. -- Floquenbeam ( talk) 15:10, 23 September 2020 (UTC) reply

I'm trying to be polite and yet still be clear. There is a zero percent chance of your RFA passing right now. You don't have 1/10th the minimum expected edit count. Please read the advice in the section below, and the advice in WP:NOTYET. If you try to start it anyway, it will be closed by someone else in a couple of hours, and people will think poorly of you - because your judgement in starting it would be bad - and that opinion could linger for quite a while. That would be a shame, and a waste. So your choices are basically:
  1. Start the RFA anyway, and it will tank.
  2. Ask an admin to delete it, and then it will be as if you never created it.
  3. Ask an admin to move it to your user space, and then you can work on in sometime in the future (to be honest, I'm thinking a minimum of 1-2 years).
  4. Continue to not respond, and the MFD will likely result in option 2 or 3.
I'd recommend options 2 or 3 equally, whichever you like better. Please let me know (or any admin, if you prefer dealing with someone else). -- Floquenbeam ( talk) 15:44, 28 September 2020 (UTC) reply

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Having labeled this section as I have, I should go on to say that while there are no firmly laid down requirements, there are a number of expectations held by users here; failing on these will very seriously impede your approval as an admin. You have made only a little over one thousand edits; most editors here expect to see around five thousand manual edits on your record. And your editing rate is roughly on average one edit every three days. Using edit summaries is not mandatory, but certainly is recommended. you only add a summary in about 20% of your edits. It is expected that you will spend some time in admin-related areas, such as AfD, CSD, AIV, etc. I understand that your military duties may leave insufficient time to devote enough to Wikipedia. If this is so perhaps you should delay further application until you have more time to devote to the encyclopedia.---- Anthony Bradbury "talk" 22:10, 24 September 2020 (UTC) reply

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Hello, Ronjohn,

An editor tagged this for deletion as an abandoned RFA but I untagged it and thought I'd ask you whether you would like this page deleted. Let me know. Liz Read! Talk! 21:53, 20 April 2021 (UTC) reply

Yeah delete that shit. Ron John ( talk) 19:40, 14 November 2022 (UTC) reply

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Hello Ronjohn. I noticed you, or another editor created a Requests for Adminship page under your name, and I was wondering as to what the status of that request might be. Please note that new users are rarely successful at RfA and that the Wikipedia editing community sets an extremely high bar for potential administrator candidates. That being said, I strongly urge you to read Wikipedia:Guide to requests for adminship, Wikipedia:Adminship is not for new users, and Wikipedia:Not now, and ask you to reconsider whether you really do wish to go through with your candidacy; please understand that you stand very little to no chance of passing RfA at this point and that you are strongly discouraged from running for adminship. If you are still intent on running for adminship with that request and are absolutely positive this is what you want, please do let me know; otherwise, I'll go ahead and delete the RfA page for you in about a week or so from today. Eagles  24/7  (C) 19:49, 24 March 2012 (UTC) reply

If you are determined to run for adminship despite my advice, you will need to transclude your RfA at WP:RFA by following the instructions at WP:RFA/N. Eagles  24/7  (C) 21:28, 24 March 2012 (UTC) reply
Failure to listen to wise counsel would not only torpedo this RFA, but any future one. Actually running for RFA when you don't meet even the most minimum of criteria would probably add another 12,000 required edits and at least a year before you could even think of trying again. RFA is not a big deal - but the community is pretty serious about how it selects admins ( talk→  BWilkins  ←track) 22:45, 24 March 2012 (UTC) reply
Seriously, Ronjohn, you really have to read WP:NOTNOW. While policy doesn't explicitly say it, you will look pretty bad if you don't. Jasper Deng (talk) 00:35, 25 March 2012 (UTC) reply

Hi there. I noticed you put your RfA inside of someone else's RfA, which I've undone. I see other editors above have suggested you might want to wait until you have more experience before you request adminship; I agree with them 100% and hope you will listen to their advice. 28bytes ( talk) 00:34, 25 March 2012 (UTC) reply

I'll give you 24hrs to properly transclude your RFA. If after that it's still non-transcluded, we can readily assume it can be deleted. It's been "in progress" long enough ( talk→  BWilkins  ←track) 23:41, 25 March 2012 (UTC) reply

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Please see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Terry Lakin.  Sandstein  17:59, 20 September 2010 (UTC) reply

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RfA closed per WP:NOTNOW

I'm sorry, but I have closed your RfA early. I hope you don't take this personally, because if you were to continue to contribute to Wikipedia in a positive manner, you would be able to submit a successful RfA in the future. Good luck! B music ian 04:26, 27 March 2012 (UTC) reply

This is somewhat unfortunate. WP:NOTNOW is really intended for situations in which an inexperienced editor strays into RFA without knowing what they are getting into. Ronjohn was given ample warning that his RFA had little chance of success but was insistent that it went ahead. I had hoped the RFA would have been allowed to run long enough to make it clear that the intention behind the advice offered was genuine.
Catfish Jim and the soapdish 09:35, 27 March 2012 (UTC) reply
Both ronjohn and I have asked Bmusician to undo the early close ( talk→  BWilkins  ←track) 09:38, 27 March 2012 (UTC) reply

RfA reopened

Per your request, I have reopened your RfA. Best of luck. Also, please don't use capital letters on my talk page...that can be perceived as shouting... B music ian 09:53, 27 March 2012 (UTC) reply

Your recent RfA

I am sorry, but I have closed your Request for adminship prematurely. Simply put, you only have 842 edits on Wikipedia; while your edit count isn't the only determining factor, and numerous people have their own personal standards by which they judge RfA candidates, this particular RfA was all but assured of not passing.

I am sorry about this, and I hope you don't take it personally. If you continue to contribute to the project in a positive fashion, I am confident that you would be able to submit a successful RfA in the future. You may wish to consider applying for an evaluation by other Wikipedia editors for feedback on how to obtain the necessary experience. Once you are ready to request adminship again, there is a great admin coaching program available, as well as a guide to requests for adminship.

If you have any other questions about becoming an administrator, please don't hesitate to ask me. Good luck! — Tom Morris ( talk) 14:19, 27 March 2012 (UTC) reply

Hi Ronjohn. I notice that you requested that your RfA was kept open when it had previously been closed. Tom closed it as it was definitely not going to pass, meaning that keeping it open is disruptive - effectively using the ignore all rules clause which one of Wikipedia's principles. I was in the process of doing exactly the same myself, but got called away from my desk.
This doesn't mean that you will never become an administrator, but I think you'll need to change your attitude a little before you do become one. And even if you don't, there's plenty to do here instead. If you'd like to discuss things further, feel free to give me a shout. Cheers WormTT · ( talk) 14:54, 27 March 2012 (UTC) reply

Per your message on Tom Morris' talk page:


You are being treated the same as anyone else. It is in nobody's interest to keep an RFA open when it is clear it has no chance whatsoever to succeed. The initial WP:NOTNOW was applied prematurely, given your apparent refusal to accept the advice offered by others that it would not succeed. After 23 opposes and no supports, WP:SNOW is clearly in effect. Catfish Jim and the soapdish 15:19, 27 March 2012 (UTC) reply

Hey Ronjohn. I'm sorry this has worked out so badly for you. Can I just say, here and now, there was absolutely nothing wrong with you submitting that RfA. Anyone wanting to take that up, can take it up with me. You do not need any "approval" from anyone to run for RfA. However, it was doomed to failure - as a number of editors have told you. These editors have watched many RfAs, and can see general trends. In fact, I've done a lot of research on RfA, which can be found at RfA Reform. When it is clear that something is going to fail, we do stop the process, because there is no good reason to carry it on - which is something that's happened here. Now, we let it run for a while to show it was going to fail, but carrying it on for a week would just be bureaucracy for the sake of it. This would be true for any editor, and I can give you a number of examples if you like.

With regards to the "attitude" comment, (at least in theory) Wikipedia is a community, no one voice is more important than others. It's the points that are made that matter. However, when one voice ignores what the community as a whole is telling them, it causes disruption. That doesn't mean you are wrong, or that you have to lie about your views, but what it does mean is that you have to accept that the rest of the community is saying and give it a rest. I've got your page watchlisted, I'll try to help out if I can. WormTT · ( talk) 07:57, 28 March 2012 (UTC) reply

Sarge - Barnstars for you!

Sarge, You've been doing some good edits, so a hefty Barnstarr to, you! Gimme a call and we can work on wiki projects as you indicated — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.14.36.165 ( talk) 22:30, 5 April 2012 (UTC) reply

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Request reason:

I did nothing wrong I was told by a Wikipedia editor that I could use youtube as a reference here: "Because we don't allow youtube videos as reliable sources, it would only be of use if it was Lola herself saying "I was a stripper". If she was a stripper, there will be a real source out there somewhere. I will say it again, revert yourself immediately-- Jac16888 Talk 00:08, 24 March 2012 (UTC)" and I did just that with a bit of coatracking, but I didn't know what coatracking was until after, so when another editor changed my edit a bit I left it alone then another editor came by and removed it all together with no explanation or discussion. Bwilkins has been targeting me ever since I put a RFA in. I'm not sure why. reply

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You were blocked for edit-warring. You do not seem to understand what edit-warring is. Please familiarize yourself with WP:Edit warring. No unblock request will be successful if you insist you did nothing wrong despite the clear evidence in the article history that you did. 28bytes ( talk) 14:22, 6 April 2012 (UTC) reply


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Sarge, the rest of us have your back. Your rationale speaks to the good in all men. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.14.36.165 ( talk) 19:55, 6 April 2012 (UTC) reply

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Nomination of Jimmy Henchman for deletion

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Christopher Dorner

Ronjohn, please wait for a consensus before restoring Christopher Jordan Dorner.

As I pointed out to you, under WP:PERP:

A person who is known only in connection with a criminal event or trial should not normally be the subject of a separate Wikipedia article if there is an existing article that could incorporate the available encyclopedic material relating to that person.

Therefore, any information on Dorner should be placed in the existing 2013 Southern California shootings article, because Dorner is not known for anything outside the shootings, and he is directly relevant to the article.

Furthermore, WP:PERP says the following:

A living person accused of a crime is presumed not guilty unless and until this is decided by a court of law. Editors must give serious consideration to not creating an article on an alleged perpetrator when no conviction is yet secured.

Dorner's guilt has not been proven by a court of law. He has only been named as the suspect in the shootings. To create an article on him implies that he is guilty before he has had a chance to stand trial.

Now, to address your point about James Eagen Holmes, who has a page despite only being known for his crime.

Firstly, Holmes has been formally charged and ordered to stand trial. Dorner, on the other hand, is currently a fugitive. His guilt has not been proven; for all we know, someone killed him a month ago and took advantage of his emotional state to write up a phony manifesto and carry out a spree killing against the LAPD. I know that sounds like bad fiction (it's straight off the top of my head), but we can't prove that it is not the case. The page on Dorner should not be created until such time as he is committed to stand trial. To create a page beforehand presumes that he is guilty, which is not the way the legal system works - even if the case against Dorner never examines Wikipedia.
Secondly, the current version of Holmes' page weighs in at 41,217kB. In other words, there is more than enough content on that page to justify a split from the 2012 Aurora shootings article. On the other hand, your work on a Dorner page is just 1,210kB. Compared to Holmes, we know nothing almost about Dorner.

Finally, I feel I should inform you that constantly reverting the edits to Christopher Jordan Dorner so that it is its own page (rather than a redirect) is edit-warring, and may get you referred to the adminstrators and possibly blocked from editing. Prisonermonkeys ( talk) 07:22, 8 February 2013 (UTC) reply

1) The discussion to gather consensus is here.
2) We cannot create a page for Dorner on the basis that he might be killed before he stands trial. That is a case of trying to predict the future, which is not what Wikipedia is for.
3) There is nothing known about Dorner that cannot go in the article about his alleged crimes.
4) Of course I'm not an admin. I wouldn't be an admin even if they paid me to do it.
In the meantime, I have put in a request for page protection on the Dorner "article". Prisonermonkeys ( talk) 11:54, 8 February 2013 (UTC) reply
I requested that you stop editing the page to form an article of its own, and instead go to Talk:Christopher Jordan Dorner to discuss creating a full page there. Prisonermonkeys ( talk) 11:59, 8 February 2013 (UTC) reply

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Nomination of Futu Holdings for deletion

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Nomination of Leaf Hua Li for deletion

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Your RFA

Hi Ronjohn,

as you may have noticed at WP:ORCP, attempting a RFA right now would be a lost cause. And would likely actually engender some ill will against you. Would you like me to delete the RFA page you created? If you decide to try again after addressing some of the problems described at WP:NOTYET, you can always recreate one in the future. -- Floquenbeam ( talk) 15:10, 23 September 2020 (UTC) reply

I'm trying to be polite and yet still be clear. There is a zero percent chance of your RFA passing right now. You don't have 1/10th the minimum expected edit count. Please read the advice in the section below, and the advice in WP:NOTYET. If you try to start it anyway, it will be closed by someone else in a couple of hours, and people will think poorly of you - because your judgement in starting it would be bad - and that opinion could linger for quite a while. That would be a shame, and a waste. So your choices are basically:
  1. Start the RFA anyway, and it will tank.
  2. Ask an admin to delete it, and then it will be as if you never created it.
  3. Ask an admin to move it to your user space, and then you can work on in sometime in the future (to be honest, I'm thinking a minimum of 1-2 years).
  4. Continue to not respond, and the MFD will likely result in option 2 or 3.
I'd recommend options 2 or 3 equally, whichever you like better. Please let me know (or any admin, if you prefer dealing with someone else). -- Floquenbeam ( talk) 15:44, 28 September 2020 (UTC) reply

RfA requirements

Having labeled this section as I have, I should go on to say that while there are no firmly laid down requirements, there are a number of expectations held by users here; failing on these will very seriously impede your approval as an admin. You have made only a little over one thousand edits; most editors here expect to see around five thousand manual edits on your record. And your editing rate is roughly on average one edit every three days. Using edit summaries is not mandatory, but certainly is recommended. you only add a summary in about 20% of your edits. It is expected that you will spend some time in admin-related areas, such as AfD, CSD, AIV, etc. I understand that your military duties may leave insufficient time to devote enough to Wikipedia. If this is so perhaps you should delay further application until you have more time to devote to the encyclopedia.---- Anthony Bradbury "talk" 22:10, 24 September 2020 (UTC) reply

Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Ronjohn, a page which you created or substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; you may participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Ronjohn and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Ronjohn during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. GeoffreyT2000 ( talk) 17:31, 25 September 2020 (UTC) reply

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Concern regarding Draft:Moomoo Inc.

Information icon Hello, Ronjohn. I just wanted to let you know that Draft:Moomoo Inc., a page you created, has not been edited in at least 5 months. Draft space is not an indefinite storage location for content that is not appropriate for article space.

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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. Bot0612 ( talk) 05:34, 13 February 2021 (UTC) reply

Hello, Ronjohn,

An editor tagged this for deletion as an abandoned RFA but I untagged it and thought I'd ask you whether you would like this page deleted. Let me know. Liz Read! Talk! 21:53, 20 April 2021 (UTC) reply

Yeah delete that shit. Ron John ( talk) 19:40, 14 November 2022 (UTC) reply

Your draft article, Draft:Moomoo Inc.

Hello, Ronjohn. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, " Moomoo Inc.".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. If you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz Read! Talk! 04:16, 1 September 2021 (UTC) reply

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