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I placed a copy of the chart at my sandbox. [1] Some additional ideas include removing exact dates of joins/graduations and just leaving years active. The last time I tried to put all the sortable columns for birth date and prefecture, it was reverted by the editor, so I don't really want to tweak that much. Perhaps the second table which only adds the Gen, Years Active and Status columns will be more suitable. - AngusWOOF ( talk) 19:12, 27 June 2013 (UTC)
- Was wondering if you had reached a conclusion as to what you wanted to try for the former members. I think the idea of redoing the article as List of AKB48 members with categories Current Members and Members by Generation as with Members of JKT48 is a good one. The current roster on the main article can then be shortened to a comma-separated list that Wikipedia use for listing personnel for singles "Team A: NAME1, NAME2, etc. Team K: NAME3, NAME4, ... " (think discography of albums on the main article). For the top of the Members page, it can be the existing roster tables or a trimmed down version, perhaps just showing birthday and date joined/years active. The Members by Generation tables can then be detailed and referenced with all sorts of information including the stuff you already mentioned, with most member name redirects going to those entries (can use vanchors if appropriate). Transfers table should show when the member first joined AKB48 since they weren't part of a generation. Well, those are my thoughts. It could be all for naught if the other editors have a completely different vision. - AngusWOOF ( talk) 04:55, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
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- Hi there. Sorry, i am overloaded with work. I will start slowly to rewrite the article in my sandbox. I would prefer a list by generation.
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Hi, wanted to get your opinion on merging Koi Suru Fortune Cookie with Fortune Cookie Yang Mencinta (JKT48 song). If you can chime in on Talk:Koi Suru Fortune Cookie that would be great. Thanks. - AngusWOOF ( talk) 02:13, 17 September 2013 (UTC)
AKB48 has some songs on Spotify now - some of their more recent stuff from Manatsu no Sounds Good! to Koi Suru Fortune Cookie. - AngusWOOF ( talk) 22:41, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
I don't know if you're not a native English speaker, but "buy up" is a common phrase that means "purchase all that is available of". "AKB48 fans buy up thousands" is proper English. Adding "to" is not necessary.— Ryūlóng ( 琉竜) 10:16, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
- See my recent talk contrib. I sometimes feel your intent is to give the "scandalous" events undue weight.^^
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- It's called providing a neutral point of view, when most of the article treats them as 60 immaculate little angels.—
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- Yup, that is your misconception. I agree that some of the article is fancruft, but its not actually worship. You, however, seem to be under the impression that adding up negative things kinda outbalance the positives, when in fact its mandatory to have NPOV right from scratch. Rka001 ( talk) 18:07, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
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Why not C-Class? No real reason, actually, other than: 1) I do a lot of quick, uncontroversial assessments, and in this case one can easily ascertain that the article is not a stub in a matter of seconds, and 2) I normally refrain from giving "higher" assessments (B in particular, but also C to a degree) for projects of which I am not a member (this article being a case in point). This is why I gave the edit summary as "Start class at least", i.e. I definitely didn't think it could not be rated higher.
On taking a second, more detailed look, I found that the article meets the C class criteria. Moreover, I don't think there is a reason why it couldn't be rated as B - having a photo is desirable but is not required (see WP:BCLASS), and the article looks fine in other departments. Note that, in this case, in order to assess WP:BCLASS #1 one needs to have a working knowledge of Japanese, and that assessing WP:BCLASS #2 may require at least some familiarity with the subject. These are the areas where I come up short, so my suggestion would be to post an assessment request here, and a project member will hopefully respond. GregorB ( talk) 14:09, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for getting her article up to some decent level. I wish the other prominent and former AKB48 members had as much content for their biographies. - AngusWOOF ( talk) 18:18, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
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I have gotten some time to get back to your request from ten days ago. I am assuming that the sockpuppetry suspicion was a mistake, though the circumstances were pretty strong. I have pointed the sockpuppet group at the first other account, removed the note on your talk page. The history mechanisms mean that they are not permanently invisible, but someone would have to look into the history. Georgewilliamherbert ( talk) 01:40, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
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I placed a copy of the chart at my sandbox. [1] Some additional ideas include removing exact dates of joins/graduations and just leaving years active. The last time I tried to put all the sortable columns for birth date and prefecture, it was reverted by the editor, so I don't really want to tweak that much. Perhaps the second table which only adds the Gen, Years Active and Status columns will be more suitable. - AngusWOOF ( talk) 19:12, 27 June 2013 (UTC)
- Was wondering if you had reached a conclusion as to what you wanted to try for the former members. I think the idea of redoing the article as List of AKB48 members with categories Current Members and Members by Generation as with Members of JKT48 is a good one. The current roster on the main article can then be shortened to a comma-separated list that Wikipedia use for listing personnel for singles "Team A: NAME1, NAME2, etc. Team K: NAME3, NAME4, ... " (think discography of albums on the main article). For the top of the Members page, it can be the existing roster tables or a trimmed down version, perhaps just showing birthday and date joined/years active. The Members by Generation tables can then be detailed and referenced with all sorts of information including the stuff you already mentioned, with most member name redirects going to those entries (can use vanchors if appropriate). Transfers table should show when the member first joined AKB48 since they weren't part of a generation. Well, those are my thoughts. It could be all for naught if the other editors have a completely different vision. - AngusWOOF ( talk) 04:55, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
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- Hi there. Sorry, i am overloaded with work. I will start slowly to rewrite the article in my sandbox. I would prefer a list by generation.
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Hi, wanted to get your opinion on merging Koi Suru Fortune Cookie with Fortune Cookie Yang Mencinta (JKT48 song). If you can chime in on Talk:Koi Suru Fortune Cookie that would be great. Thanks. - AngusWOOF ( talk) 02:13, 17 September 2013 (UTC)
AKB48 has some songs on Spotify now - some of their more recent stuff from Manatsu no Sounds Good! to Koi Suru Fortune Cookie. - AngusWOOF ( talk) 22:41, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
I don't know if you're not a native English speaker, but "buy up" is a common phrase that means "purchase all that is available of". "AKB48 fans buy up thousands" is proper English. Adding "to" is not necessary.— Ryūlóng ( 琉竜) 10:16, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
- See my recent talk contrib. I sometimes feel your intent is to give the "scandalous" events undue weight.^^
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- It's called providing a neutral point of view, when most of the article treats them as 60 immaculate little angels.—
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- Yup, that is your misconception. I agree that some of the article is fancruft, but its not actually worship. You, however, seem to be under the impression that adding up negative things kinda outbalance the positives, when in fact its mandatory to have NPOV right from scratch. Rka001 ( talk) 18:07, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
- It's called providing a neutral point of view, when most of the article treats them as 60 immaculate little angels.—
Ryūlóng (
琉竜) 15:42, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
- See my recent talk contrib. I sometimes feel your intent is to give the "scandalous" events undue weight.^^
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Why not C-Class? No real reason, actually, other than: 1) I do a lot of quick, uncontroversial assessments, and in this case one can easily ascertain that the article is not a stub in a matter of seconds, and 2) I normally refrain from giving "higher" assessments (B in particular, but also C to a degree) for projects of which I am not a member (this article being a case in point). This is why I gave the edit summary as "Start class at least", i.e. I definitely didn't think it could not be rated higher.
On taking a second, more detailed look, I found that the article meets the C class criteria. Moreover, I don't think there is a reason why it couldn't be rated as B - having a photo is desirable but is not required (see WP:BCLASS), and the article looks fine in other departments. Note that, in this case, in order to assess WP:BCLASS #1 one needs to have a working knowledge of Japanese, and that assessing WP:BCLASS #2 may require at least some familiarity with the subject. These are the areas where I come up short, so my suggestion would be to post an assessment request here, and a project member will hopefully respond. GregorB ( talk) 14:09, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for getting her article up to some decent level. I wish the other prominent and former AKB48 members had as much content for their biographies. - AngusWOOF ( talk) 18:18, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
<3 Rka001 ( talk) 19:01, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
I have gotten some time to get back to your request from ten days ago. I am assuming that the sockpuppetry suspicion was a mistake, though the circumstances were pretty strong. I have pointed the sockpuppet group at the first other account, removed the note on your talk page. The history mechanisms mean that they are not permanently invisible, but someone would have to look into the history. Georgewilliamherbert ( talk) 01:40, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
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