I'd be happy to look it over and give some help. Even if it's a subject I know nothing about, I should still be able to say what or if anything needs to be done to make it accessible to others. -- ṃ•α•Ł•ṭ•ʰ•Ə•Щ• @ 22:28, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
Okay thanks. :) Kodster ( Willis) ( Look what I can do) 19:18, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
I've taken a quick look at it, and it seems over-long at first sight. There are a lot of cover versions, not many of which seem really notable. There are many unsourced assertions. Personnel section should be at the bottom, just before the references. I think it's a little optimistic for a GA at present, but I don't have time to look at it myself. -- Rodhullandemu ( Talk) 22:44, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
I gotten most of what you asked. Some problems I have. I am still needing to do the music video mentions in prose, but that isn't a problem. However, one of the things you mentioned is having a source that says the suits can either be made or bought. I have pages that say one or the other, maybe both, but will fail WP:RS or maybe considered span. One thing that I can say is that this is similar to the Japanese cosplay; suits and items can be bought or made. Can I use a cosplay source, as long as I reword the statement? User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 03:13, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
I removed the music videos because I didn't find a single source about any specific video. I was going to cut it down to a list of people who had them, but still without any sources. Other than that, I got everything on your second list. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 01:18, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
Not a problem, Realist2 ( talk) 18:56, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
Many thanks from WP:FURRY and myself for your detailed comments on this good article candidacy. I'm convinced that with enough work this could be a featured article someday, and making GA is a good start. :-) GreenReaper ( talk) 21:42, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
Hi, given the generally slow process of GA review I wouldn't worry about an editor not being around too much. The timings are is pretty flexible in my experience. I'd leave a note in the article's talk page saying you've left the review on hold, and someone else may pick it up. Otherwise, the weekend is nigh, & the article's editor may have some time to look at it. But I wouldn't fail it if it can be fixed. Just leave it as on hold. Obviously, if it doesn't get fixed, it will eventually be failed, but it will still be in the GA reviews list and someone will pick it up. Cheers. -- Rodhullandemu ( Talk) 17:02, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
thanks for the bannerstar! Bookkeeperoftheoccult ( talk) 23:00, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
You're gonna hate me for this (ouch!) but I am sorely tempted to put a "citation needed" after the "Thriller a chart-topper", and the "Steve Lukather" name in the "Recording and release" section. Please don't fire me, because I have 16 children to support, and three grandmothers. :)-- andreasegde ( talk) 23:15, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
No no no, please go ahead, it isnt going to pass anyway. Never mind tho. ;-( Realist2 ( talk) 23:20, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
It's all right, Realist, I'll check this out. What does this sentence mean?
"It was released on November 30, 1982 by Epic Records and the second produced by Quincy Jones." I'm going to reword it, it's not very clear to me (and probably others as well). Please feel free to
talk to me on my for any questions or comments.
Kodster (
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Look what I can do) 16:46, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
OK, ill give it a go on my sandbox. ;-) Realist2 ( talk) 14:57, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
LOL. I saw this and I was like, hell, I must have copied this onto Realist2's talk page by mistake! Showing him how to do it, huh? It helps a lot, also see what Wikipedia has to say for more info.
The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar | ||
I gladly give this Barnstar to Realist2, Kodster, and Rodhullandemu, for working with each other in a very positive way. This does not happen very often on Wikipedia, and it is to be congratulated, and praised; hence, the Barnstar. Enjoy.-- andreasegde ( talk) 21:17, 5 April 2008 (UTC) |
Oh mega cool!!!! Cheers!!!! Realist2 ( talk) 21:19, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
As you can tell, I put it on hold. See the Talk:Thriller (album) for the stuff. Feel free to add anything that you see wrong. I'd say this article could be fixed in a few days. Please feel free to talk to me on my for any comments. Cheers, Kodster ( Willis) ( Look what I can do) 22:37, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, feel free to change it. I'll check on it later, I've got a few non-Wiki related things to finish. (Perhaps it's time for that Wikibreak I was supposed to take). I'll look at it in an hour or two. Cheers, Kodster ( Willis) ( Look what I can do) 19:26, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
Do you want me to put that info into the section? Cheers, Kodster ( Willis) ( Look what I can do) 21:22, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
Okay, it's done. Are you sure that there's no more information you can find? It looks okay, but a few more details wouldn't hurt. Cheers, Kodster ( Willis) ( Look what I can do) 22:29, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
What does "At its peak it was shifting 500,000 copies a week" mean? Does "shifting" mean "selling"? I'm sorry, I just don't understand. Cheers, Kodster ( Willis) ( Look what I can do) 23:14, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
Nope, a third of the sources still need formatting. Then it will be done. I think it will be another 24 hours, hopefully our wiki knight in shining armour can give us a hand. Realist2 ( talk) 23:30, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
keep up the good work. Bookkeeperoftheoccult ( talk) 00:05, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
I think you know that it passed. Great job on the referencing and the information. Another GA for Wikipedia. Cheers, Kodster ( Willis) ( Look what I can do) 21:18, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
Good luck with that. You'll need it! ;D Anyway, like I said earlier, I really advise on getting the "Cite" button. You really CAN'T forget anything with it. Just go to "Preferences", then "Gadgets", and "refTools". It's just a button, and you can pick what you want to cite and fill in the form, and it does it for you. It's a lot easier, and it's what I use. (Because that's what's important. ;)) I really think it would help. Cheers, Kodster ( Willis) ( Look what I can do) 00:48, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
What's up? Why did you remove your edits? Cheers, Kodster ( Willis) ( Look what I can do) 22:58, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
I don't understand what you're talking about when you say, "What do you mean, the wiki links" on my user page. Cheers, Kodster ( Willis) ( Look what I can do) 23:04, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
You asked me why did i remove my edits, i have know idea what edits i made that i then reverted, other than removing these [[ ]] . Realist2 ( talk) 23:07, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
Ah, sorry language barrier lol, yeah they were red links, i decided to wiki link it, some of them worked and some of them didnt. Realist2 ( talk) 23:11, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
"ref name="">{{cite web |first= |last= |url= |title= |publisher= |date= 2008-02-19 |accessdate=2008-04-06"
stuff over to Winword is easier if you do it TWICE. Once you have filled in #1, you delete it, and then copy the second version. This means you don't have to keep deleting all the stuff and then re-doing it.-- andreasegde ( talk) 12:42, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
Well, of course, there's A Day in the Life to GA. Perhaps you would like to help me there? After that, I might take a little break, just for a week or two. Then...who knows? But don't worry, I'll always be here if you need me for anything. Cheers, Kodster ( Willis) ( Look what I can do) 00:36, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
This comment was highly inappropriate. Do not say things like that. - Rjd0060 ( talk) 01:01, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
I understand the problem, and that you're being targeted by anonymous IPs due to your race, or support of MJ, or whatever I don't know. But making such edits to the user's talk page is not the way to solve the problem. If you like you could file a report at WP:AN/I and have administrators look at the situation and see what they can do to protect you against these attacks. Or I could do it for you, if you like. Let me know. — scetoaux ( T| C) 01:07, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
I appologize, I will never let this happen again. 86.29.133.152 ( talk) 13:46, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
Shocking response huh. Anyway, one benifit of peer reviewing is that the article becomes more prepared for FAC. But folks here have different outlooks, so I'll consider that as ok. About the peer review, consider dropping a message on the user's talk page who submitted it for PR. If he closes the PR, good; if not, its a bad sign, it fails to meet Wikipedia:Featured article criteria 1e. -- Efe ( talk) 03:26, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
Good grief, I popped in to take a look at your Thriller FA review (curiosity got the better of me) and I think you might just get it. This would mean that someone should send a message to the MJFC as just reward for your efforts. The MJFC would give you mention on their page, which would be a large "feather in your cap", and which you would deserve. Good for you. (The one on holiday... :)-- 212.241.67.98 ( talk) 19:18, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
P.S., So sorry to read about your problems with racists. Rise above it, because you're more intelligent than they are. :) -- 212.241.67.98 ( talk) 19:21, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
Hi, worth taking a quick look at WP:GAR. Once an article reaches GA status, it would be invidious to have to struggle to keep it that way on a daily basis. So removing the IMDb reference is no big deal. It would have to get pretty bad before it was nominated for reassessment, and even so, we'd have time to address the issues raised. That's far better than having to keep the article under a microscope, although outrageous changes are usually picked up. Relax. It's there. -- Rodhullandemu ( Talk) 02:54, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
What makes other opposing the FAC is that page is really disorganized. New infoboxes here, list here, making the prose eaten up. The article is on its way; be more patient. Even myself, I fail to bring "Gimme More" and "Deja Vu" to FA. Man, don't leave. You're someone here in Wiki. -- Efe ( talk) 07:02, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
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I'd be happy to look it over and give some help. Even if it's a subject I know nothing about, I should still be able to say what or if anything needs to be done to make it accessible to others. -- ṃ•α•Ł•ṭ•ʰ•Ə•Щ• @ 22:28, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
Okay thanks. :) Kodster ( Willis) ( Look what I can do) 19:18, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
I've taken a quick look at it, and it seems over-long at first sight. There are a lot of cover versions, not many of which seem really notable. There are many unsourced assertions. Personnel section should be at the bottom, just before the references. I think it's a little optimistic for a GA at present, but I don't have time to look at it myself. -- Rodhullandemu ( Talk) 22:44, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
I gotten most of what you asked. Some problems I have. I am still needing to do the music video mentions in prose, but that isn't a problem. However, one of the things you mentioned is having a source that says the suits can either be made or bought. I have pages that say one or the other, maybe both, but will fail WP:RS or maybe considered span. One thing that I can say is that this is similar to the Japanese cosplay; suits and items can be bought or made. Can I use a cosplay source, as long as I reword the statement? User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 03:13, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
I removed the music videos because I didn't find a single source about any specific video. I was going to cut it down to a list of people who had them, but still without any sources. Other than that, I got everything on your second list. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 01:18, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
Not a problem, Realist2 ( talk) 18:56, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
Many thanks from WP:FURRY and myself for your detailed comments on this good article candidacy. I'm convinced that with enough work this could be a featured article someday, and making GA is a good start. :-) GreenReaper ( talk) 21:42, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
Hi, given the generally slow process of GA review I wouldn't worry about an editor not being around too much. The timings are is pretty flexible in my experience. I'd leave a note in the article's talk page saying you've left the review on hold, and someone else may pick it up. Otherwise, the weekend is nigh, & the article's editor may have some time to look at it. But I wouldn't fail it if it can be fixed. Just leave it as on hold. Obviously, if it doesn't get fixed, it will eventually be failed, but it will still be in the GA reviews list and someone will pick it up. Cheers. -- Rodhullandemu ( Talk) 17:02, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
thanks for the bannerstar! Bookkeeperoftheoccult ( talk) 23:00, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
You're gonna hate me for this (ouch!) but I am sorely tempted to put a "citation needed" after the "Thriller a chart-topper", and the "Steve Lukather" name in the "Recording and release" section. Please don't fire me, because I have 16 children to support, and three grandmothers. :)-- andreasegde ( talk) 23:15, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
No no no, please go ahead, it isnt going to pass anyway. Never mind tho. ;-( Realist2 ( talk) 23:20, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
It's all right, Realist, I'll check this out. What does this sentence mean?
"It was released on November 30, 1982 by Epic Records and the second produced by Quincy Jones." I'm going to reword it, it's not very clear to me (and probably others as well). Please feel free to
talk to me on my for any questions or comments.
Kodster (
Willis) (
Look what I can do) 16:46, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
OK, ill give it a go on my sandbox. ;-) Realist2 ( talk) 14:57, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
LOL. I saw this and I was like, hell, I must have copied this onto Realist2's talk page by mistake! Showing him how to do it, huh? It helps a lot, also see what Wikipedia has to say for more info.
The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar | ||
I gladly give this Barnstar to Realist2, Kodster, and Rodhullandemu, for working with each other in a very positive way. This does not happen very often on Wikipedia, and it is to be congratulated, and praised; hence, the Barnstar. Enjoy.-- andreasegde ( talk) 21:17, 5 April 2008 (UTC) |
Oh mega cool!!!! Cheers!!!! Realist2 ( talk) 21:19, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
As you can tell, I put it on hold. See the Talk:Thriller (album) for the stuff. Feel free to add anything that you see wrong. I'd say this article could be fixed in a few days. Please feel free to talk to me on my for any comments. Cheers, Kodster ( Willis) ( Look what I can do) 22:37, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, feel free to change it. I'll check on it later, I've got a few non-Wiki related things to finish. (Perhaps it's time for that Wikibreak I was supposed to take). I'll look at it in an hour or two. Cheers, Kodster ( Willis) ( Look what I can do) 19:26, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
Do you want me to put that info into the section? Cheers, Kodster ( Willis) ( Look what I can do) 21:22, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
Okay, it's done. Are you sure that there's no more information you can find? It looks okay, but a few more details wouldn't hurt. Cheers, Kodster ( Willis) ( Look what I can do) 22:29, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
What does "At its peak it was shifting 500,000 copies a week" mean? Does "shifting" mean "selling"? I'm sorry, I just don't understand. Cheers, Kodster ( Willis) ( Look what I can do) 23:14, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
Nope, a third of the sources still need formatting. Then it will be done. I think it will be another 24 hours, hopefully our wiki knight in shining armour can give us a hand. Realist2 ( talk) 23:30, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
keep up the good work. Bookkeeperoftheoccult ( talk) 00:05, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
I think you know that it passed. Great job on the referencing and the information. Another GA for Wikipedia. Cheers, Kodster ( Willis) ( Look what I can do) 21:18, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
Good luck with that. You'll need it! ;D Anyway, like I said earlier, I really advise on getting the "Cite" button. You really CAN'T forget anything with it. Just go to "Preferences", then "Gadgets", and "refTools". It's just a button, and you can pick what you want to cite and fill in the form, and it does it for you. It's a lot easier, and it's what I use. (Because that's what's important. ;)) I really think it would help. Cheers, Kodster ( Willis) ( Look what I can do) 00:48, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
What's up? Why did you remove your edits? Cheers, Kodster ( Willis) ( Look what I can do) 22:58, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
I don't understand what you're talking about when you say, "What do you mean, the wiki links" on my user page. Cheers, Kodster ( Willis) ( Look what I can do) 23:04, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
You asked me why did i remove my edits, i have know idea what edits i made that i then reverted, other than removing these [[ ]] . Realist2 ( talk) 23:07, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
Ah, sorry language barrier lol, yeah they were red links, i decided to wiki link it, some of them worked and some of them didnt. Realist2 ( talk) 23:11, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
"ref name="">{{cite web |first= |last= |url= |title= |publisher= |date= 2008-02-19 |accessdate=2008-04-06"
stuff over to Winword is easier if you do it TWICE. Once you have filled in #1, you delete it, and then copy the second version. This means you don't have to keep deleting all the stuff and then re-doing it.-- andreasegde ( talk) 12:42, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
Well, of course, there's A Day in the Life to GA. Perhaps you would like to help me there? After that, I might take a little break, just for a week or two. Then...who knows? But don't worry, I'll always be here if you need me for anything. Cheers, Kodster ( Willis) ( Look what I can do) 00:36, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
This comment was highly inappropriate. Do not say things like that. - Rjd0060 ( talk) 01:01, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
I understand the problem, and that you're being targeted by anonymous IPs due to your race, or support of MJ, or whatever I don't know. But making such edits to the user's talk page is not the way to solve the problem. If you like you could file a report at WP:AN/I and have administrators look at the situation and see what they can do to protect you against these attacks. Or I could do it for you, if you like. Let me know. — scetoaux ( T| C) 01:07, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
I appologize, I will never let this happen again. 86.29.133.152 ( talk) 13:46, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
Shocking response huh. Anyway, one benifit of peer reviewing is that the article becomes more prepared for FAC. But folks here have different outlooks, so I'll consider that as ok. About the peer review, consider dropping a message on the user's talk page who submitted it for PR. If he closes the PR, good; if not, its a bad sign, it fails to meet Wikipedia:Featured article criteria 1e. -- Efe ( talk) 03:26, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
Good grief, I popped in to take a look at your Thriller FA review (curiosity got the better of me) and I think you might just get it. This would mean that someone should send a message to the MJFC as just reward for your efforts. The MJFC would give you mention on their page, which would be a large "feather in your cap", and which you would deserve. Good for you. (The one on holiday... :)-- 212.241.67.98 ( talk) 19:18, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
P.S., So sorry to read about your problems with racists. Rise above it, because you're more intelligent than they are. :) -- 212.241.67.98 ( talk) 19:21, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
Hi, worth taking a quick look at WP:GAR. Once an article reaches GA status, it would be invidious to have to struggle to keep it that way on a daily basis. So removing the IMDb reference is no big deal. It would have to get pretty bad before it was nominated for reassessment, and even so, we'd have time to address the issues raised. That's far better than having to keep the article under a microscope, although outrageous changes are usually picked up. Relax. It's there. -- Rodhullandemu ( Talk) 02:54, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
What makes other opposing the FAC is that page is really disorganized. New infoboxes here, list here, making the prose eaten up. The article is on its way; be more patient. Even myself, I fail to bring "Gimme More" and "Deja Vu" to FA. Man, don't leave. You're someone here in Wiki. -- Efe ( talk) 07:02, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
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