Hey there, I've actually been watching the debate over at the Howard Stern page. I'd be happy to try to help out, however there have been some harsh words in the past over the O&A article between MGlosenger and myself. I've also edited the Howard Stern article and obviously the O&A article as well, so I wouldn't be able to approach this as an unbiased mediator. It might be a good idea for you to ask the Mediation Cabal for assistance. By the way, you should be careful, you're in violation of WP:3RR on the Howard Stern page and could be blocked on sight by any admin. I suggest trying informal mediation first and see how that works out. See how a neutral third party views the situation. Tufflaw 13:25, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
Just because you don't think Joe Shareholder is a charictar on the O&A program, doesn't mean he isn't. I can provide audio clips from this various apperences on the O&A program. I'm re-addeding the information that you deleted. If need be we can have someone mediate the Joe Shareholder issue. Best Regards, Mayor Westfall 18:58, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
There's no need to be snippy in edit summaries. No one is claiming this is a courtroom. Tufflaw 05:02, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
- Sorry if I was too forceful, it's getting a bit frustrating around here. I think that some of the people editing that page believe I am trying to push a particular point of view when I'm merely trying to keep false information out of Wikipedia. Tufflaw 05:10, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
I prefer vigorously oppose to "whine". ;^)
Attention whore 01:31, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
You whine, pookie. Payneos 01:32, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
Stop calling me pookie. It's hard to type while aroused. Attention whore 01:37, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
But I heart you, pookie! Payneos 01:41, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
that censorship quote is no longer on the Howard stern page. what happened? Streamless 14:31, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
Stern Fans are rabid enough and too sycophantic for me to bother with rewriting the article efficently enough to get in there and not have them take it out repeatedly. Payneos 15:38, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
- how about adding it to the O&A page? Streamless 14:13, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
Please stop violating the 3 reversions rule. This is against Wikipedia policy and will get you banned. Thank you for your anticipated cooperation. Attention whore 18:12, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
I am not in violation of the Three Reverts Rule, as per the section to be read as follows as written on July 12th, 2006. Reverting potentially libellous material... All users are encouraged to remove unsourced or poorly sourced derogatory information about living persons, whether within a biography of a living person or elsewhere, including the associated talk pages. As with vandalism, the repeated addition of such material is best dealt with by blocking and page protection. The three-revert rule does not apply to users making a good-faith effort to enforce this provision, whether they are involved in editing the articles themselves or not. Payneos 18:24, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
Might I suggest doing something that you tried to do in the past?
Why not call for consensus on the Spazz/Lobster Girl issue from the other editors on the article? Let the consensus stand for seven days, and then when it's accepted, tag the talk page appropriately, negating the problem that may or may not reappear. CQJ 03:38, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
- Slow down and let the consensus take the course it's going to take. Let's try to keep this as civil as possible. By the way, if you feel that way, you'd want to make your voice known as "Keep" not "Reject" as "Reject" means Reject the current standing of the article. CQJ 20:01, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
- I'm also trying to get the article semi'd again since it would appear that we've got two or three IP users adding crap to it, but you know this :-) CQJ 17:02, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
- 'Twould appear that your friend as temporarily dissappeared from the fray on Opie and Anthony, as such, I'm going to make a further post to the Cabal case page and close it out. I'd recommend sticking to consensus and following WP:OR and WP:V if things become dicey in the future. If you need further help on it, feel free to make an informal request at my talk page. CQJ 01:52, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
As a userbox fan of FLCL, would you be willing to vote for its nomination at Wikipedia's Article Improvement Drive? If elected, it will be the subject of a week-long overhaul, in an attempt to pass in to Featured Article status! Thanks, Litefantastic 16:30, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
you had to ask deadair doug to come and save the day when you saw all the delete votes. maybe you should just give up. Wikipedia is NOT THE PLACE for articles on the Pests. Get over it.-- XMBRIAN 03:14, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
this thread says otherwise... http://oaexperience.com/forums/showthread.php?p=90115#post90115-- XMBRIAN 03:17, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
Funny you would need "help". If Wikipedia was the place for an article like this, wouldn't I be the one seeking "help"? I've yet to ask anyone to "help" me out.-- XMBRIAN 03:24, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
How many times do I have to tell you this? WIKIPEDIA IS NOT THE PLACE FOR A SELF SERVING ARTICLE! NO FIXING CAN TAKE THAT AWAY!-- XMBRIAN 03:27, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
Have you even read the people who have voted delete?-- XMBRIAN 03:30, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
Fancruft IS against Wiki's TOS.-- XMBRIAN 03:34, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
Regardless, this article has no value to Wiki.
i dont care what you think.
Deadair Doug? Does this article not have value, or do you ahve a personal problem with me? I never mocked you Scott. I hope Wiki editors can smell agendas. There was no reason to mock me. I only stated my case, and cited referances via links. Why so angry with me to name call? Dugout Doug 22:43, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
Payneos, can you contact me dugoutdoug at fullblownaids.com. Thanks Dugout Doug 01:03, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
Just to warn you, you are really close to breaking the 3RR on Howard Stern Show. -- Michael Greiner 21:04, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
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Stop Re-adding the links to episodes and episode clips on youtube, on Fred Fredburger
Read DMCA. Youtube deleted most of the episode uploads of various shows two months ago, as well as the account of the user who uploaded it. They'll probably do it again. Watching something uploaded to the internet from a TV station without the networks permission is AGAINST THE LAW. We cannot have a link on Wikipedia that would lead to people breaking the law, although they probably wont get caught, it's still wrong. Youtube could get SUED if Cartoon Network found out that these episodes were online without their permission. Stop adding the links, because I'll keep removing them, case closed. I appreciate you contributing to the article, but these kinds of things are things you shouldn't add. DietLimeCola 19:41, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
Well that cute, wow you showed me your power and authoritiiiee I am in awe,well sadly you appear to have no interest in facts, the vast majority of the edits i made on the page were simply facts,and I threw in my opinion once or twice. Homeless charlie is a great example he did not talk about having "sex" with ms.rice he said "rape the *#$^ and punch her in the face" whilst dumb and dumber laughed, it was in very poor taste , after being reprimanded and "apologizing" they went on the air the next day laughing about it again,and ranting about how that type of idiocy should be ok on XM because its "free speech" that is what XM suspended them for, secondly it is a FACT that they have already lost several of the FM markets they were on in, it is also a FACT that their ratings in the markets they are on in are rather poor,it is also a FACTthat they started out on XM as a premium channel and had to be made free because no one was signing up (pretty basic business there, nice try at spin though), it is also fact that there is zero evidence to suggest that O&A make 1 iota of difference in XM's subscriber base either before or after starting to appear on FM again to promote the show. Go look at the charts they are online and there is no spike at all when o&a started or when the went to fm. Oh and giving away the full uncensored show free on pal-talk (a chat program) when you already have non existing ratings was just brilliant and that only draw in about 300 people. I could go on and on about the glaring misrepresentations on that page as well as the outright lies, but I suspect it won't do any good anyway, and you will probably just delete this too, and hey thats ok I understand,opie and anthony are two talentless hacks who rely on sheer stupidity to get laughs from a bunch of 16-21 year old adolescents (I have seen the chat room). So if it makes you and the few thousand other people who listen to them feel better to just lie about them to make them look better , hey go for it, it's not gonna help anyway, most people have no idea who they are and they are so mind numbingly boring that 99% of people wouldn't listen a second time, so have your fantasies, lol they are good to have. Oh and by the way lets say xm and sirius were to merge, who do you think would stay if the choice had to be made between Stern or 0&a ,, hahha, kind of an easy question isn't it?
That must have been a very fulfilling waste of your time, I'm sure. I'm glad you paid enough attention to me to come to my user page and type all that useless crap out. I'll just leave it up here so others who come by can witness the stupidity of a fanboy. Payneos 17:55, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
haahha, thats cute, stupidity huh? what I posted sir is reality,care to refute just one of those facts? jumping to ad hominem attacks does not change the reality that what I had posted is 100% true and accurate, your little wiki page trying to talk up 2 hacks on the radio is what i call stupidity,and a waste of time,its not gonna help them at all.It took me all of 5 minutes to write that out,and i don't consider laughing and trying to expose lies as a waste of my time either, so keep up the pompous attitude, and thank you for leaving it up, I am pretty sure most people are intelligent enough to verify it all as fact and realize your site is pure unmitigated BS. lol but i am done now, carry on kid. and once again, no wiki site will make o&a popular or known.
Keeping this up for the same reason. I don't even need to criticize your fanboy-dom, your work speaks for itself. All you can do is cry they're hacks. No intelligent debate, just drivel. At least I can be fair and add responsibly to the Howard Stern article. Hoo hoo. Payneos 02:20, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
I laid out a slew of facts, you cant refute 1 of them,and yet you accuse me of not having intelligent debate,yet I am the one who has posted facts, where did you get the idea that I am a stern fan? is that easier to say than addressing the facts. In fact sir, I am just an xm subscriber as well as a stock holder and have been very upset with xm since they hired these 2 hacks instead of getting stern,simply business, xm now realizes how bad of a decision that was. now as for the facts, lets review shall we, see if you can refute 1. You see I did add responsibly, you just didn't like the reality.
1: O&A have already lost a few fm markets they were on in due to poor ratings,, true or false?
2: They are not even in the top 10 in any fm market.true or false? while it is true that there was an initial upkick in ratings, they have since vanished in fact lets see,as of spring 07 Boston #14 2.6 market share,,Philadelphia #22 1.6 market share,,,New York #22 1.7 market share,,Chigaco #27 1.3 market share., now these being 4 top markets I feel that pretty well sums it up.
3: There was no spike at all in xm subscriptions when o&a were hired,in fact between 9/04 and 12/04,(o&a were hired in 10/04) xm's market share actually dropped roughly 6% while sirius gained 6% in that time period,true or false? and here is a link to prove this fact [1] you may also notice that xm's market share has been falling ever since they signed o&a, while sirius has been gaining market share. So as we can all see very clearly here, O&A had no role in people deciding which satellite service to use to say the least, keep in mind this is still 1 year prior to stern going to sirius.
4:O&A started as a premium channel on xm, and due to the above fact of no one being interested they were made free,, true or false? consult the chart.
5: using this same chart once again, (and you lied on your page claiming these numbers are not available which they are as we can all see as i posted them) there was no spike in subscribers after o&a went to free fm. true or false?
6: homeless charlie said "rape her and punch her in the face" speaking of ms rice, not "have sex" true or false?
7: they weren't suspended until the next day when they went on the air and mocked xm management seemingly having no concept that it was wrong to have a man advocate raping and beating a woman let alone the secretary of state. true or false?
SO lets just start there shall we? care to refute just 1 of those facts? and ya, i stand by my 'hacks' comment. and if you like you can also ponder this 'if xm and sirius merge and 1 morning show has to go, o&a or stern, who do you predict will be leaving the air?
Watch this, pookums.
1. False. Flipping formats happens all the time, and that's what happened to the markets they lost. These were in the works, and in no way the fault of any of the talent on the air. Hell, O&A just survived a format flip on their flagship station in NYC, whereas everyone else was kicked out, including the talented Radio Chick and Ron & Fez.
2. Point being? Give it time, Howard wasn't number one in a day either. Given the proper exposure, they'll do just as well, if not better.
3. That's odd, I DO see a spike in membership to XM radio between 9/30 and 12/31 of 04. By quarter, I see a 300,000 membership jump, with it evening out and continuing to rise over the next few quarters. So, what are you babbling aboot again? Read what you cite.
4. False. It's a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation your warped fanboy mind has put up in this context. If they stayed a premium channel, you would say nobody was listening and the show was so terrible that they might as well sucker O&A fanboys by getting the extra two dollars a month. However if they got off, like they did, them listeners must be down and they suck anyways. Neither are the case or terrestrial radio wouldn't have shown any interest in them. Failed.
5. False. Already covered in three.
6. True. Who gives a shit, I thought it was funny.
7. True. Again, who gives a shit, they mock E-Lo all the time for his bowl haircut.
8. In terms of who leaves? Neither. Unless Howard whines to have them fired. Neither of them will leave because it's a merger. The end.
Wow. That was easy. Fanboy. Stick to your Howard Stern boards where all your sycophantic friends can agree with everything you say and not debate you in the real realm of ideas and facts. Payneos 00:31, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
1: great spin.. lol do you get your news from them?
2: ratings and market share are going down, not up sorry,source, arbitron ratings
3: perhaps you dont understand what a 'spike' is,sure xm gained 300,000 from 9/04-12/04,true,but from 9/03-12/03 xm gained 400,000 with no o&a,and as i stated before xm's market share dropped 6% and SIRIUS gained 6%.and you call that a spike for xm,,lol,in that time period and there was no spike in subscribers (a spike would be having more people sign up in that time period than at other time periods,which would indicate people were buying xm at that time for o&a which didn't happen) anyone can see this if they wish to be honest which you obviously don't.
4: well again you can try to spin it anyway you want, the fact is, they were pay, and went free, no spike in subscribers shows any thinking person why.apparently you understand very little about business. as far as FM goes free fm was desperate for a morning show,and o&a are really the only ones who had any chance of helping the ratings, but as you can see over at arbitron it didnt pan out to well.
5: again,, define spike, i don't think you are grasping that concept,again a 'spike' is a drastic increase in subscribers over other time periods, and there isn't and even in there were lol that the same time oprah was announced so o&a cant really be given credit for that.
6: apparently you care. because you lied about it on your page and said he said "have sex" you know as well as anyone else, it's just embarrasing as a fan to mention it isn't it?
7: they were suspended for not grasping what they did wrong, not simply mocking a mans haircut, and do you really think xm would suspend them if they were really of any significance to the business?
8: well that is probably true , both will stay, the question was rhetorical indeed, basically as a man in business if you HAD TO CHOOSE, between the 2 based purely on business and money, stern would clearly be the one anyone who wants to succeed at business would keep.
and you can call me fanboy all you want, i don't listen to o&a or stern nor do i post on any stern message board., except the rare occasion i go to the o&a room on pal talk.I am speaking strictly from a business standpoint, and what would have made xm's stock rise, O&A sure as hell don't do that.
All you did was reiterate your whole argument and bring no new points to the table. I don't even have to dignify this with a point by point response. You're a fanboy in a suit, and whereas the facts can be looked at one way and seen as good (like I see them) a sycophant of Howard Stern's can look at them another way and see them as bad (like you do.) Agree to disagree and beat it. This bores me. Payneos 13:36, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
No I simply clarified your flaws in logic and reason, such as you clearly have no understanding of what a 'spike' in subscriptions means, but you are correct in that one person can look at facts and see the reality, and others will look at the same facts and try to find a way to put a positive spin on it. but yes, we shall agree to disagree. it's begun to bore me too, i like a challenge.
You're not a challenge, all you do is repeat yourself like a boring little parrot, trained to say the same things over and over, praying somebody will listen to opinions not everyone shares. You're not going to change my mind, and your constant insistence on needlessly prolonging this debate makes you look like a douche monster, for lack of a better term. You don't even sign your work, which is amusing. I should go back and do it for you, but I'm lazy. Payneos 18:08, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
As a side note, subscribers as a whole is inaccurate and should bear much further scrutiny if you want to really compare the two companies in Stern vs. O&A debate, and those are numbers neither you or I can provide, including ratings for each channel (The Virus and Stern 101), subscribers who have a permanent subscription based on buying a car with an XM/Sirius radio pre-installed... you can't just go by hard numbers in the debate frame. I didn't stick up for O&A, nor did I stick up for XM. I presented the facts. You can change back the Condeleeza Rice quote, you were correct in what they said, but incorrect in estimating how much people actually cared. Which, they didn't. Because if they did, O&A would be as big as Stern to receive national attention, but since in your opinion they're not, they didn't. But they did. So which is it then? Payneos 18:15, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
No. 1 - Sorry about vandalizing your profile, I was pretty pissed (and I'm not even a *huge* fan of the band/ska/etc, though I do like OCG).
No. 2 - This band certainly does deserve a page. Type their name into myspace music and between 3 profiles there are 16,489 plays. Additionally, of you have the latest version of FireFox, start typing 'one coo...' into the Google search box at top and the first thing it comes up is 'one cool guy', then get to the 'g' in guy and it comes up with 'one cool guy lyrics'. Thats pretty significant. The article, while it may not have been excellently written and probably contained some irrelevant information, still was the best single source of information about them I've seen on the web. And furthermore, I've seen articles on much more irrelevent things on WikiPedia (for instance EMCON).
This reasons like this I don't even pay much attention to WikiPedia anymore. X570 05:06, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
Your apology is accepted, but the band's website is still not notable. Let's see what we find when we Google the whole thing...
List is as follows.
One Cool Guy Locally started band. Information provided includes songs, albums, and band members lists, as well as photos. www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/5979/ - 2k - Cached - Similar pages
One Cool Guy Website - A Shrine to a great journey One Cool Guy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
One Cool Guy, or OCG, was a third wave ska band from Union County, New Jersey founded in 1997 by a group of Union High School musicians. ... One Cool Guy – Music at Last.fm
There are 1001 One Cool Guy listeners on Last.fm. Tagged as: ska, ska-punk, favorites. People who like One Cool Guy also like MU330, The Arrogant Sons of ...
Urban Dictionary: One Cool Guy One Cool Guy. one day · one day a week criminal · One Day Charlie · one dead soldier · One Deep · One dimensional character · one dip wonder ...
Welcome to One Cool Guy Productions One Cool Guy Productions was founded in 1997 by Guy Yankovich, with the goal to work with non-profit groups such as churches, schools, YMCA groups, ...
So we have a Geocities (Self created), Wikipedia ITSELF, Last FM which states that there are 1001 listeners, making it too small to be remotely notable, Urban Dictionary which is Self-Research as well and mentions that One Cool Guy is a term for various other terms, NOT that it's a band, and Onecoolguyprocuctions, which is a CHARITY SUPPORT GROUP and nothing with the band. The band itself may have been great, and that's all well and good. But the article is not noteworthy, nor is the band. I'm sorry they broke up, but Wikipedia is NOT a place for more shrines of broken up local bands. Payneos 13:53, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
Greetings ;)
I found your user page at Special:Whatlinkshere/User:Scepia/EverQuest, and was wondering if you'd be willing to do some editing for another wiki. I started a family of wikis - called The KnowledgePit; it's intended to (eventually) be an encyclopedic reference for anything video game-related. MMORPGs get their own nodes ( EQ KnowledgePit, [ http://wow.knowledgepit.org/ WoW KnowledgePit, etc); at this time, the EQ node is the only one I've really done any work maturing. I've done a little work with the others, the node for console games more than the rest, but mostly it's the EQ one, which I've written a whole bunch of extension code for; the others are really just there as placeholders currently.
Anyway, this whole long thing is basically to ask if you'd be willing to do some editing on the EQ node, since you're a player ;) any time you'd be willing to contribute would be greatly appreciated. I threw together a little database hack so that if you sign up for one, the login info will work on all of the.m
Thanks ;)
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Hey there, I've actually been watching the debate over at the Howard Stern page. I'd be happy to try to help out, however there have been some harsh words in the past over the O&A article between MGlosenger and myself. I've also edited the Howard Stern article and obviously the O&A article as well, so I wouldn't be able to approach this as an unbiased mediator. It might be a good idea for you to ask the Mediation Cabal for assistance. By the way, you should be careful, you're in violation of WP:3RR on the Howard Stern page and could be blocked on sight by any admin. I suggest trying informal mediation first and see how that works out. See how a neutral third party views the situation. Tufflaw 13:25, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
Just because you don't think Joe Shareholder is a charictar on the O&A program, doesn't mean he isn't. I can provide audio clips from this various apperences on the O&A program. I'm re-addeding the information that you deleted. If need be we can have someone mediate the Joe Shareholder issue. Best Regards, Mayor Westfall 18:58, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
There's no need to be snippy in edit summaries. No one is claiming this is a courtroom. Tufflaw 05:02, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
- Sorry if I was too forceful, it's getting a bit frustrating around here. I think that some of the people editing that page believe I am trying to push a particular point of view when I'm merely trying to keep false information out of Wikipedia. Tufflaw 05:10, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
I prefer vigorously oppose to "whine". ;^)
Attention whore 01:31, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
You whine, pookie. Payneos 01:32, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
Stop calling me pookie. It's hard to type while aroused. Attention whore 01:37, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
But I heart you, pookie! Payneos 01:41, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
that censorship quote is no longer on the Howard stern page. what happened? Streamless 14:31, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
Stern Fans are rabid enough and too sycophantic for me to bother with rewriting the article efficently enough to get in there and not have them take it out repeatedly. Payneos 15:38, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
- how about adding it to the O&A page? Streamless 14:13, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
Please stop violating the 3 reversions rule. This is against Wikipedia policy and will get you banned. Thank you for your anticipated cooperation. Attention whore 18:12, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
I am not in violation of the Three Reverts Rule, as per the section to be read as follows as written on July 12th, 2006. Reverting potentially libellous material... All users are encouraged to remove unsourced or poorly sourced derogatory information about living persons, whether within a biography of a living person or elsewhere, including the associated talk pages. As with vandalism, the repeated addition of such material is best dealt with by blocking and page protection. The three-revert rule does not apply to users making a good-faith effort to enforce this provision, whether they are involved in editing the articles themselves or not. Payneos 18:24, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
Might I suggest doing something that you tried to do in the past?
Why not call for consensus on the Spazz/Lobster Girl issue from the other editors on the article? Let the consensus stand for seven days, and then when it's accepted, tag the talk page appropriately, negating the problem that may or may not reappear. CQJ 03:38, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
- Slow down and let the consensus take the course it's going to take. Let's try to keep this as civil as possible. By the way, if you feel that way, you'd want to make your voice known as "Keep" not "Reject" as "Reject" means Reject the current standing of the article. CQJ 20:01, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
- I'm also trying to get the article semi'd again since it would appear that we've got two or three IP users adding crap to it, but you know this :-) CQJ 17:02, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
- 'Twould appear that your friend as temporarily dissappeared from the fray on Opie and Anthony, as such, I'm going to make a further post to the Cabal case page and close it out. I'd recommend sticking to consensus and following WP:OR and WP:V if things become dicey in the future. If you need further help on it, feel free to make an informal request at my talk page. CQJ 01:52, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
As a userbox fan of FLCL, would you be willing to vote for its nomination at Wikipedia's Article Improvement Drive? If elected, it will be the subject of a week-long overhaul, in an attempt to pass in to Featured Article status! Thanks, Litefantastic 16:30, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
you had to ask deadair doug to come and save the day when you saw all the delete votes. maybe you should just give up. Wikipedia is NOT THE PLACE for articles on the Pests. Get over it.-- XMBRIAN 03:14, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
this thread says otherwise... http://oaexperience.com/forums/showthread.php?p=90115#post90115-- XMBRIAN 03:17, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
Funny you would need "help". If Wikipedia was the place for an article like this, wouldn't I be the one seeking "help"? I've yet to ask anyone to "help" me out.-- XMBRIAN 03:24, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
How many times do I have to tell you this? WIKIPEDIA IS NOT THE PLACE FOR A SELF SERVING ARTICLE! NO FIXING CAN TAKE THAT AWAY!-- XMBRIAN 03:27, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
Have you even read the people who have voted delete?-- XMBRIAN 03:30, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
Fancruft IS against Wiki's TOS.-- XMBRIAN 03:34, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
Regardless, this article has no value to Wiki.
i dont care what you think.
Deadair Doug? Does this article not have value, or do you ahve a personal problem with me? I never mocked you Scott. I hope Wiki editors can smell agendas. There was no reason to mock me. I only stated my case, and cited referances via links. Why so angry with me to name call? Dugout Doug 22:43, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
Payneos, can you contact me dugoutdoug at fullblownaids.com. Thanks Dugout Doug 01:03, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
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re: your request for Content review of Friends of Opie and Anthony
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Stop Re-adding the links to episodes and episode clips on youtube, on Fred Fredburger
Read DMCA. Youtube deleted most of the episode uploads of various shows two months ago, as well as the account of the user who uploaded it. They'll probably do it again. Watching something uploaded to the internet from a TV station without the networks permission is AGAINST THE LAW. We cannot have a link on Wikipedia that would lead to people breaking the law, although they probably wont get caught, it's still wrong. Youtube could get SUED if Cartoon Network found out that these episodes were online without their permission. Stop adding the links, because I'll keep removing them, case closed. I appreciate you contributing to the article, but these kinds of things are things you shouldn't add. DietLimeCola 19:41, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
Well that cute, wow you showed me your power and authoritiiiee I am in awe,well sadly you appear to have no interest in facts, the vast majority of the edits i made on the page were simply facts,and I threw in my opinion once or twice. Homeless charlie is a great example he did not talk about having "sex" with ms.rice he said "rape the *#$^ and punch her in the face" whilst dumb and dumber laughed, it was in very poor taste , after being reprimanded and "apologizing" they went on the air the next day laughing about it again,and ranting about how that type of idiocy should be ok on XM because its "free speech" that is what XM suspended them for, secondly it is a FACT that they have already lost several of the FM markets they were on in, it is also a FACT that their ratings in the markets they are on in are rather poor,it is also a FACTthat they started out on XM as a premium channel and had to be made free because no one was signing up (pretty basic business there, nice try at spin though), it is also fact that there is zero evidence to suggest that O&A make 1 iota of difference in XM's subscriber base either before or after starting to appear on FM again to promote the show. Go look at the charts they are online and there is no spike at all when o&a started or when the went to fm. Oh and giving away the full uncensored show free on pal-talk (a chat program) when you already have non existing ratings was just brilliant and that only draw in about 300 people. I could go on and on about the glaring misrepresentations on that page as well as the outright lies, but I suspect it won't do any good anyway, and you will probably just delete this too, and hey thats ok I understand,opie and anthony are two talentless hacks who rely on sheer stupidity to get laughs from a bunch of 16-21 year old adolescents (I have seen the chat room). So if it makes you and the few thousand other people who listen to them feel better to just lie about them to make them look better , hey go for it, it's not gonna help anyway, most people have no idea who they are and they are so mind numbingly boring that 99% of people wouldn't listen a second time, so have your fantasies, lol they are good to have. Oh and by the way lets say xm and sirius were to merge, who do you think would stay if the choice had to be made between Stern or 0&a ,, hahha, kind of an easy question isn't it?
That must have been a very fulfilling waste of your time, I'm sure. I'm glad you paid enough attention to me to come to my user page and type all that useless crap out. I'll just leave it up here so others who come by can witness the stupidity of a fanboy. Payneos 17:55, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
haahha, thats cute, stupidity huh? what I posted sir is reality,care to refute just one of those facts? jumping to ad hominem attacks does not change the reality that what I had posted is 100% true and accurate, your little wiki page trying to talk up 2 hacks on the radio is what i call stupidity,and a waste of time,its not gonna help them at all.It took me all of 5 minutes to write that out,and i don't consider laughing and trying to expose lies as a waste of my time either, so keep up the pompous attitude, and thank you for leaving it up, I am pretty sure most people are intelligent enough to verify it all as fact and realize your site is pure unmitigated BS. lol but i am done now, carry on kid. and once again, no wiki site will make o&a popular or known.
Keeping this up for the same reason. I don't even need to criticize your fanboy-dom, your work speaks for itself. All you can do is cry they're hacks. No intelligent debate, just drivel. At least I can be fair and add responsibly to the Howard Stern article. Hoo hoo. Payneos 02:20, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
I laid out a slew of facts, you cant refute 1 of them,and yet you accuse me of not having intelligent debate,yet I am the one who has posted facts, where did you get the idea that I am a stern fan? is that easier to say than addressing the facts. In fact sir, I am just an xm subscriber as well as a stock holder and have been very upset with xm since they hired these 2 hacks instead of getting stern,simply business, xm now realizes how bad of a decision that was. now as for the facts, lets review shall we, see if you can refute 1. You see I did add responsibly, you just didn't like the reality.
1: O&A have already lost a few fm markets they were on in due to poor ratings,, true or false?
2: They are not even in the top 10 in any fm market.true or false? while it is true that there was an initial upkick in ratings, they have since vanished in fact lets see,as of spring 07 Boston #14 2.6 market share,,Philadelphia #22 1.6 market share,,,New York #22 1.7 market share,,Chigaco #27 1.3 market share., now these being 4 top markets I feel that pretty well sums it up.
3: There was no spike at all in xm subscriptions when o&a were hired,in fact between 9/04 and 12/04,(o&a were hired in 10/04) xm's market share actually dropped roughly 6% while sirius gained 6% in that time period,true or false? and here is a link to prove this fact [1] you may also notice that xm's market share has been falling ever since they signed o&a, while sirius has been gaining market share. So as we can all see very clearly here, O&A had no role in people deciding which satellite service to use to say the least, keep in mind this is still 1 year prior to stern going to sirius.
4:O&A started as a premium channel on xm, and due to the above fact of no one being interested they were made free,, true or false? consult the chart.
5: using this same chart once again, (and you lied on your page claiming these numbers are not available which they are as we can all see as i posted them) there was no spike in subscribers after o&a went to free fm. true or false?
6: homeless charlie said "rape her and punch her in the face" speaking of ms rice, not "have sex" true or false?
7: they weren't suspended until the next day when they went on the air and mocked xm management seemingly having no concept that it was wrong to have a man advocate raping and beating a woman let alone the secretary of state. true or false?
SO lets just start there shall we? care to refute just 1 of those facts? and ya, i stand by my 'hacks' comment. and if you like you can also ponder this 'if xm and sirius merge and 1 morning show has to go, o&a or stern, who do you predict will be leaving the air?
Watch this, pookums.
1. False. Flipping formats happens all the time, and that's what happened to the markets they lost. These were in the works, and in no way the fault of any of the talent on the air. Hell, O&A just survived a format flip on their flagship station in NYC, whereas everyone else was kicked out, including the talented Radio Chick and Ron & Fez.
2. Point being? Give it time, Howard wasn't number one in a day either. Given the proper exposure, they'll do just as well, if not better.
3. That's odd, I DO see a spike in membership to XM radio between 9/30 and 12/31 of 04. By quarter, I see a 300,000 membership jump, with it evening out and continuing to rise over the next few quarters. So, what are you babbling aboot again? Read what you cite.
4. False. It's a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation your warped fanboy mind has put up in this context. If they stayed a premium channel, you would say nobody was listening and the show was so terrible that they might as well sucker O&A fanboys by getting the extra two dollars a month. However if they got off, like they did, them listeners must be down and they suck anyways. Neither are the case or terrestrial radio wouldn't have shown any interest in them. Failed.
5. False. Already covered in three.
6. True. Who gives a shit, I thought it was funny.
7. True. Again, who gives a shit, they mock E-Lo all the time for his bowl haircut.
8. In terms of who leaves? Neither. Unless Howard whines to have them fired. Neither of them will leave because it's a merger. The end.
Wow. That was easy. Fanboy. Stick to your Howard Stern boards where all your sycophantic friends can agree with everything you say and not debate you in the real realm of ideas and facts. Payneos 00:31, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
1: great spin.. lol do you get your news from them?
2: ratings and market share are going down, not up sorry,source, arbitron ratings
3: perhaps you dont understand what a 'spike' is,sure xm gained 300,000 from 9/04-12/04,true,but from 9/03-12/03 xm gained 400,000 with no o&a,and as i stated before xm's market share dropped 6% and SIRIUS gained 6%.and you call that a spike for xm,,lol,in that time period and there was no spike in subscribers (a spike would be having more people sign up in that time period than at other time periods,which would indicate people were buying xm at that time for o&a which didn't happen) anyone can see this if they wish to be honest which you obviously don't.
4: well again you can try to spin it anyway you want, the fact is, they were pay, and went free, no spike in subscribers shows any thinking person why.apparently you understand very little about business. as far as FM goes free fm was desperate for a morning show,and o&a are really the only ones who had any chance of helping the ratings, but as you can see over at arbitron it didnt pan out to well.
5: again,, define spike, i don't think you are grasping that concept,again a 'spike' is a drastic increase in subscribers over other time periods, and there isn't and even in there were lol that the same time oprah was announced so o&a cant really be given credit for that.
6: apparently you care. because you lied about it on your page and said he said "have sex" you know as well as anyone else, it's just embarrasing as a fan to mention it isn't it?
7: they were suspended for not grasping what they did wrong, not simply mocking a mans haircut, and do you really think xm would suspend them if they were really of any significance to the business?
8: well that is probably true , both will stay, the question was rhetorical indeed, basically as a man in business if you HAD TO CHOOSE, between the 2 based purely on business and money, stern would clearly be the one anyone who wants to succeed at business would keep.
and you can call me fanboy all you want, i don't listen to o&a or stern nor do i post on any stern message board., except the rare occasion i go to the o&a room on pal talk.I am speaking strictly from a business standpoint, and what would have made xm's stock rise, O&A sure as hell don't do that.
All you did was reiterate your whole argument and bring no new points to the table. I don't even have to dignify this with a point by point response. You're a fanboy in a suit, and whereas the facts can be looked at one way and seen as good (like I see them) a sycophant of Howard Stern's can look at them another way and see them as bad (like you do.) Agree to disagree and beat it. This bores me. Payneos 13:36, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
No I simply clarified your flaws in logic and reason, such as you clearly have no understanding of what a 'spike' in subscriptions means, but you are correct in that one person can look at facts and see the reality, and others will look at the same facts and try to find a way to put a positive spin on it. but yes, we shall agree to disagree. it's begun to bore me too, i like a challenge.
You're not a challenge, all you do is repeat yourself like a boring little parrot, trained to say the same things over and over, praying somebody will listen to opinions not everyone shares. You're not going to change my mind, and your constant insistence on needlessly prolonging this debate makes you look like a douche monster, for lack of a better term. You don't even sign your work, which is amusing. I should go back and do it for you, but I'm lazy. Payneos 18:08, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
As a side note, subscribers as a whole is inaccurate and should bear much further scrutiny if you want to really compare the two companies in Stern vs. O&A debate, and those are numbers neither you or I can provide, including ratings for each channel (The Virus and Stern 101), subscribers who have a permanent subscription based on buying a car with an XM/Sirius radio pre-installed... you can't just go by hard numbers in the debate frame. I didn't stick up for O&A, nor did I stick up for XM. I presented the facts. You can change back the Condeleeza Rice quote, you were correct in what they said, but incorrect in estimating how much people actually cared. Which, they didn't. Because if they did, O&A would be as big as Stern to receive national attention, but since in your opinion they're not, they didn't. But they did. So which is it then? Payneos 18:15, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
No. 1 - Sorry about vandalizing your profile, I was pretty pissed (and I'm not even a *huge* fan of the band/ska/etc, though I do like OCG).
No. 2 - This band certainly does deserve a page. Type their name into myspace music and between 3 profiles there are 16,489 plays. Additionally, of you have the latest version of FireFox, start typing 'one coo...' into the Google search box at top and the first thing it comes up is 'one cool guy', then get to the 'g' in guy and it comes up with 'one cool guy lyrics'. Thats pretty significant. The article, while it may not have been excellently written and probably contained some irrelevant information, still was the best single source of information about them I've seen on the web. And furthermore, I've seen articles on much more irrelevent things on WikiPedia (for instance EMCON).
This reasons like this I don't even pay much attention to WikiPedia anymore. X570 05:06, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
Your apology is accepted, but the band's website is still not notable. Let's see what we find when we Google the whole thing...
List is as follows.
One Cool Guy Locally started band. Information provided includes songs, albums, and band members lists, as well as photos. www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/5979/ - 2k - Cached - Similar pages
One Cool Guy Website - A Shrine to a great journey One Cool Guy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
One Cool Guy, or OCG, was a third wave ska band from Union County, New Jersey founded in 1997 by a group of Union High School musicians. ... One Cool Guy – Music at Last.fm
There are 1001 One Cool Guy listeners on Last.fm. Tagged as: ska, ska-punk, favorites. People who like One Cool Guy also like MU330, The Arrogant Sons of ...
Urban Dictionary: One Cool Guy One Cool Guy. one day · one day a week criminal · One Day Charlie · one dead soldier · One Deep · One dimensional character · one dip wonder ...
Welcome to One Cool Guy Productions One Cool Guy Productions was founded in 1997 by Guy Yankovich, with the goal to work with non-profit groups such as churches, schools, YMCA groups, ...
So we have a Geocities (Self created), Wikipedia ITSELF, Last FM which states that there are 1001 listeners, making it too small to be remotely notable, Urban Dictionary which is Self-Research as well and mentions that One Cool Guy is a term for various other terms, NOT that it's a band, and Onecoolguyprocuctions, which is a CHARITY SUPPORT GROUP and nothing with the band. The band itself may have been great, and that's all well and good. But the article is not noteworthy, nor is the band. I'm sorry they broke up, but Wikipedia is NOT a place for more shrines of broken up local bands. Payneos 13:53, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
Greetings ;)
I found your user page at Special:Whatlinkshere/User:Scepia/EverQuest, and was wondering if you'd be willing to do some editing for another wiki. I started a family of wikis - called The KnowledgePit; it's intended to (eventually) be an encyclopedic reference for anything video game-related. MMORPGs get their own nodes ( EQ KnowledgePit, [ http://wow.knowledgepit.org/ WoW KnowledgePit, etc); at this time, the EQ node is the only one I've really done any work maturing. I've done a little work with the others, the node for console games more than the rest, but mostly it's the EQ one, which I've written a whole bunch of extension code for; the others are really just there as placeholders currently.
Anyway, this whole long thing is basically to ask if you'd be willing to do some editing on the EQ node, since you're a player ;) any time you'd be willing to contribute would be greatly appreciated. I threw together a little database hack so that if you sign up for one, the login info will work on all of the.m
Thanks ;)
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